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Read recently that US plans on keeping the remaining B752 for Hawaii and international destinations. It appears that it takes six of these aircrafts, plus spares, for the Hawaii flights. There are flights to AMS, BRU, GLA, LIS and OSL. Any chance for additional cities with the B752? Would be nice to see PHL to ARN, CPH, DUS, HAM,TXL, and from CLT to some additional cities in South America such as BOG and LIM (understand that most if now all of the South American cities must gain approval). CAL uses this aircraft type from EWR to ARN,CPH, HAM and TXL. The metro areas of DUS, HAM and TXL have large populations. Not sure about ARN and CPH but they are Star hubs.
 
There have been rumors of three more 757's joining fleet by year end.
 
There have been rumors of three more 757's joining fleet by year end.

Not this year at least...In the webcast today, US said that 6 planes (already scheduled) will leave the fleet by years end. Also said that current deliveries are still being planned for the current delivery dates. The said that they were not moving up any widebodies right now either. So I have to believe that this rumor is false.
 
Not this year at least...In the webcast today, US said that 6 planes (already scheduled) will leave the fleet by years end. Also said that current deliveries are still being planned for the current delivery dates. The said that they were not moving up any widebodies right now either. So I have to believe that this rumor is false.

I hear ya, I listened to the webcast as well. They also said repeatedly that there wouldn't be any pilot recalls this year as well and guess what??? We are recalling.

My sources are telling me that 3 757's are a done deal, not sure when but are definitely coming. Time will tell.
 
Read recently that US plans on keeping the remaining B752 for Hawaii and international destinations. It appears that it takes six of these aircrafts, plus spares, for the Hawaii flights. There are flights to AMS, BRU, GLA, LIS and OSL. Any chance for additional cities with the B752? Would be nice to see PHL to ARN, CPH, DUS, HAM,TXL, and from CLT to some additional cities in South America such as BOG and LIM (understand that most if now all of the South American cities must gain approval). CAL uses this aircraft type from EWR to ARN,CPH, HAM and TXL. The metro areas of DUS, HAM and TXL have large populations. Not sure about ARN and CPH but they are Star hubs.
Agree with your post and the destinations mentioned. With the debut of TXL's (Berlin) new airport this Fall, US definitely needs to jump in and serve that route out of PHL. CPH and ARN are SAS (STAR hubs) and should be considered as well. B757's on many Latin routes out of CLT would be perfect with a pax/cargo focus should be looked at as well. US has a code share with TACA but connectivity is lacking. BOG/LIM/ITO would be good additions.
 
Agree with your post and the destinations mentioned. With the debut of TXL's (Berlin) new airport this Fall, US definitely needs to jump in and serve that route out of PHL. CPH and ARN are SAS (STAR hubs) and should be considered as well. B757's on many Latin routes out of CLT would be perfect with a pax/cargo focus should be looked at as well. US has a code share with TACA but connectivity is lacking. BOG/LIM/ITO would be good additions.

Wouldn't the B752 with winglets have enough range to serve both Dublin and Madrid out of Charlotte? Madrid could bring connection traffic for both GIG and GRU. Would love to see AMS out of CLT too.
 
Wouldn't the B752 with winglets have enough range to serve both Dublin and Madrid out of Charlotte? Madrid could bring connection traffic for both GIG and GRU. Would love to see AMS out of CLT too.


I would love to see MAD from CLT, I have family there,


International Dan
 
Wouldn't the B752 with winglets have enough range to serve both Dublin and Madrid out of Charlotte? Madrid could bring connection traffic for both GIG and GRU. Would love to see AMS out of CLT too.

Probably not. The 757 is distance-challenged (especially in winter) to most of the European mainland destinations it serves out of PHL. CLT is further from Europe than PHL, generally by several hundred nautical miles. Exact mileage depends on the city, though. MAD is about 370 nm further from CLT than from PHL. CLT-DUB adds an extra 390 nm than from PHL.

Europe is very far north compared to the 48 contiguous United States. PHL is about on par latitude-wise with LIS and MAD. This puts CLT at a distance disadvantage because it is considerably south and west of every destination in Europe as compared to PHL.

