August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[Phoenix]

Re your big blue signature

If it were true, you wouldn't have to proclaim it, it would be self-evident

Kind of like the moral majority, the christian right, etal

Agreed, if ya have to proclaim it... Like "binding arbitration"

Careful there...

 

[Claxon]

USAPA - Lowest pay to the last day, because we deserve it and are entitled. 1959 days (and counting) of the lowest industry wage and now the highest dues collection. You just can't make this stuff up folks.

america west airline pilots, founded by drug runners and scabs, are the lowest paid from 1983 to date..

america west pilots, 20 years @ 365 days = 7300 days as bottom feeders in wages and benefits. Your record is safe, do not worry.

http://web.mit.edu/a...T PERSONNEL.htm

 

[snapthis]

america west airline pilots, founded by drug runners and scabs, are the lowest paid from 1983 to date..

america west pilots, 20 years @ 365 days = 7300 days as bottom feeders in wages and benefits. Your record is safe, do not worry.

http://web.mit.edu/a...T PERSONNEL.htm

That's some funny stuff you come up with everyday.

Did you notice the Delta pilots are not that impressed with the US "Airways" Pilots Association?

"Let’s be clear, DPA’s efforts are a blueprint of the USAPA disaster and we cannot afford to repeat the US Airways fiasco here."

Airline pilots agree, they want nothing to do with an Airway union or better yet, Onion.

Either way, USAPA stinks and makes your eyes water.

 

[cactusboy53]

Well moron, get a tan, if you add SS and PBGC, no NIC no you are not correct! The ATTRITION train makes you a liar!

I was in CLT the other day, and ran into my buddy Mut at McCoy's (I'm the guy leaning on the bar, Mut is the the dude that's flapping his gums - WHAT A SHOCK! - as he enters through the swinging doors). As luck would have it, it was captured on video.......

 

[Phoenix]

MUTwhich meant mother in the ancient Egyptian language,[1] was an ancient Egyptian mother goddess with multiple aspects that changed over the thousands of years of the culture.




MUTT
A mutt is a mongrel (mixed-breed dog).

Mutt may also refer to:

EditNickname or codename
Mutt Carey (1886–1948), New Orleans jazz trumpeter
Emanuel J. "Mutt" Evans (1907-1997), American businessman and first Jewish mayor of Durham, North Carolina
H. M. Fowler (born 1918), American politician
Robert John "Mutt" Lange (born 1948), music producer
Joseph Summers (1904-1954), chief test pilot at Vickers-Armstrongs and Supermarine
Mutt Williams (baseball) (1892-1962), Major League Baseball pitcher
Mutt Wilson (1896-1962), Major League Baseball pitcher
Mutt and Jeff (spies), codename of Allied double agent Helge Moe during World War II

 

[snapthis]

I was in CLT the other day, and ran into my buddy Mut at McCoy's (I'm the guy leaning on the bar, Mut is the the dude that's flapping his gums - WHAT A SHOCK! - as he enters through the swinging doors). As luck would have it, it was captured on video.......

Which one?

MUTATIS

or

MUTANDIS

I hear they are both nuts and drink the same Kool-Aide as Clax.

 

[Pi brat]

Did you notice the Delta pilots are not that impressed with the US "Airways" Pilots Association?

I guess you didn't notice that it was DL ALPA pilots that are not impressed with USAPA.

 

[snapthis]

I guess you didn't notice that it was DL ALPA pilots that are not impressed with USAPA.

Uh, which union represents Delta pilots?

 

[snapthis]

I can see the look on your face when you figure it out.

http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/85/gomer_shazam.jpg

 

[Pi brat]

Uh, which union represents Delta pilots?

Uh, Gomer, did you see where I put DL ALPA?

Did every east and west pilot support ALPA when it was our CBA? No. ALPA would sell your child into bondage to keep DL. 99.9999% of DL pilots may see USAPA as a disaster, but comparing it to what DPA would be is a joke. Almost as big of a joke as you using it to support your POV. Almost.

You guys sure are big on cartoons and youTube.

 

[snapthis]

Uh, Gomer, did you see where I put DL ALPA?

Did every east and west pilot support ALPA when it was our CBA? No. ALPA would sell your child into bondage to keep DL. 99.9999% of DL pilots may see USAPA as a disaster, but comparing it to what DPA would be is a joke. Almost as big of a joke as you using it to support your POV. Almost.

You guys sure are big on cartoons and youTube.

Uh, yea, you said DL ALPA.

Here's the letter in it's entirety. Did Captain Roberts address the letter to:

A) DL ALPA Pilot?

or

B)Fellow Delta Pilots?

