Birth Control

[delldude]

That is why there are no strong candidates in this republican field. They do not want face Obama with an improving economy and hurt themselves for 2016 like Romney did in 2008.

Define improving.

 

[Ms Tree]

Jeb Bush will not get the nomination in this century or any other. George made sure of that.

 

[southwind]

You ought to talk to women who take contraceptives and ask them why they take it. You might learn something. Given that about 98% of women take them at one.point or.another during their life you can pretty much ask any women you see. Too issue.they are all sluts is quite ignorant and you may want to look around your family before. You say that.

Aside from that, female birthcontrol is far more.consistent, reliable and convienent to prevent conception. Given that it would help prevent unwanted pregnancies and abortions logic would dictate that contraception is a better option. Giventhat the church against contraception i can only conclude that they really.do not care about the fetus but are more concerned.with dogma and abortions controlling women's bodies as they have for centuries.

Doubt any of the above are more reliable than tubal ligation !

And my point Tree is, if this 30 year old woman can afford $50,000.00 a year tuition fees, she can sure as hell pay for her own contraceptives !

Now move along until you and Barry have a valid point to make !

 

[Dog Wonder]

You ought to talk to women.

He would, if he could find one that would come within talking distance of him.

 

[delldude]

Funny, in this charge down the road to detract all from the real issues, what about the cancer risk from contraceptives?

 

[xUT]

Is there a new pill that stops STD's? or did I miss that one?
B) 😛

 

[tech2101]

Funny, in this charge down the road to detract all from the real issues, what about the cancer risk from contraceptives?

I am sure you did not read Ms. Fluke's testimony, or have a real grasp on the health issues associated with this issue/debate. She succinctly pointed out a real life example of what can happen with women concerning contraception, or the lack there of.

I know this first hand as my wife and I dealt with the issue many years ago.

The Republicans (you) are on the wrong side of this issue and if you keep it up, you will pay for it dearly in November.

 

[delldude]

Is there a new pill that stops STD's? or did I miss that one?
B) 😛

I don't know about any pill but back in the day......

 

[delldude]

I am sure you did not read Ms. Fluke's testimony, or have a real grasp on the health issues associated with this issue/debate. She succinctly pointed out a real life example of what can happen with women concerning contraception, or the lack there of.

I know this first hand as my wife and I dealt with the issue many years ago.

The Republicans (you) are on the wrong side of this issue and if you keep it up, you will pay for it dearly in November.

This is a manufactured issue by the clowns on the left so the GOP are bad guys in Nov or are you too lame to see through the fog? Another lame ass shot by the left to scare for votes.

Don't patronize me bub. My MIL is a stage 4 survivor having BOTH breast and ovarian cancer from taking the pill.

 

[xUT]

I am sure you did not read Ms. Fluke's testimony, or have a real grasp on the health issues associated with this issue/debate. She succinctly pointed out a real life example of what can happen with women concerning contraception, or the lack there of.

I know this first hand as my wife and I dealt with the issue many years ago.

The Republicans (you) are on the wrong side of this issue and if you keep it up, you will pay for it dearly in November.

IMHO, most of us read the 'testimony' and I agree that there are special cases.
Just whom should pay for it.
Personally, I think the gooberment should pay for any/all contraception drugs/devices/surgeries and in some cases make it mandatory (15 kids, no income, #16 in the hanger).
But that's me...
B) xUT

 

[Ms Tree]

Contraceptives is more.than just cotraceptive. It is medicine a host of other conditions. One of the most important issues with birth control is control over ones sexuality.

Aside from that if the biggest concern for the religious right is the reduction of the number of abortions then why not advocate theuse of birth control? The fact that the religious right is not four square behind birth control seem to show that they ae me concerned about preserving dogma at the expense of human life.

People are going to have sex. There are going tobe unwanted pregnancies and the abortions that come with it. Why not promote something that would save lives?

 

[tech2101]

IMHO, most of us read the 'testimony' and I agree that there are special cases.
Just whom should pay for it.
Personally, I think the gooberment should pay for any/all contraception drugs/devices/surgeries and in some cases make it mandatory (15 kids, no income, #16 in the hanger).
But that's me...
B) xUT

It should be covered like any other preventative medication. Hell, insurance companies pay for blood pressure meds and diabetes control. Will you have them qualify the coverage to ensure that the diabetes is not obesity related? Or the high blood pressure not related to eating bacon cheeseburgers daily?

We can also argue who is actually paying for this. It is paid for by premiums paid by employees. If they pass that on to the employee, then that will be a employer/employee issue.

 

[Knotbuyinit]

I am sure you did not read Ms. Fluke's testimony, or have a real grasp on the health issues associated with this issue/debate. She succinctly pointed out a real life example of what can happen with women concerning contraception, or the lack there of.

I know this first hand as my wife and I dealt with the issue many years ago.

The Republicans (you) are on the wrong side of this issue and if you keep it up, you will pay for it dearly in November.

