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amt4u

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hi,i just try to purchase mia/sfo r/t buddy pass and i was qouted $ 290.00 ( no upgrades)
it used to be 1/2 that. i guess its cheaper to walk up to swa,jetblue and buy a ticket for $ 99.00 each way with positive space. 🙁

any comments?

thank you
 
You're right.




I think they should do away with space available employee travel and, instead, award ff miles to employees. But, then I'd also do away with award tickets for customers, instead let ff miles be used for comfort, convenience and amenity awards/upgrades. Go ahead and sell all the seats all the time.
 
amt4u said:
i guess its cheaper to walk up to swa,jetblue and buy a ticket for $ 99.00 each way with positive space. 🙁

any comments?

thank you
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Now you're thinking like a regular customer. Might want to check out some US advance purchase fares because we're cheaper than WN in quite a few markets on advance purchase fares. WN has you under their marketing spell. I'm not familiar with SFO-MIA, but I can tell you on the TPA-MHT market we were $110 plus tax rt while WN was $238 p/tx for an advance purchase ticket.
Regarding buddy passes in general, they used to be a good deal, but they are taken off the top level Y fare which has increased (I guess they need to get some money off the other carrier reroutes since this is used for that calculation). Many times when people come and ask for a buddy pass, I always fare out when they are planning on going and if the fare is close, suggest they might just want to buy the ticket.
Going to Europe is about the only place you save a lot of money, other than that, just get the regular ticket.
 
RowUnderDCA said:
I think they should do away with space available employee travel and, instead, award ff miles to employees.
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Just curious why this would be a good idea? The employees ONLY get a seat when it is empty so doing away with this and giving them FF miles to "book" a seat would take a seat away from a regular customer. The free travel benefit is one of the few remaining benefits that make it worthwhile to work for an airline vs another line of work, that is unless you want the rest of us to quit too. 😉
Making each employee have a FF account, I would think, would add to the costs since the account would have to be monitored, miles withdrawn, tickets issued, etc that do not have to happen with the travel benefits like they are now. I do know of many of us that do have accounts already since we often buy tickets to travel during peak times and many of us also have the BOA Visa card that we use.
Why do you think the FF accounts would be beneficial to the employees and the company vs the current way of space available travel?
 
amt4u said:
hi,i just try to purchase mia/sfo r/t buddy pass and i was qouted $ 290.00 ( no upgrades)
it used to be 1/2 that. i guess its cheaper to walk up to swa,jetblue and buy a ticket for $ 99.00 each way with positive space. 🙁

any comments?

thank you
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Same BS here at AA. My cost for my son to fly to MEX on AA's D-3 Pass, (which is a non restrivtive sp/avail ) is right at $190. Round trip on CO positive space all tx inc is $207. Its a no brainer
 
Does anyone actually use all your buddy passes? How many you get? Sounds like they suck. Another example of screwing over employees and rewarding passengers?
 
RowUnderDCA said:
You're right.
I think they should do away with space available employee travel and, instead, award ff miles to employees. But, then I'd also do away with award tickets for customers, instead let ff miles be used for comfort, convenience and amenity awards/upgrades. Go ahead and sell all the seats all the time.
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Companion passes are crap, no one uses them. U has the best regular travel program though so no one complains.

Now, RowUnder, I usually agree with you on things but the above is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. Take away the free travel and you have some of the most undesirable jobs in the world. Let's take flight attendant- ok, we're going to send you to 4-6 weeks of unpaid training, tell you where to live (nowhere exciting at this airline) so you can sit around on call for two hours notice to go work for four days, fourteen hour days with eight hour rests in shady hotels in depressing little cities. We'll give you ten days off, and pay you $1200 for the month, less than a cashier at Wal-Mart. Any takers?

Space available travel costs the company nothing but minimal admin costs. It's a unique benefit that attracts people to work for an airline despite the often harsh treatment and relative inability to support oneself. I never would have gotten into it if I couln't have gone home and seen my family or my other half on my precious days off. And it's not like we could afford to travel otherwise. My friend at MAA, five years into her career with U, brings home two checks a month for $514. How would anyone afford even the cheapest tickets on that? I used to fly home to my parents house just so I could eat and do laundry.