August 29, 2013
Fellow Delta Pilots,
It's been five years since the historic merger between Delta and Northwest. The pilots of these two great airlines were integral to its success; helping to make Delta Air Lines the profitable and competitive company it is today. It is now time for our contributions to pay off when our now-successful company negotiates our next contract. In 2012, we negotiated a contract that is industry leading in many ways, and we completed it well ahead of the amendable date, with sizable gains that not only benefit our pilot group, but that have raised the bar for other pilot groups throughout the industry. We can exchange opening positions in just 18 months and, accordingly, your MEC is already gearing up for Contract 2015. In our lounge visits, PUB events and polls we have heard what your number one contractual desire is: pay. To be clear, the pilots of Delta want more pay, increased retirement contributions and compensation enhancements across the board. We intend to achieve the industry leading contract we deserve. However, some pilots within our ranks want to destroy our strength in numbers. This scourge known as the Delta Pilots Association (DPA) is trying to undermine ALPA’s achievements and our future progress. More than three years after its predicted imminent victory, the DPA continues to make unfulfilled promises.
Since January, we have addressed many of the DPA’s issues in Vectors and our True Headings communications. Your representatives have been in the lounges and we have increased the Pilot Unity Briefings allowing more one-on-one interactions with your reps and ALPA volunteers. The goal has been to receive your input and present you with information and facts rather than the half-truths, innuendo and outright lies being used by some within the DPA organization. This misleading information has become the foundation of the DPA’s efforts. It is time to set the record straight. At our most recent MEC meeting, all 29 elected representatives agreed to address this threat to our professional future more pointedly.
The idea of a runaway union like the DPA is not new. The most recent historical example illustrates just how ineffective a group like this can be. In 2008, several US Airways pilots formed a similar organization (USAPA), making virtually identical promises, using the same law firm as the DPA. Five years later, the only things USAPA has delivered are false hope and broken promises. The pilots don’t have a new contract. There is no change to the seniority system. The “professionals” who promised all these changes have been fired and they now work for the DPA.
Let’s be clear, DPA’s efforts are a blueprint of the USAPA disaster and we cannot afford to repeat the US Airways fiasco here.
The Delta pilots set the example for how to successfully handle an airline merger. We achieved a contract with meaningful gains across the board. Together, we will now raise the industry bar for building strength and unity within our ranks. Your Delta MEC will no longer tolerate the DPA’s attempt to dismantle our organization. We will not be led to inevitable frustration and disaster—not on our watch. Today, I'm asking each and every one of you, the pilots who have helped make Delta Air Lines the most profitable and successful U.S. airline, to show your support for the unmatched resources and services that the Delta MEC provides with the backing of our strong, international union. You will soon receive this same letter in the mail with an ALPA lanyard and years-of-service pin. It marks the beginning of a campaign your MEC will lead against those pilots within our ranks who are spreading misinformation to distract you from the progress our pilots have made with the support of our union: the Air Line Pilots Association, Int’l. As a line pilot and now as your MEC chairman, I have always spoken out when I believed
improvements or changes were needed in our union. You should do the same. Change is built into the structure and process within ALPA. The ALPA of today is much different than when I was first hired. Based on my experience, I am confident ALPA will continue to evolve in order to make the most of the opportunities and successfully meet the threats and challenges thatlie ahead. I am asking you to stay informed and get engaged. Read the materials you will receive throughout the campaign and ask your representatives, along with the 600 other Delta pilot volunteers, the tough questions you want your union to answer.

We will emerge from this challenge a stronger, more unified pilot group ready to achieve the next industry-leading contract in 2015 with the resources and expertise that pilots can only find within the Delta Master Executive Council.

Fraternally,
Captain Kingsley Roberts
Delta MEC Chairman

 

[cactusboy53]

MUTwhich meant mother in the ancient Egyptian language,[1] was an ancient Egyptian mother goddess with multiple aspects that changed over the thousands of years of the culture.




MUTT
A mutt is a mongrel (mixed-breed dog).

Mutt may also refer to:

EditNickname or codename
Mutt Carey (1886–1948), New Orleans jazz trumpeter
Emanuel J. "Mutt" Evans (1907-1997), American businessman and first Jewish mayor of Durham, North Carolina
H. M. Fowler (born 1918), American politician
Robert John "Mutt" Lange (born 1948), music producer
Joseph Summers (1904-1954), chief test pilot at Vickers-Armstrongs and Supermarine
Mutt Williams (baseball) (1892-1962), Major League Baseball pitcher
Mutt Wilson (1896-1962), Major League Baseball pitcher
Mutt and Jeff (spies), codename of Allied double agent Helge Moe during World War II

You forgot St. Mutter Focker, the patron saint for lost causes like the DOH paper chase!

 

[snapthis]

You forgot St. Mutter Focker, the patron saint for lost causes like the DOH paper chase!

Yea, we got that GomerPi and St Mutter guy
who will look like this after it's all said and done.

DOHDOA.

http://sayanythingblog.com/files/2013/01/Homer-Simpson-wingnuts-doh.gif

 

[snapthis]

You guys sure are big on cartoons and youTube.

So, you don't like cartoons?

How about testing your intelligence.

http://www.maniacworld.com/the-idiot-test.htm

BTW, the answer to my previous question is (B)Fellow Delta Pilots.

Let's see if you can do better this time.

 

[fifidriver]

You forgot St. Mutter Focker, the patron saint for lost causes like the DOH paper chase!

see also - Muttering Incoherently - a rambling, typically drawled diatribe, often observed in elderly aviators