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AAmech said:
At last check, a major layoff is happening this month at the Class 2 stations. I am also hearing 10 hit the street in Chicago 2 nights ago. Where is your language? Twa'ers hit the street in droves, where is your language? The dues collection agency(twu) had reported to the NMB that 21,000 people are in M&R, now less than 14,000 remain. Where is your language?
You just go along and continue your worship of management as thousands have hit the street. But what do you care, you're afraid to take a stand anyway because you don't want to upset your management friends.
Ok lets just say your correct and there is no language. Why then are there ANY class 2 stations still open? Why are we still doing ANY "B" checks? Why is MCI, TUL and AFW still doing heavy checks? The generocity of management I suppose?
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MCI has nothing scheduled ,past 06/05 ,for the hangars. AAMech, you have any news we haven't been keen on yet? The last I heard of 3rd party work was assigned to TUL. Tell me some good news.
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AAmech said:
That is absolutely CORRECT. You finally get it!!!!
There is NO LANGUAGE so therefore the butt kissing company union is the only thing saving those items listed.
The question is rather this is satisfactory union representation for two hours pay per month or not?
seed said:
That is correct and the twu has negotiated 2 contracts since the TWA merger and still has not secured any job security for TWA'ers. Outside of the seniority ruling, TWA do not get the $12,500 or much of a chance to bump. I understand the bitterness on the seniority issue, but Seed, can you explain why there was never an uproar from TWA'ers over the leaving you guys twice off the Job Security clause?
And this is a novel idea by your friends in management.....$131 round trip to HNL, what a concept......AAmech said:
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AAmech said:
Letter to Ralph Richardi and Robert Reding - Tuesday, January 11, 2005 at 10:13
January 10, 2005
Mr. Ralph Richardi
Sr. V.P. Customer Service
American Airlines, Inc.
4333 Amon Carter Blvd. MD 5616
Fort Worth, TX 76155
Mr. Robert Reding
Sr. V.P. Technical Operations
American Airlines, Inc.
4333 Amon Carter Blvd. MD 5603
Fort Worth, TX 76155
Gentlemen:
Having already experienced the dramatic headcount reductions in MCIE and STL, and with the impact of the projected 2005 budget pending, it is fitting that you recognize the following:
The TWU is painfully aware of the substantial challenges that lay ahead. The financial position of the company is precarious at best given the fragile, volatile, and unpredictable environment (e.g Delta fare reduction, Southwest Airlines code share with ATA, etc). We are concerned that the reductions incurred by the TWU membership are substantial and in our view, may jeopardize the dependability, performance, and service of the airline. Further, it appears these decisions rely upon broad assumptions replete with increased operational risk.
Article 28(B) of our agreement provides in part that, “the Company will have sole jurisdiction of the management and operations of its business.†Post restructure, the Company is now entrusted with the management and operation of “our†business. The Company has a moral, ethical, and fiscal responsibility to not mismanage the sacrifices made by so many.
In closing, please note that the TWU anticipates safety and security to remain a cornerstone of everything we do and that compromising is simply not an option. Lastly, we expect these reductions will not produce violations of our agreement as a byproduct of implementation.
Sincerely,
John M. Conley
AA System Coordinator
International Representative
Robert Gless
International Representative
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C: J. Little
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This also a novel use of the article.
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Actually there has been an uproar since we were stapled, and the Job Security clause isn't worth the paper it was written on, ask the boys with less than 9/98 seniority that are on the street.
What gets me is that we still are charged the full dues when we do not operate under the same contract, spleen that one to me. This crap of having "pajama parties" is beyond my interpretation of a union activity. And do not misrepresent this as pro-AMFA, they are getting just as bad. Unionism is dead. Now we have "Joint Leadership". What ever happened to management managing, and the labor side doing the labor. If we play management with the company, who do you think the upper management will lay fault to when they explain defaults to the stockholders.
Plain and simple, our job is to turn wrenches, and produce a good product in a timely manner, NOT TO ASSIST MANAGEMENT IN THE DAILY OPS ! How are our leaders going to lead, if needed, against management, when they are past the professional courtesy of acknowledgment?
AMFA/TWU/IBT/IAM, they are all the same. What's USAir mechs making now? I'll tell you what, our next wage decrease is what. And why? Because they like it is why. They love knowing they saved a worthless company by making their families suffer, and we will too, just a matter of time brothers and sisters, just a matter of time!