Never mind that the subject of the hearing was the CONSTITUTIONAL issues of the mandate on First Amendment grounds.

It is funny that a supposed law student doesn’t even bother weighing in on the unconstitutionality that is Obama’s attack on religious institutions. Law students are trained to argue both sides of any issue; this strumpet only repeated her leftist agenda without even acknowledging that those opposed to her demands for free contraception might have just as good a case as a 30-year-old shrew who styles herself as a birth control activist.

I read the publicity whores testimony and there is absolutely no correlation between her need for tax payer provided birth control pills and a health risk. None! Maybe you should enlighten me on the health risk associated with not providing her free birth control pills for the sole purpose of expressing her sexual freedom. I’ll wait.

As was previously stated by the resident know-it-all, 98% of all women have used birth control at one time or another in their life. He failed to mention that all 98% (references not required from Ms Tree) either paid for their birth control pills or were provided free from Planned Parenthood.

The tale of her friend who simply stopped taking her birth control pills for her cystic ovaries because she couldn’t afford them sounds incredibly implausible to me. If she were a diabetic, would she have stopped taking insulin if she couldn’t afford it? Surely if you are taking birth control pills for a medically necessary reason you could get coverage through your insurance provider (even viagra, when taken for its original intended use as an anti hypertensive, gets covered by most plans).

As a married 55 year old father of two daughters I too have dealt with this issue many years ago. When my wife and daughters needed birth control pills for medical reason my insurance provider had no problem covering the cost of the pills. When my daughters felt the necessity to use birth control pills for er, birth control reasons they paid for them out of pocket.

It’s the Democrats (you) who are on the wrong side of the constitutional issues surrounding this mandate!

 

[delldude]

It should be covered like any other preventative medication. Hell, insurance companies pay for blood pressure meds and diabetes control. Will you have them qualify the coverage to ensure that the diabetes is not obesity related? Or the high blood pressure not related to eating bacon cheeseburgers daily?

We can also argue who is actually paying for this. It is paid for by premiums paid by employees. If they pass that on to the employee, then that will be a employer/employee issue.

The issue is 'free' coverage for starters....funny, wouldn't think for an instant Obama isn't sucking for the 18-35 or higher vote here. 😱

I am sure you did not read Ms. Fluke's testimony, or have a real grasp on the health issues associated with this issue/debate. She succinctly pointed out a real life example of what can happen with women concerning contraception, or the lack there of.

Remember the third rail of politics? Medicare and SSI? Funny last election and maybe prior it kind of fizzled away....wonder why. That was the Dems tried and true tactic pretty much the last 30-40 years, scare the oldies by creating a polarizing issue running up to the election...usually has fair results. Why aren't they going that way now? Hmmm.....could it be the 'oldies' are boomers who've heard that bullshit for quite a long time and aren't going to buy it? So what do we do once again running up for an election, Obama attacks the Catholic church, creates all kind of polarizng moments, then he says not to worry, insurance companies will cover it....Self insured Catholics still on the defensive......now the polarizing issue is insurance coverage of contraceptives, Issa has a hearing on 1st amendment issues with religious leaders, Dems try to steal the thunder by putting the same sweet little girl reproductive activist to testify and make a circus out of it and they storm out and two weeks later the same sweet little girl activist that Nancy was behind before gets her 15 minutes of fame and now this crap becomes the polarizing issue leading up to probably the most critical election in this countries history which has much bigger issues of much greater importance and most of the lemmings including yourself fail to grasp the real reason behind this issue and like blind fools suck the koolaid by the bucket.

And now the latest:

Sandra Fluke is being sold by the left as something she's not. Namely a random co-ed from Georgetown law who found herself mixed up in the latest front of the culture war who was simply looking to make sure needy women had access to birth control. That, of course, is not the case.

As many have already uncovered Sandra Fluke she is, in reality, a 30 year old long time liberal activist who enrolled at Georgetown with the express purpose of fighting for the school to pay for students' birth control. She has been pushing for mandated coverage of contraceptives at Georgetown for at least three years according to the Washington Post.

However, as I discovered today, birth control is not all that Ms. Fluke believes private health insurance must cover. She also, apparently, believes that it is discrimination deserving of legal action if "gender reassignment" surgeries are not covered by employer provided health insurance. She makes these views clear in an article she co-edited with Karen Hu in the Georgetown Journal of Gender and the Law.

The argument made in this article edited by Sandra Fluke and Karen Hu is quite clear. "Gender reassignment" is a medically necessary set of procedures that must be covered under employee provided health insurance policies. If it is not covered by those policies that is tantamount to discrimination and legal action should be taken against the employer.

So, as you can see, Sandra Fluke is not what she is being sold as. Instead she is a liberal activist pushing some rather radical ideas. Keep that in mind as the left holds her up in the spotlight.

But shes such a nice girl, a role model for my daughters..... 😉

So much for DNC debate

 

[Dog Wonder]

Republicans have the utmost respect for women.