US Airways has a great travel program, likely because they have the most unappealing and inconvinient route network. Why on earth would they get rid of space available travel when EVERY other airline offers free or close to free travel? It would definately get everyone to quit and leave, but I don't know how they would attract anyone to work there. With the minimum wage they are offering new hires these days, it's the travel that's getting people. Many of these folks could make slightly more and have less hassle elsewhere, but would never have the opportunity to travel.

Given the choice with my own money, I likely would not fly US Airways. Thier route structure is inconvinient for me geographically, they can't get me from my point A's to B's without going back east. Thier product is really dumpy and inconsistant at the moment, and certainly not worth an upgrade to what they are calling first class. If I were adding up miles, Continental, United, or American would suit me better with thier variety of destinations and better product for my money. That said, if I was paying for travel I would probably only fly twice a year as I'm at the bottom of the economic totem pole, as opposed to now where I'll gallavant around the nation just to have a drink or a meal with a friend.

If they took away the travel, the airline would shut down, but not before mobs of angry employees flipped an Airbus on it's back and set fire to ground equiptment. It would not be pretty. Bad idea, with absolutely no reasoning aside from being mean. And do you want to be helped by a staff member who's never flown the airline?
 
im not sure what the whining is about... if US offers it cheaper online as a reg customer , then BUY IT !
 
usairways_vote_NO said:
Does anyone actually use all your buddy passes? How many you get? Sounds like they suck. Another example of screwing over employees and rewarding passengers?
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It has nothing to do with screwing employees AND rewarding customers. Customers have nothing in this fight. At one time when they first came out, buddy passes were a good deal most of the time. However since the airfares have continued to fall, they are not the great bargain they used to be. There are some routes where they are a good deal, especially for some last minute travel needs, but you have to check both options.
Another interesting repsonse from UVN. Dont know how many buddy passes WE get a year at US? Things that make you go hmmmmmm. 😛h34r:
 
tadjr said:
It has nothing to do with screwing employees AND rewarding customers.
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Seems to me that if a customer can get tickets cheaper then an employees so called benefit someone is getting screwed? Well maybe not because you can just go buy a regular ticket for them, hopefully on a different airline). Ok then call it a useless benefit.
 
usairways_vote_NO said:
Does anyone actually use all your buddy passes? How many you get? Sounds like they suck. Another example of screwing over employees and rewarding passengers?
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I guess this just proves you are not an employee and just a stirrer!
 
700UW said:
I guess this just proves you are not an employee and just a stirrer!
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Why are you stalking me? 😀 :blink: :lol: :down:

Oh and why are you off topic? :huh: 😛h34r: :unsure:

Sound familiar? It should its you.
 
LY-

See we have different perspectives, cuz I read your defense of the s/a travel as damning with faint praise. You say:

Space available travel costs the company nothing but minimal admin costs. It's a unique benefit that attracts people to work for an airline despite the often harsh treatment and relative inability to support oneself. I never would have gotten into it if I couln't have gone home and seen my family or my other half on my precious days off. And it's not like we could afford to travel otherwise. My friend at MAA, five years into her career with U, brings home two checks a month for $514. How would anyone afford even the cheapest tickets on that? I used to fly home to my parents house just so I could eat and do laundry.

US Airways has a great travel program, likely because they have the most unappealing and inconvinient route network.



However, I say s/a travel is of dubious real value and the employees would be better off working for an airline that sells more seats at reasonable prices more of the time, pays employees better AND shows appreciation with a decent employee discount on space positive travel. I suggest that part of an employee discount could be folded into the ff program, in part so that employees can get a personal idea of the customer experience, including being treated like a customer... good and bad. Seriously, if I were to say 'Light Years, U will either allow you space available travel benefits or award you 40,000 ff miles plus one mile for every dollar of gross pay per year.' Would you consider the other, understanding that you very well may buy a few more tickets than you would with s/a privs, but they would all be space positive. Oh, and you could accumulate the miles.

My point is that considering the openings at U in my field, I'd have to stifle a chuckle if in an interview someone were to mention the 'valuable flying benefits.' And I grew up as a pass rider.
 
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