Birth Control

[townpete]

You know where they lacked adequate access to contraceptives? Hawaii, 1961.

 

[Knotbuyinit]

So now you expect a triage nurse to determine who was shot in an illegal activity vs. a legal one?...

I say treat 'em, and if they're found to have been shot in the line of illegal activity, let 'em work it off by adding time to their sentences commensurate to the medical expenses. If health costs keep rising, you might wind up with people spending more time in jail for that than for their original crimes...

Thanks for your comment.

I expect the triage nurse to do what the law requires of them, treat emergency patients.

My thoughts on the matter is that once law enforcement determines that the injuries are a result of illegal drug activity, the cost (or portions of) of the treatment should come out of funds confiscated by the DEA (IIRC about 335 million a year) as part of the war of drugs.

If not for …………

 

[delldude]

Right now, you are paying for health care for people who either choose not to buy it or cannot afford it. And you are paying for it when it is the most expensive (the emergency room).

Lets not forget government mandated costs for services under the medicare family.

 

[tech2101]

I see we have another poster here who is completely comfortable with passing false and misleading information that suits their narrative.

So where is the link to support your statement that “hospitals being able to turn ANY patient that does not have the ability to pay what they deem acceptable”? You are aware that Congress passed the EMTLA in 1986 (https://www.cms.gov/EMTALA/) to ensure public access to emergency services regardless of ability to pay . . . right?

No Idiot, we shouldn’t “cut all government subsidies to all hospitals and let them stand or fall”. You should refrain from using such language, you sound like the child that takes his ball and leaves when things don’t go his way!

Why not just grant the Catholic Church a waiver (like Obama did with Unions, Brotherhoods and Guilds) and give them a pass on the mandate?

And why is it that I have to pay for a person’s healthcare when they choose not to buy it for themselves?

Emergency healthcare for those that are uninsured is the law, even if the emergency is a gun shot wound suffered during an illegal drug deal that went terrible wrong. I personally don’t care to pay for such “emergencies” as that goes against my core values. Let them suffer the consequences of their actions and leave me out of it!

Reading comprehension is obviously not your strong suit.

The comment I posted was directed at Sparrowhawk. I opined "Then you are for hospitals being able to turn away any patient that does not have the ability to pay what they deem acceptable?" since he opposed anyone having to have mandatory coverage. We already have mandatory coverage, as you pointed out, (indigent care) the only problem is that the only time we have to give it is when there is an emergency and the patient will get treatment when it is the most expensive. Some of these cases are from people who, if they had well care, would not have to go to an emergency room when a small illness turns into a life threading situation.

I called you a plagiarizer, which you are since you posted someone else's written article without giving a source. Saying you could not because of a computer problem is a lame excuse. You were able to cut/paste it with no problem. Why not point out that you got it from Thom Lambert? If that makes you so angry that you need to call me an idiot, then that is your problem.

 

[tech2101]

Lets not forget government mandated costs for services under the medicare family.

Of course Dell. I didn't want to delve into that for fear someone's head might explode. 😛

 

[tech2101]

Seriously Tech, the ACA can be amended by ANY administration to impose whatever mandate they see fit and justifiable, even mandates that go against your core values. Don’t you see or understand what the real issue is behind this mandate? Isn’t this the slippery slope we should avoid?

Any legislation or executive order can also be undone by the next congress or President. What is your point?

 

[delldude]

Merely posting an article with out sourcing I wouldn't categorize as plagiarism unless the poster attempted to claim to be the author.

At best maybe a violation of internet etiquette.

Besides, if you know how to right/left click......... 😱

I helped write this...

 

[Ms Tree]

Another Catholic-bashing thread.

This is not about Obamacare forcing Catholic institutions to pay for contraception.

The issue is government interference with religion.

What do you think would happen if Obamacare mandated that a Jewish soup kitchen must serve pork sandwiches?

This has nothing to donwith religion. This has to do.with if you supply insurance you must do it they way everyone else does. Personal beliefs have nothing to do with it. If we allow personal beliefs to exempt certain items then everyone will want out of something

 

[SparrowHawk]

This has nothing to donwith religion. This has to do.with if you supply insurance you must do it they way everyone else does. Personal beliefs have nothing to do with it. If we allow personal beliefs to exempt certain items then everyone will want out of something

OK, so exactly where does the US Government derive it's authority to tell a private insurance company how to craft or market their product offerings?

 

[delldude]

OK, so exactly where does the US Government derive it's authority to tell a private insurance company how to craft or market their product offerings?

Or a private entity of any kind?

 

[xUT]

So now you expect a triage nurse to determine who was shot in an illegal activity vs. a legal one?...

I say treat 'em, and if they're found to have been shot in the line of illegal activity, let 'em work it off by adding time to their sentences commensurate to the medical expenses. If health costs keep rising, you might wind up with people spending more time in jail for that than for their original crimes...

California’s Annual Costs to Incarcerate an Inmate in Prison

That's not a very cost effective method as it costs the state of commiefornia an approximate $66,500 per inmate per year. Approx $20,000 is inmate health care.

 

[tech2101]

Merely posting an article with out sourcing I wouldn't categorize as plagiarism unless the poster attempted to claim to be the author.

At best maybe a violation of internet etiquette.

Not quite:

Link

All of the following are considered plagiarism:

turning in someone else's work as your own
copying words or ideas from someone else without giving credit
failing to put a quotation in quotation marks
giving incorrect information about the source of a quotation
changing words but copying the sentence structure of a source without giving credit
copying so many words or ideas from a source that it makes up the majority of your work, whether you give credit or not (see our section on "fair use" rules)
Most cases of plagiarism can be avoided, however, by citing sources. Simply acknowledging that certain material has been borrowed, and providing your audience with the information necessary to find that source, is usually enough to prevent plagiarism. See our section on citation for more information on how to cite sources properly.

 

[delldude]

Not quite:

Link

Stretching it on a forum where every member has violated terms of internet posting protocols.

If you want to get big and ballsy, its a copyright infringement at the least.

 

[Dog Wonder]

Stretching it on a forum where every member has violated terms of internet posting protocols.

Does that mean making stuff up?

 

[tech2101]

Stretching it on a forum where every member has violated terms of internet posting protocols.

If you want to get big and ballsy, its a copyright infringement at the least.

You are correct dude.

I just hold myself to an academic standard at all times. It prevents me from getting kicked out of graduate school. I can get booted for plaigairizing anywhere. It does not necessarily have to be in one of my research papers or a thesis.

You know what they say, if you do what is right when no one is looking, you can not go wrong. 😉