April/May 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Phoenix]

USAPA has never shown any degree of "reasonableness" and it is not up to a group of east pilots to tell me what my seniority is worth.

Paraphrasing Judge Silver..."A neutral arbitrator's decision is powerfull evidence of a fair award".

While Judge Silver may have offered her opinion regarding a single point within a wide range of reasonableness, she did not narrow USAPA's right to negotiate within the wide range of reasonableness, and neither did the contingent MOU.

 

[Phoenix]

98%. Lol!!

 

[prechilill]

While Judge Silver may have offered her opinion regarding a single point within a wide range of reasonableness, she did not narrow USAPA's right to negotiate within the wide range of reasonableness, and neither did the contingent MOU.

Who do you plan on negotiating a seniority deal with Scott?

 

[Phoenix]

Who are you plan on negotiating a seniority deal with Scott?

Still obsessing with your affections of Scott and trying to appear intelligent at the same time. Is Scott a negotiator? No need to act an idiot on my account. 🙂.

 

[Walmartgreeter]

Just back from a too short (but long deserved for my family) vacation. I have not had a chance to read all the filings, but did take a look at the Company's. Indeed, a piece of work. Actually makes them out to be hypocrites..they claim ripeness now, but do not claim it with the Ninth, and most importantly, with their actions. Why have they not published a seniority list? I will tell you why, because Silver already told them there was no list to publish, and that USAPA was free to negotiate one.

Nothing has changed in regard to legal ripeness, and the ability of USAPA to negotiate in any transition scenario, MOU or LOA 96. Even if I fail in ALL my arguments, there is no POR, thus can be no legal proceedings until that point, no matter what anybody thinks the MOU said or meant.

And can someone please, please tell me how a ruling of ripeness makes the seniority list at US Airways the NIC?

And could someone please tell Tanya Harding (Chill) she is not going to get a 330 bid as C/O in any base with the NIC. She is junior to me even on that award. I won't see that bid for 3 or more years with the NIC, and she will follow me. (with maybe more years in the seat, since she is such a lovely, though plump, spring chicken.)

Greeter

 

[Pi brat]

I saw the jumping for joy by prechill and various other posters over the company's lasting filing. I took a look at it tonight and tried to read it with as open mind as possible.

It's clear that the company, AA and it's creditors want this thing to be ripe and settled. I'll be honest, I want it to be too. But, it seems that for many ripe=Nic cemented. Maybe, but did anything else in the company's filing stand out to west guys? Here are a few that did to me, admittedly biased against the Nic.

“In any event, US Airways will not be presenting or advocating
for the use of the Nicolau Award or any other seniority list
in the US Airways/American seniority-integration process.
The MOU expressly provides that “US Airways . . .shall remain
Neutral regarding the order in which pilots are placed on the integrated seniority list.””

“Accordingly, enjoining USAirways “from integrating
pilot seniority without using the Nicolau Award list to
define the relative seniority of US Airways pilots” would be an idle gesture
and an unwarranted use of this Court’s equity power.”

“Plaintiffs may be right or they may be wrong”

Did any west pilot notice that "ripeness" was a small part of USAPA's filing?

Briar patch

 

[prechilill]

Just back from a too short (but long deserved for my family) vacation. I have not had a chance to read all the filings, but did take a look at the Company's. Indeed, a piece of work. Actually makes them out to be hypocrites..they claim ripeness now, but do not claim it with the Ninth,
Greeter

Yep, you got it buddy! You were sold down the river! LOL
I'm going to peruse your postings from around February 8th and see how your opinions about ripeness matches the company's opinion... Wonder what we'll find... LOL

Sucker

 

[prechilill]

RIPE

513

See ya all in court!

 

[Pi brat]

Yep, you got it buddy! You were sold down the river! LOL
I'm going to peruse your postings from around February 8th and see how your opinions about ripeness matches the company's opinion... Wonder what we'll find... LOL

Sucker

Hey Chuckles,

Ever read this?


XII.

Effective Date, Modification, Status
of Letter of Agreement, and Duration
This Letter of Agreement:

A.

Will take effect on the date of execution set forth below;
B.

May be modified by written agreement of
the Association and the Airline Parties
collectively;

You're going to love the 190. I hear they are headed your way.

 

[prechilill]

Hey Chuckles,

Ever read this?


XII.

Effective Date, Modification, Status
of Letter of Agreement, and Duration
This Letter of Agreement:

A.

Will take effect on the date of execution set forth below;
B.

May be modified by written agreement of
the Association and the Airline Parties
collectively;

You're going to love the 190. I hear they are headed your way.

When you post anything relevant to current events, it will be a first.

513

RIPE RIPE RIPE

Dangerous grounds indeed!

 

[Pi brat]

When you post anything relevant to current events, it will be a first.

513

RIPE RIPE RIPE

Dangerous grounds indeed!

The Transition Agreement isn't relevant to your cause? Hmm.

Watch your knees on crosswind landings when the captain is flying.........

 

[prechilill]

The Transition Agreement isn't relevant to your cause? Hmm.

Watch your knees on crosswind landings when the captain is flying.........

No, your post is completely irrelevant- and pointless.

Go to college and learn how to read- a real college.

 

[Pi brat]

No, your post is completely irrelevant- and pointless.

Go to college and learn how to read- a real college.

"Please, please don't throw me in that briar patch!"

 

[prechilill]

"Please, please don't throw me in that briar patch!"

No worries, you've got it made with your fellow 1999 AWA pilots next to you on the seniority list.

 

[prechilill]

Aw geez-,what happened to Greeter? And where the hell is SCOTTSdale Phoenix???

Tough day I guess... Lol