April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

[cleardirect]

A video is worth a lot more than that letter. If and when Parker is a witness then he'll be confronted with both and I know he'll stick with the video.

According to all the court filings and transcripts you would be wrong. What holds more weight court filings or a propaganda meeting?

Given a choice between using a final and binding arbitrated list or having to negotiate an entirely new seniority list with expensive and restrictive C&R's and liability he will go with expensive?

 

[snapthis]

Yes. We know.

We are here to help.

While you are in Phoenix, here's a great place to drown your sorrows:

http://www.alicecooperstown.com/

Enjoy your layover at the Sandra Day O'Connor Courthouse.

 

[EastUS1]

“The tyranny of the minority is infinitely more odious and intolerable and more to be feared than that of the majority.”
William McKinley (1843-1901)
U.S. Congressman and 25th President of the United States

"The tyranny of the minority is infinitely more odious..."

Did you even read this before posting it? 🙂 While you're tossing about quoted material you clearly don't understand; here's one you might wish to consider: "Stupid is as stupid does." Forrest Gump 😉

 

[EastUS1]

What holds more weight court filings or a propaganda meeting?

I'd say actual court rulings trump filings, as well as your nonsensical and incessant west/AOL propganda. Is there anything new in the way of rulings we should be concerned with? No? Very well then. Carry on. 🙂

 

[end_of_alpa]

According to all the court filings and transcripts you would be wrong. What holds more weight court filings or a propaganda meeting?

Given a choice between using a final and binding arbitrated list or having to negotiate an entirely new seniority list with expensive and restrictive C&R's and liability he will go with expensive?

rules of evidence are findings of fact and testimony is part of that. Read the order. What are your witnesses? My guess is USAPA calls Parker for the injunction hearing. Any takers? Also, I would call both Calaveri and Holmes from the NAC. Two west pilots that will testify to neutrality and the meaning thereof. SYIC.

 

[Metroyet]

rules of evidence are findings of fact and testimony is part of that. Read the order. What are your witnesses? My guess is USAPA calls Parker for the injunction hearing. Any takers? Also, I would call both Calaveri and Holmes from the NAC. Two west pilots that will testify to neutrality and the meaning thereof. SYIC.

You want to waste the court time trying to convince silver that "the West" and " The East " are actually two separate parties to the MOU that the MOU specifically FAILED to name as parties to it? Nope USAPA pilots only. Of course the MOU is "neutral" to the nic. It's like being " neutral" as to what the pay rates were in 2009. It's Irrelevant. The TA However is far from neutral, and still in full effect. USAPA failed to get the company to agree to amend the seniority section so that is still in full force.

You guys are so blinded with rage at your self inflicted wounds you seem to think everybody else is too stupid to see how obviously twisted and contorted your attempt at logic is. YOU HAVE NO LUP, NO CASE, AND NO HOPE. The only change since Addingtom 1 is the JOINT RATIFICATION of the CCBA.

Just remember, you did this to yourselves. There is no one else to blame. Ever.

 

[Metroyet]

"But what I think is going to work pretty well is a structure that says, “yes, date of hire, but, one, no one can come off furlough and replace an active employee” and “furthermore, no one can move into a base unless there is a vacancy. They can only see themselves displaced because there was an opening somewhere. I wish we could get there and see what's its like because I just don't think it's going to be as bad as everybody thinks.” Doug Parker CEO, US Airways company webcast for Pilots dated 7/20/06.

Gee. Another irrelevant opinion. Thanks for digging that up. Think Parker's off the cuff opinion will trump due process, final and binding arbitration, and the fact that we wrote a 600k check to pay for that arbitration...then ACCEPTED the arbitration in writing?

I wonder which one the Judge would assign more weight? Tell you what, head on down to the piggly wiggly and ask the kid stocking the shelves what his opinion on sli is...it's the same thing, and just as effective testimony.

 

[prechilill]

"The tyranny of the minority is infinitely more odious..."

Did you even read this before posting it? 🙂 While you're tossing about quoted material you clearly don't understand; here's one you might wish to consider: "Stupid is as stupid does." Forrest Gump 😉

Fair and balanced, unlike you cracker. 😉

 

[prechilill]

I'd say actual court rulings trump filings, as well as your nonsensical and incessant west/AOL propganda. Is there anything new in the way of rulings we should be concerned with? No? Very well then. Carry on. 🙂

No cracker, everything is fine. You've won this battle, that's why usAPA couldn't get a contract in five years. Silver states usAPA is on dangerous ground, May 10th approaches. Happy Birthday, your abortion is five.

 

[end_of_alpa]

You want to waste the court time trying to convince silver that "the West" and " The East " are actually two separate parties to the MOU that the MOU specifically FAILED to name as parties to it? Nope USAPA pilots only. Of course the MOU is "neutral" to the nic. It's like being " neutral" as to what the pay rates were in 2009. It's Irrelevant. The TA However is far from neutral, and still in full effect. USAPA failed to get the company to agree to amend the seniority section so that is still in full force.

You guys are so blinded with rage at your self inflicted wounds you seem to think everybody else is too stupid to see how obviously twisted and contorted your attempt at logic is. YOU HAVE NO LUP, NO CASE, AND NO HOPE. The only change since Addingtom 1 is the JOINT RATIFICATION of the CCBA.

Just remember, you did this to yourselves. There is no one else to blame. Ever.

SYIC.

 

[prechilill]

SYIC.

Yep! May 10, 2013.
RIPE

The end is near for the usAPA self hostage taking.

A330 by 2015 🙂

 

[Res Judicata]

SYIC.

You will. All of us.

 

[prechilill]

You want to waste the court time trying to convince silver that "the West" and " The East " are actually two separate parties to the MOU that the MOU specifically FAILED to name as parties to it? Nope USAPA pilots only. Of course the MOU is "neutral" to the nic. It's like being " neutral" as to what the pay rates were in 2009. It's Irrelevant. The TA However is far from neutral, and still in full effect. USAPA failed to get the company to agree to amend the seniority section so that is still in full force.

You guys are so blinded with rage at your self inflicted wounds you seem to think everybody else is too stupid to see how obviously twisted and contorted your attempt at logic is. YOU HAVE NO LUP, NO CASE, AND NO HOPE. The only change since Addingtom 1 is the JOINT RATIFICATION of the CCBA.

Just remember, you did this to yourselves. There is no one else to blame. Ever.

Yep.

May 10, 2013

RIPE

A330 in 2015

 

[CaptChill]

Yep.

May 10, 2013

RIPE

A330 in 2015

RIPE is right.... stinking to high heavens! YUCK!

 

[nevergiveup]

You want to waste the court time trying to convince silver that "the West" and " The East " are actually two separate parties to the MOU that the MOU specifically FAILED to name as parties to it? Nope USAPA pilots only. Of course the MOU is "neutral" to the nic. It's like being " neutral" as to what the pay rates were in 2009. It's Irrelevant. The TA However is far from neutral, and still in full effect. USAPA failed to get the company to agree to amend the seniority section so that is still in full force.

You guys are so blinded with rage at your self inflicted wounds you seem to think everybody else is too stupid to see how obviously twisted and contorted your attempt at logic is. YOU HAVE NO LUP, NO CASE, AND NO HOPE. The only change since Addingtom 1 is the JOINT RATIFICATION of the CCBA.

Just remember, you did this to yourselves. There is no one else to blame. Ever.

Read the whole MOU. You will find a distinction between east and west.(in addition to lists currently in effect)