Bundy. why no interest?

[Ms Tree]

 
Referencing the bizarre Bundy business: What serious "criminal" charges have been brought and prosecuted thus far? Any? Per your last: It would seem the BLM (a presumably infallible government agency) thought it best to return the cattle, apparently even to dangerous, "armed criminals". Why don't you go ask them? It was that august agency (who's insane actions you so heartily applaud) that returned impounded assets to a person who's owed the government funds for decades...and yet this all somehow "makes sense" to you, and you're clearly pleased to thrash cheerleader's pom poms around for them...? Perhaps you should address all concerns about clearly having "no plan" to the appropriate agencies?
 
The bottom line is whenever brandishing the mechanism of deadly force around: It's always a good plan to have at least some idea of where to draw the line on killing people. Where's your "line"?...Owed funds?...Cattle grazing in the desert?...Racist remarks?...What? Think about that a bit prior to wearing out too many sets of pom poms in favor of heavily armed actions by any agency......

BLM and at least two separate courts have rules that he must remove his cattle from public land.  He has failed to do so fro the past 20 years.  Someone has to enforce the law.  Not sure why the cattle was returned to him.  I have not read anything yet that explains that reasoning. 
 
Seems to me that if someone is surrounding them selves with armed personnel and refusing to abide by a court order that would be a good time for an armed response from law enforcement.  By the way, if by 'grazing in the desert' you mean grazing on public land with out paying fees in violation of the law and using armed personal to protect his criminal enterprise then yes.

 

[Ms Tree]

I do not think grazing disputes are not settled by "ARMED" Bureau of Land Management personel!
 
And you never answered, why exactly do we need an "ARMED" Bureau of Land Management? I got it! When the Chinese finally come to collect all the money BaRack is borrowing and decide to take their payment in land, we'll send out the "Bureau of Land Management Swat Team"!

Since the BLM deals with land management it would seem that it is right up their alley.
 
It would seem a armed response team would be needed to deal with an armed rancher who refuses to abide by the law.

 

[Ms Tree]

 
 
 

How do you rationalize a rancher violating federal law and court orders and using armed personal to support his criminal enterprise?  The Fed tried nice and polite, that failed.  So now they send an armed response team to deal with irrational pretend militia folks. 

 

[EastUS1]

Seems to me that if someone is surrounding them selves with armed personnel and refusing to abide by a court order that would be a good time for an armed response from law enforcement.  By the way, if by 'grazing in the desert' you mean grazing on public land with out paying fees.....

 
 
So the bottom line is the insane likes of yourself would just love to see people killed over some cattle grazing in a desert, because all laws are eternal, immutable and sacred, save for those on say, such issues as prohibiting gay marriage, or anything you personally don't agree with, which should instantly be changed to suit your beliefs, but again; killing people over a desert tortoise and grazing fees "makes sense" to you?...SERIOUSLY!? Sigh! Understood. I think we're done here. Folks...You just could NOT make this kind of insanity up! 😉

 

[EastUS1]

I don't particularly like all my tax dollars being used to manufacture and maintain nuclear weapons and missile silos, but oh well.

 
Sigh! How both caring and noble. Umm...Given your peaceful proclivities: How's it even possible that you can support the idea of being willing to have people killed over some cattle grazing in a frikkin' desert, and perhaps even a few tortoises? Once again....Folks...You just could NOT make this kind of insanity up!

 

[EastUS1]

 So now they send an armed response team to deal with irrational pretend militia folks. 

 
"an armed response team to deal with"..? Translation = You so love the current-and-clearly-infallible-government that you couldn't care less who they kill for even the most incredibly petty reasons, just as long as it's people you're uncomfortable with or actively dislike. The term used for folks cursed with such "thinking" during Stalinist times was "useful idiots", just sayin'....
 
Permit me to borrow from your earlier postings: "...you know you are dealing with a person completely detached from reality and with no regard for human life."

 

[Dog Wonder]

Would you shoot his cows if they grazed in your yard for twenty years?

 

[EastUS1]

Would you shoot his cows if they grazed in your yard for twenty years?

 
Nope. Heck, I'd have the grass mowed and fertilized for free, and undoubtedly a deal made for a lifetime supply of free steaks! But hey,..that's just me. 😉 Would you shoot human beings over ANY of this nonsense? If so: WHY? If not: WHY be so blindly supportive of "an armed response team"?...I'm listening...?

 

[Ms Tree]

So the bottom line is the insane likes of yourself would just love to see people killed over some cattle grazing in a desert, because all laws are eternal, immutable and sacred, save for those on say, such issues as prohibiting gay marriage, or anything you personally don't agree with, which should instantly be changed to suit your beliefs, but again; killing people over a desert tortoise and grazing fees "makes sense" to you?...SERIOUSLY!? Sigh! Understood. I think we're done here. Folks...You just could NOT make this kind of insanity up! 😉

No idea what you read but it sure as heck was not my post.

