Birth Control

[delldude]

Republicans have the utmost respect for women.

So what is so disrespectful of a political tool designed for the result DNC is wantonly hoping to achieve.?

I think you fail to realize the disrespect is actually from DNC once again using people for their own political gain.

 

[Dog Wonder]

So what is so disrespectful of a political tool designed for the result DNC is wantonly hoping to achieve.?

I think you fail to realize the disrespect is actually from DNC once again using people for their own political gain.

Thank Rush.

 

[delldude]

Republicans have the utmost respect for women.

Hey Dog, speaking of respect for women, John Edwards is looking to stop the court from destroying his sex tape banging some chickie.
You might want to purchase this one, got to be real respectful or he wouldn't being going to court.

 

[delldude]

Thank Rush.

That in itself is quite a good point. He was the only one in MSM who realized the Fluke had prostituted herself out to the DNC and in essence became a slut for a political cause for Obama. Wonder if she got it in the Lincoln bedroom?

 

[Dog Wonder]

There's that respect for women I'm talking about.

Comes from dating underage Dominican hookers.

 

[delldude]

There's that respect for women I'm talking about.

Comes from dating underage Dominican hookers.

😱 Got any phone numbers?

 

[delldude]

I am sure you did not read Ms. Fluke's testimony, or have a real grasp on the health issues associated with this issue/debate. She succinctly pointed out a real life example of what can happen with women concerning contraception, or the lack there of.

I know this first hand as my wife and I dealt with the issue many years ago.

The Republicans (you) are on the wrong side of this issue and if you keep it up, you will pay for it dearly in November.

Yeah tell me about it about it Dude...........

As evidence has now sufficiently established, contraception poster-woman Sandra Fluke specifically went to Georgetown University to protest their policy on contraceptives. In her testimony, she blames this policy for leaving friends with genuine medical ailments to rot out of excessive concern over policing its students’ sex lives.

Or does she? Fluke‘s testimony contains a notable passage which calls her entire story into question regarding Georgetown’s policy on covering contraceptives (emphasis added):

A friend of mine, for example, has polycystic ovarian syndrome and has to take prescription birth control to stop cysts from growing on her ovaries. Her prescription is technically covered by Georgetown insurance because it’s not intended to prevent pregnancy. Under many religious institutions’ insurance plans, it wouldn’t be, and under Senator Blunt’s amendment, Senator Rubio’s bill, or Representative Fortenberry’s bill, there’s no requirement that an exception be made for such medical needs. When they do exist, these exceptions don’t accomplish their well-intended goals because when you let university administrators or other employers, rather than women and their doctors, dictate whose medical needs are legitimate and whose aren’t, a woman’s health takes a back seat to a bureaucracy focused on policing her body.

Georgetown’s spokeswoman did not return repeated requests for comment regarding which forms of contraceptive use are, in fact, covered by Georgetown’s insurance policy.

Cynical observers may remark that this shows the degree to which Democrats rushed Fluke forward as a witness without vetting her. It is not clear that she is even an expert on the effects of contraceptive bans at Catholic universities, despite this being the main reason she, and not a national pro-contraception mandate leader, was called to testify. At best, this statement makes Fluke’s personal connection to Georgetown dubiously relevant. At worst, it calls her entire speech into question.

My my.....could there be an agenda here?

(Oh its the Blaze)

 

[Dog Wonder]

😱 Got any phone numbers?

Call Rush.

He can hook you up with some meds, too.

 

[delldude]

Call Rush.

He can hook you up with some meds, too.

Get all I need Hangar 5

 

[Ms Tree]

Never mind that the subject of the hearing was the CONSTITUTIONAL issues of the mandate on First Amendment grounds.

Interesting. Were I a member of Congress and having a hearing on the constitutionality of something I would ask Constitutional scholars and professors of law to discuss the issue. The hearing had nothing to do with the Constitution. It had to do with religious institutions being bent out of shape about having to follow the same laws that everyone else does.