If you check the map, you will see that Dublin is at a much higher latitude than Nova Scotia, Canada. The only thing that keeps Europe from enduring the same icebox temperatures that northern Canada enjoys is the Atlantic Gulf Stream.
 
Quick Question:

True or False, there are no 757's currently in production by Boeing? If true then these would be off lease aircraft or from another airline correct?
 
Boeing shut down the 757 line several years ago.
 
Madrid could bring connection traffic for both GIG and GRU.

I'm not sure I see all that much connecting traffic between Spain and Brazil. Even if someone wanted to fly between the two, they're going to choose US and not IB, BA or AA (which were granted ATI earlier this week)? IB serves GIG and GRU from MAD and AA serves them via MIA.

Anyway, the 752s are a little range-challenged to serve MAD from CLT.
 
Read recently that US plans on keeping the remaining B752 for Hawaii and international destinations. It appears that it takes six of these aircrafts, plus spares, for the Hawaii flights. There are flights to AMS, BRU, GLA, LIS and OSL. Any chance for additional cities with the B752? Would be nice to see PHL to ARN, CPH, DUS, HAM,TXL, and from CLT to some additional cities in South America such as BOG and LIM (understand that most if now all of the South American cities must gain approval). CAL uses this aircraft type from EWR to ARN,CPH, HAM and TXL. The metro areas of DUS, HAM and TXL have large populations. Not sure about ARN and CPH but they are Star hubs.

PHL-DUB has traditionally been a B752 as well, and will likely be next summer as the B767s are redeployed on longer missions. I wouldn't be surprised to see ARN return next summer and I believe CPH and DUS are good candidates as well. If SK would agree to a codeshare, it would help to improve the performance of both of those flights.

As for S. America, LIM would be a good option; BOG is currently closed, though rumors are that US-Colombia are close to signing a full open-skies agreement. If that comes to fruition, I see the A319 as being a more logical option for CLT-BOG atleast to start with.

Wouldn't the B752 with winglets have enough range to serve both Dublin and Madrid out of Charlotte? Madrid could bring connection traffic for both GIG and GRU. Would love to see AMS out of CLT too.

MAD is out of range for the B752, though I nonetheless believe that is a good candidate for seasonal flights next summer with a B767. CLT-DUB could be flown with a B752 comfortably. I don't really see a need for CLT-AMS; AMS isn't really that big of an actual destination and it is more than adequately served from the USA since AF/KL uses it as a major connecting hub.

Re Spain and Brazil: What is the need to connect the two? You realize that Brazil has ties to the other country on the Iberian peninsula, right? Even if there were substantial demand, the connections from S. America to Europe would be horrid as GIG/GRU flights arrive early in the morning and European flights depart in the late afternoon/early afternoon (~10hr layover). The return connections wouldn't be that much better either.
 
Re Spain and Brazil: What is the need to connect the two? You realize that Brazil has ties to the other country on the Iberian peninsula, right? Even if there were substantial demand, the connections from S. America to Europe would be horrid as GIG/GRU flights arrive early in the morning and European flights depart in the late afternoon/early afternoon (~10hr layover). The return connections wouldn't be that much better either.

Good point. Connections via the USA would not appeal to very many, be they on AA or US. If we're talking about LIS-Brasil traffic, TAP Portugal serves nearly every major city in Brasil.
 
As for S. America, LIM would be a good option; BOG is currently closed, though rumors are that US-Colombia are close to signing a full open-skies agreement. If that comes to fruition, I see the A319 as being a more logical option for CLT-BOG atleast to start with.

Both LIM and BOG would be best serviced with a 757 out of CLT. Also have CTG, CLO, CCS, UIO and GYE which are good cities for service.

BOG is around 2200 nautical from CLT. Add a density altitude of 8500+ and I think the 319 would be hard pressed to make the flight with deviations for WX through the ITCZ.

The 319 would be good for FLL - BOG though. 🙄
 
Both LIM and BOG would be best serviced with a 757 out of CLT. Also have CTG, CLO, CCS, UIO and GYE which are good cities for service.

BOG is around 2200 nautical from CLT. Add a density altitude of 8500+ and I think the 319 would be hard pressed to make the flight with deviations for WX through the ITCZ.

The 319 would be good for FLL - BOG though. 🙄
I bet CLT-MAN would do well.
 
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