Business as usual at JFK
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GOOD, that's to keep you KENNEDY AMT's "in line" :rant: 🙄 🙄
Just kiddin' Hopeful !!
HEY Hopeful,
I gotta' laugh !
I KNOW you were around in 1980/83', back when Al Casey was on his way out, and Ol' (uncle) BOBBY CRANDALL was coming on board.
Crandall shrunk the SH1T out of AA, only to rebuild it 4/5 years later into a MONEY MAKING MACHINE(late 80's and all the 90's).
I wonder if all the BULL SH!T artists were procliaming back then...."You CAN'T shrink to profitability" ???
Tell you the truth,...........with the exception of good people getting furloughed/re-furloughed, this "oil thing" will turnout to be a blessing in disguise for AA(though it certainly doesn't look like it at the moment), because it will remove a TON of DEADWOOD from the Industry.
AA has always been an Industry LEADER, and that includes..LEADING during very tough times, by doing unorthodox things as they did yesterday !
I don't know about you, but I'm VERY tired of people paying WN fares, to ride AA to places like JFK/LAX-SFO-SEA etc. !!
Screw them !
If they want el-cheapo fares to those places, let them schlep out to ISP, get on WN, pay nothing to check bags, and make 4/5 stops(with corney F/A's) to get to SEA/LAX etc.
WE(AA) went thru this before, and AA is a master at re-inventing itself !
I'm NOT worried one Iota !!!!!
(I wonder how high oil has to get to, before PHONEY Delta starts charging to check all bags ?.....$140-145-155-170-185-200 ??)
AA ROCKS(in times like this)
TWU..SUCKS ..ALL the time !!
Take care Buddy !!
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GOOD, that's to keep you KENNEDY AMT's "in line" :rant: 🙄 🙄
Just kiddin' Hopeful !!
HEY Hopeful,
I gotta' laugh !
I KNOW you were around in 1980/83', back when Al Casey was on his way out, and Ol' (uncle) BOBBY CRANDALL was coming on board.
Crandall shrunk the SH1T out of AA, only to rebuild it 4/5 years later into a MONEY MAKING MACHINE(late 80's and all the 90's).
I wonder if all the BULL SH!T artists were procliaming back then...."You CAN'T shrink to profitability" ???
Tell you the truth,...........with the exception of good people getting furloughed/re-furloughed, this "oil thing" will turnout to be a blessing in disguise for AA(though it certainly doesn't look like it at the moment), because it will remove a TON of DEADWOOD from the Industry.
AA has always been an Industry LEADER, and that includes..LEADING during very tough times, by doing unorthodox things as they did yesterday !
I don't know about you, but I'm VERY tired of people paying WN fares, to ride AA to places like JFK/LAX-SFO-SEA etc. !!
Screw them !
If they want el-cheapo fares to those places, let them schlep out to ISP, get on WN, pay nothing to check bags, and make 4/5 stops(with corney F/A's) to get to SEA/LAX etc.
WE(AA) went thru this before, and AA is a master at re-inventing itself !
I'm NOT worried one Iota !!!!!
(I wonder how high oil has to get to, before PHONEY Delta starts charging to check all bags ?.....$140-145-155-170-185-200 ??)
AA ROCKS(in times like this)
TWU..SUCKS ..ALL the time !!
Take care Buddy !!
Oh for the love...... Looks like you have gone down to Hotlanta and drank some of the Delta Kool-Aid!!!! Good luck man, I don't think you can spin this one...
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I think that AA will have another 1984-1999 thing happen with this. But in 2010 or so.
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GOOD, that's to keep you KENNEDY AMT's "in line" :rant: 🙄 🙄
Just kiddin' Hopeful !!
HEY Hopeful,
I gotta' laugh !
I KNOW you were around in 1980/83', back when Al Casey was on his way out, and Ol' (uncle) BOBBY CRANDALL was coming on board.
Crandall shrunk the SH1T out of AA, only to rebuild it 4/5 years later into a MONEY MAKING MACHINE(late 80's and all the 90's).
I wonder if all the BULL SH!T artists were procliaming back then...."You CAN'T shrink to profitability" ???
Tell you the truth,...........with the exception of good people getting furloughed/re-furloughed, this "oil thing" will turnout to be a blessing in disguise for AA(though it certainly doesn't look like it at the moment), because it will remove a TON of DEADWOOD from the Industry.
AA has always been an Industry LEADER, and that includes..LEADING during very tough times, by doing unorthodox things as they did yesterday !