Bundy has violated the law. He has been doing so for 20 years. The BLM and the courts have told him to cease and desist. He has not only refused to do so but has also surrounded him self with whack job militia who are willing to hide behind women and children to prove their point. If they wish to commit suicide by cop that is their prerogative. I fail to see the benefit of allowing criminals to flaunt the law just because they are bat chit crazy.

 

[EastUS1]

 If they wish to commit suicide by cop that is their prerogative. I fail to see the benefit of allowing criminals to flaunt the law just because they are bat chit crazy.

 
Again you prove my point per the earlier assigning of insanity here. You've, yet once more, cheerfully shown an eager willingness to see people killed over nothing more than some cattle grazing in a desert.
 
"Bundy has violated the law." Yep...grazing cattle in supposedly public desert land really should become a capital offense. Well...Off with his head! shouts the Mad Red Queen! Where do you suggest drawing the line on the use of "an armed response team"?...I'm listening...? Would/should past-due parking tickets be enough next time? How about failure to renew auto insurance in a timely manner? 😉
 
"...who are willing to hide behind women and children..." For purely the sake of argument; let's assume that's the case. Why is it you're so clearly OK with "women and children" suffering "suicide by cop", over such trivial nonsense as this crazy scenario?
 
Should you wish to be seen as anything short of clinically insane here: Make a "rational" case (if you can) for advocating possible bloodshed over just the sake of some cattle grazing on otherwise unused desert land and I'll listen....?

 

[Ms Tree]

Cheerfully? Nope. How ever if you are going to use armed whack job wanna be militias to confront and interfere with law enforcement from executing a court order..... well that is a different story. You seem to be in some fantasy world where Bundy is just sitting on his porch whittling away on a stick and a tank division rolls up on him with Seal Team 6. Not quite the case here but if that what you chose to believe then have at it.

Not sure where you get the notion that grazing the cattle is what prompted the armed response. That's so far from the truth it's not even on this planet. The armed response was because of his threats and his crazy friends.

 

[EastUS1]

Not sure where you get the notion that grazing the cattle is what prompted the armed response. That's so far from the truth it's not even on this planet. The armed response was because of his threats and his crazy friends.

 
And you pompously pretend to know all this HOW? I didn't realize you held a seat within the inner circle of the BLM's leadership...?

 

[EastUS1]

.....whack job militia who are willing to hide behind women and children to prove their point. If they wish to commit suicide by cop that is their prerogative. I fail to see the benefit of allowing criminals to flaunt the law just because they are bat chit crazy.

 
Just a minor point of now mostly clinical curiosity here: What, in your estimation, should have been done about the following "whack job militia"? How should they have been dealt with?
 
https://www.google.com/search?q=armed+black+panthers&client=firefox-a&hs=IHt&rls=org.mozilla:en-US😱fficial&channel=sb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=q3pdU8KzKaiksQTr8oCIBQ&ved=0CCcQsAQ&biw=1920&bih=926
 
 
"The Panther's basic ideology was one of armed protection against police oppression." http://xroads.virginia.edu/~UG01/barillari/pantherchap1.html

 

[xUT]

 
Again you prove my point per the earlier assigning of insanity here. You've, yet once more, cheerfully shown an eager willingness to see people killed over nothing more than some cattle grazing in a desert.
 
"Bundy has violated the law." Yep...grazing cattle in supposedly public desert land really should become a capital offense. Well...Off with his head! shouts the Mad Red Queen! Where do you suggest drawing the line on the use of "an armed response team"?...I'm listening...? Would/should past-due parking tickets be enough next time? How about failure to renew auto insurance in a timely manner? 😉
 
"...who are willing to hide behind women and children..." For purely the sake of argument; let's assume that's the case. Why is it you're so clearly OK with "women and children" suffering "suicide by cop", over such trivial nonsense as this crazy scenario?
 
Should you wish to be seen as anything short of clinically insane here: Make a "rational" case (if you can) for advocating possible bloodshed over just the sake of some cattle grazing on otherwise unused desert land and I'll listen....?

Because you are trying to communicate a reasonable argument to the insane and irrational.
There is no middle ground unless it fits their 'agenda'.
They love 'the law' when they can manipulate it but are more than willing to kill anyone else (or watch them die) for 'justice'.
JMHO&PO,
B) xUT

 

[EastUS1]

Because you are trying to communicate a reasonable argument to the insane and irrational.
There is no middle ground unless it fits their 'agenda'.
They love 'the law' when they can manipulate it but are more than willing to kill anyone else (or watch them die) for 'justice'.
JMHO&PO,
B) xUT

 
So it clearly seems. Ya' gotta' admit it should be fun to watch any of them try spinning their current "beliefs" against the Black Panther scenario though. 😉 If just-plain-crazy weren't so dangerous; we'd have ourselves a lifetime of steady laughs from the "left".