Just my 2¢ worth of useless rhetoric.
seed,Jan 27 2005, 08:33 PM]
Actually there has been an uproar since we were stapled, and the Job Security clause isn't worth the paper it was written on, ask the boys with less than 9/98 seniority that are on the street.
Well now you truly are starting to see the TWU for what it is worth.
What gets me is that we still are charged the full dues when we do not operate under the same contract, spleen that one to me.
Well you do, the TWU just applies it differently for you guys.
This crap of having "pajama parties" is beyond my interpretation of a union activity.
No, but it is a typical TWU activity. You should have seen Jim Littles predecessor-Ed Koziatek's retirement party! There were more management there than union. In fact Don Carty sat at the same table as Ed. Ed told me that the concessions of the eighties were neccessary to grow the company and that the TWU would NEVERE STRIKE AA. Don Carty got up during Eds party and said "I didnt know what to give Ed but then I came up with the perfect gift-7000 new dues paying members!"
And do not misrepresent this as pro-AMFA, they are getting just as bad. Unionism is dead.
Why because they just told UAL to go pound salt and said "Lets see the judge, and if need be, lets strike?" Where will you stand if they strike seed? Will you willingly work UAL planes?
Now we have "Joint Leadership". What ever happened to management managing, and the labor side doing the labor.
That assumes that you have a union. We have the TWU.
If we play management with the company, who do you think the upper management will lay fault to when they explain defaults to the stockholders.
The same people they always do-us. Then the TWU will agree and make us give back more concessions.
Plain and simple, our job is to turn wrenches, and produce a good product in a timely manner, NOT TO ASSIST MANAGEMENT IN THE DAILY OPS ! How are our leaders going to lead, if needed, against management, when they are past the professional courtesy of acknowledgment?
They wont. Havent you figured that out yet?
AMFA/TWU/IBT/IAM, they are all the same.
No they are not. The TWU is the worst.
What's USAir mechs making now? I'll tell you what, our next wage decrease is what. And why? Because they like it is why. They love knowing they saved a worthless company by making their families suffer, and we will too, just a matter of time brothers and sisters, just a matter of time!
Unless we do somnething about it. Step one is to get rid of these company friendly business unions and unite across the industry.
Just my 2¢ worth of useless rhetoric.
How about investing 37 cents on an election authorization card to get rid of this company union?
Actually there has been an uproar since we were stapled, and the Job Security clause isn't worth the paper it was written on, ask the boys with less than 9/98 seniority that are on the street.
Well now you truly are starting to see the TWU for what it is worth.
What gets me is that we still are charged the full dues when we do not operate under the same contract, spleen that one to me.
Well you do, the TWU just applies it differently for you guys.
This crap of having "pajama parties" is beyond my interpretation of a union activity.
No, but it is a typical TWU activity. You should have seen Jim Littles predecessor-Ed Koziatek's retirement party! There were more management there than union. In fact Don Carty sat at the same table as Ed. Ed told me that the concessions of the eighties were neccessary to grow the company and that the TWU would NEVERE STRIKE AA. Don Carty got up during Eds party and said "I didnt know what to give Ed but then I came up with the perfect gift-7000 new dues paying members!"
And do not misrepresent this as pro-AMFA, they are getting just as bad. Unionism is dead.
Why because they just told UAL to go pound salt and said "Lets see the judge, and if need be, lets strike?" Where will you stand if they strike seed? Will you willingly work UAL planes?
Now we have "Joint Leadership". What ever happened to management managing, and the labor side doing the labor.
That assumes that you have a union. We have the TWU.
If we play management with the company, who do you think the upper management will lay fault to when they explain defaults to the stockholders.
The same people they always do-us. Then the TWU will agree and make us give back more concessions.
Plain and simple, our job is to turn wrenches, and produce a good product in a timely manner, NOT TO ASSIST MANAGEMENT IN THE DAILY OPS ! How are our leaders going to lead, if needed, against management, when they are past the professional courtesy of acknowledgment?
They wont. Havent you figured that out yet?
AMFA/TWU/IBT/IAM, they are all the same.
No they are not. The TWU is the worst.
What's USAir mechs making now? I'll tell you what, our next wage decrease is what. And why? Because they like it is why. They love knowing they saved a worthless company by making their families suffer, and we will too, just a matter of time brothers and sisters, just a matter of time!
Unless we do somnething about it. Step one is to get rid of these company friendly business unions and unite across the industry.
Just my 2¢ worth of useless rhetoric.
How about investing 37 cents on an election authorization card to get rid of this company union?
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