I don't know about you, but I'm VERY tired of people paying WN fares, to ride AA to places like JFK/LAX-SFO-SEA etc. !!
Screw them !
If they want el-cheapo fares to those places, let them schlep out to ISP, get on WN, pay nothing to check bags, and make 4/5 stops(with corney F/A's) to get to SEA/LAX etc.
WE(AA) went thru this before, and AA is a master at re-inventing itself !
I'm NOT worried one Iota !!!!!
(I wonder how high oil has to get to, before PHONEY Delta starts charging to check all bags ?.....$140-145-155-170-185-200 ??)
AA ROCKS(in times like this)
TWU..SUCKS ..ALL the time !!
Take care Buddy !!
Hey, NH/BB's:
Don't forget the industry leading AA/TWU contract introducing the B Scale into the industry...
I don't like to entirely blame the passenger for keeping fares low, but they did have a hand in determining how much they are willing to pay. In turn, the airlines started attacking employees' wages and benefits in order to accommodate the flying public.
Starting with People's Express and Freddie Laker, the industry changed forever with deregulation.
But it looks like another cycle we are in right now. The end of cheap fares and the passenger has to realize that a body and a bag equals weight which equals fuel burn.
As for WN, their days are numbered as their fuel hedging begins to wane.
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Cubbies..John,
I think your guess, is a GOOD ONE !!
The bottom line is that JFK is carring the company right now, JFK just started new OALs IB, and Mexicana is due shortly.
Better ground equiptment is arriving daily.
The line has been drawn, that line is JFK.
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That's a bold statement. It seems to me that SFO has been doing more than its share.
No comparison, Terminal 8 at JFK ( with Finnair, Malev, Iberia, Jetair and Mexicana next , with more rumored ) is an fast becoming an airport onto itself.
As long as the dollar remains weak, JFK is strong.
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You nailed it! Our new Term 8 is supposed to house all members of the One World Alliance, eventually.
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Kennedy has been AA's Stronghold(though I'm sure that the folks in Texas and Okie-homa will say different.)
AA's very DNA lies between NYC and ORD.
HDQ's was in NY, until the company realized that in Texas and OK. there were TONS of Company Friendly Employees :down: :down:
If the TWU-ATD was still in NY, you'd see them possess a more substantial "package" between their legs.
(They'd have NO CHOICE)
JFK IS America's (real) Airport.
Try to get to "some" country Non-Stop, and can't,....................then there is a Strong possibility that "that" country doesn't EXIST !!
AA's very DNA lies between NYC and ORD.
HDQ's was in NY, until the company realized that in Texas and OK. there were TONS of Company Friendly Employees :down: :down:
If the TWU-ATD was still in NY, you'd see them possess a more substantial "package" between their legs.
(They'd have NO CHOICE)JFK IS America's (real) Airport.
Try to get to "some" country Non-Stop, and can't,....................then there is a Strong possibility that "that" country doesn't EXIST !!
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The quality and spirit of work out of SFO in all departments has always been unparalleled at American..all departments..IMO..
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I vehemently disagree! The MIA operation is carrying, and has carried AMR for years. They board more passengers on average than either DFW or ORD and on many occasions, more than both of them combined. That will be evident when pink slips start to fly.
It's the bottom line, other stations board more but JFK earns more. What's more important tright now?
JFK is both an AA and AOL operation right now, with the Five AOL contracts and related services paying for a good percentage of the AA employee side of the ledger.
Add please, that with the dollar so weak, NYC has become a beacon for European vacation bargain hunters. Just look at the loads on AA's BCN and MXP, the latest darlings.
NYC alone has more tourists in a year than all of Florida combined.
No other station in the system can can say that.
JFK is the engine that runs AA.
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Barfbag, I do agree with you on JFK's importance to AA, but you are replying to a quote where I spoke of business as usual about their hiring of another manager (aka supervisor). This at a time when the company announced a reduction in capacity, fleet size and employees. They are not hiring a manager (aka supervisor) because of the contract carriers.
In case you haven't heard, effective June 15, we no longer have the ZOOM Airlines maintenance contract.
Also in June, maintenance will no longer be doing MALEV's maintenance because we had to raise their rates and they said they'll get someone else on the field to do the work.
We will not be doing Mexicana's maintenance either.
Also, from June til August, AA will not be doing the maintenance on JetAirways because they will be flying an A330 and want one year's experience on that fleet.
My post was simply to bring to light that in spite of the company's financial situation and JFK management cracking down on overtime, they feel it so necessary to hire another manager (aka supervisor) to hang out in the operations tower and drink coffee.
