August 2013 Pilot Discussion

[traderjake]

But you do have to stop flirting with me. I'm starting to blush. :wub:

I'm doubting the sincerity of your grousing.

 

[Beancounter]

working with the west and management

Oh no, not that!

You're joking right? Do you really want to spend the rest of your career siting in the corner, sulking, on a bankruptcy contract?

Bean

 

[Metroyet]

Oh no, not that!

You're joking right? Do you really want to spend the rest of your career siting in the corner, sulking, on a bankruptcy contract?

Bean

Yes. Actually he does. I think on some level, most of these guys enjoy the misery. They'd rather be "right" about something for once than improve their atrocious careers on any level, in any way. IOW, they're bat #### crazy.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Yes. Actually he does. I think on some level, most of these guys enjoy the misery. They'd rather be "right" about something for once than improve their atrocious careers on any level, in any way. IOW, they're bat #### crazy.

What is even a different level is your actual belief our careers were atrocious, now that is funny!MM!If flying a widebody to great destinations is atrocious, we will take it!

 

[traderjake]

If flying a widebody to great destinations is atrocious, we will take it!

Lowest paid WB pilots over the North Atlantic, you must be very proud.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Lowest paid WB pilots over the North Atlantic, you must be very proud.

No actually DUI DOUG is proud of that fact, he is even more proud the limp D#$%$ pilots like yourself make it happen, but nonetheless, my life is great! Hey this sideshow is fun to watch!

 

[Hate2fly]

Reality check........this outfit is run by team Tempe!
AWA has never paid a decent wage and absent this merger never will. This pilot group will never fight. They always want someone else to fight for them. Jerry Glass will continue to kick ass for Tempe.

Hate

 

[Reed Richards]

You are starting to get the point, have your read Hummel's deposition. I want to see more west videos posted form Claxon they are great. Yes, lets get Mckee and Crimi back in by the way did you tyank them for getting your retro pay that Gary did not fight for, and yes we all know we lost the 3% form Kasher.

Let me get this straight, we are in the seniority battle of all times and you are coming on here bluffing you have "read" a deposition from your own side, and imply that it somehow is "bad?" Nice. Sounds like a desperate need to know something, so you throw out some bait and hope someone refutes your claims. Read this next sentence very carefully and ponder the possibilities: The retrospective pay you will now never get had nothing to do with the CLT reps, other than being a useful tool. The MOU passed by over 75%. It was not forced on any group or rep. A single CLT rep could have tanked it, just one rep. And had the West Class all voted against it, it would have failed. All I can figure is you have some new bravado with your allies in CLT, the 38% that even bother to vote. RR

 

[Reed Richards]

It doesn't. The MOU will stand exactly as it is we ratified it: Full of holes. And that's not even counting the portions that the company will simply ignore and tell us to grieve.

The Swiss Cheese MOU is dead. You will never see those pay rates now. Never. What do you have left , 3 or 4 years at most? In that light I have to ask an academic question: Would you have preferred the MOU pay rates of 2013, with all future raises being fought in arbitration? Or would you prefer the pay rates of LOA 93, with all raises being fought in arbitration? (and already lost) For me, having accepted the merger as dead, I am even starting to like the New AMR paint job. I cannot believe I was so petty to ever give it mention, based on 1.6B our group saw go out the door after the DOJ announcement. All the naysayers will have the next two or more years to ponder their situation and throw the darts at those who stepped up politically and got the deal. The dead deal. RR

 

[Claxon]

Lowest paid WB pilots over the North Atlantic, you must be very proud.

Your daddy, the Piedmont pilot, got you the job at Us Airways. You went ahead of every applicant and interviewee before you.

You must be so proud! Your wisdom through your posts are so appreciated by those west pilots that want to cut in line also.

 

[Claxon]

Yes. Actually he does. I think on some level, most of these guys enjoy the misery. They'd rather be "right" about something for once than improve their atrocious careers on any level, in any way. IOW, they're bat #### crazy.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_West_Airlines_Flight_556

 

[Portly Dorman]

Reality check........this outfit is run by team Tempe!
AWA has never paid a decent wage and absent this merger never will. This pilot group will never fight. They always want someone else to fight for them. Jerry Glass will continue to kick ass for Tempe.

Hate

Given the leadership mentality @ WWHQ the east is going to be the lowest paid pilots longer than AWA ever was. WOOT WOOT!!!!

 

[Metroyet]

Let me get this straight, we are in the seniority battle of all times and you are coming on here bluffing you have "read" a deposition from your own side, and imply that it somehow is "bad?" Nice. Sounds like a desperate need to know something, so you throw out some bait and hope someone refutes your claims. Read this next sentence very carefully and ponder the possibilities: The retrospective pay you will now never get had nothing to do with the CLT reps, other than being a useful tool. The MOU passed by over 75%. It was not forced on any group or rep. A single CLT rep could have tanked it, just one rep. And had the West Class all voted against it, it would have failed. All I can figure is you have some new bravado with your allies in CLT, the 38% that even bother to vote. RR

He's right about the deposition. Hummel isn't the worst one for your side either.. That's what happens when stupid people are in charge. Although what the fake union is attempting is so blatantly egregious I doubt anyone could hide it.

 

[Claxon]

america west pilot production, using victims of historical atrocities to further their cause.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnWxyc4OxaQ

 

[Portly Dorman]

http://en.wikipedia....ines_Flight_556

http://www.airlinefo.../page__st__2616

http://www.aero-news...75-7bac101ad21d