It is funny that a supposed law student doesn’t even bother weighing in on the unconstitutionality that is Obama’s attack on religious institutions. Law students are trained to argue both sides of any issue; this strumpet only repeated her leftist agenda without even acknowledging that those opposed to her demands for free contraception might have just as good a case as a 30-year-old shrew who styles herself as a birth control activist.

First, not sure about you but I actually pay insurance premiums so I fail to see how my benefits from insurance is free. Second, if there is an argument against insurance companies being forced to provide contraceptives then make it. Religious objections do not cut it. There are religious objections to dam near everything. Quakers are pacifists but they still have to pay taxes which go to the military. Churches are exempt, religious hospitals and schools are not. They have top abide by the same laws that everyone else does.

I read the publicity whores testimony and there is absolutely no correlation between her need for tax payer provided birth control pills and a health risk. None! Maybe you should enlighten me on the health risk associated with not providing her free birth control pills for the sole purpose of expressing her sexual freedom. I’ll wait.

Polycystic Ovary Syndrome
Endometriosis
Menstrual Cramps
Premenstrual Syndrome
Heavy Menstrual Periods
Acne
anemia

There are more and feel free to look them up.

As was previously stated by the resident know-it-all, 98% of all women have used birth control at one time or another in their life. He failed to mention that all 98% (references not required from Ms Tree) either paid for their birth control pills or were provided free from Planned Parenthood.

I must have missed all the references in your post. Given that insurance does not pay for contraceptives of course they had to pay for it. That is what this whole discussion is about.

The tale of her friend who simply stopped taking her birth control pills for her cystic ovaries because she couldn’t afford them sounds incredibly implausible to me. If she were a diabetic, would she have stopped taking insulin if she couldn’t afford it? Surely if you are taking birth control pills for a medically necessary reason you could get coverage through your insurance provider (even viagra, when taken for its original intended use as an anti hypertensive, gets covered by most plans).

I am sure there are no people out there who cannot afford medication they need for health reasons. The internet is your friend. Do a search and you might find some answers.

As a married 55 year old father of two daughters I too have dealt with this issue many years ago. When my wife and daughters needed birth control pills for medical reason my insurance provider had no problem covering the cost of the pills. When my daughters felt the necessity to use birth control pills for er, birth control reasons they paid for them out of pocket.

It’s the Democrats (you) who are on the wrong side of the constitutional issues surrounding this mandate!

This is about an insurance mandate to provide birth control as part of women's health care. This is about abiding by Tile VII civil rights act. The EEOC determined in 2000 that companies who provide insurance and do not cover contraceptives are in violation of the law. The Bush administration did nothing to withdraw or alter this ruling. The federal court later upheld the ruling in Erickson v. Bartell Drug Co.,

I view this as a womens rights issue. It grants women the control over their own body and sexuality. Sex is a part of relationships. The burden of birth control usually falls on the woman. Contraceptives are the most efficient and reliable way to prevent unwanted pregnancy and the resulting abortions. This has nothing to do with religious freedom. It is another case of religion trying to matain control over womens reproductive rights.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Many (including me) question the existence of the EEOC and the current public mandate as even being Constitutional. So pending the outcome of the case before SCOTUS all of this is really political posturing.

One thing is certain is there are no GROUP rights, Only Individual Rights

 

[Ms Tree]

I thought women were individuals?

 

[SparrowHawk]

I thought women were individuals?

Oh they are, we all are! So many journalists forget that. It's much easier to polarize a population and thereby control them when you lump them into groups and pit them against one another.

Just like the media is trying to do with all of us "Paulnuts", Paulista's, etc etc. Hell you even fall into that trap, we all do. The difference is we eventually withdraw from Group Think. A brain is a lot like a gut, if you don't exercise regularly it becomes soft and flabby. I'd argue that the real true obesity problem in this country is not physical, it's mental.

 

[Ms Tree]

Not sure what that has do with access to birth control medicine as part of their health care. They pay insurance premiums so why should they not have their medicine covered?


Moat addictions start out as mental and some (smoking) become physical (addiction to nicotine). I have issues with addictions being called diseases. Leukemia is a disease. Eating is not (in most cases).

 

[delldude]

Its still going to go down with Catholics as a vote issue against Obama.