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Clt Vs. Phl

phl/yyz said:
PHL is a great station...unlike PIT love the mall... there is no O/D traffic...sorry nice a/p but airline has to market it's self where the traffic is get a clue...
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Market itself? Oh, gee....look where its gotten US Airways. Oh, and here's a few new PHL slogans for ya after last week's fiasco:

Philadelphia Where Eagles Fly And Bags Don't
PHL America's 'Bag'dad
Philadelphia International Airport: Whose You're Bag Daddy!!?
Travel Light? Come To Philadelphia
Yo! The Samsonite Gorilla Ain't Got Nothing On PHL!
 
I just talked to a friend a few days ago, active mainline F/A, who just came back from recurrent in CLT and they were taught the E170, armed/disarmed the door, filled out the schematic with the equiptment, the whole deal.

If/When the 190s come and if they equip it with a third jumpseat, they will be able to occupy it as per the mainline agreement. One would need to be qualified to do so. (P&P Manual, Section 1.12.1)
 

Hey loser,

Reporters don't print anything unless they can back it up....this just got you a trip to the "cornfields".

Happy New Year, ace!!! :up:
 
Thank you Lightyears..at least someone knows what they are talking about... :up:
 
Quit bashing PHL!!! Those folks are great! What about the 330 flight attendants that called out sick? THEY weren't all in PHL! THEY were a lot more responsible for this fiasco than the 6 extra rampers that called out in PHL(this year vs. last year). Let's see, that was 350 or so flights cancelled due to lack of crews. No wonder they couldn't move any bags....
 
Light Years said:
I just talked to a friend a few days ago, active mainline F/A, who just came back from recurrent in CLT and they were taught the E170, armed/disarmed the door, filled out the schematic with the equiptment, the whole deal.

If/When the 190s come and if they equip it with a third jumpseat, they will be able to occupy it as per the mainline agreement (although an MAA F/A would take priority). One would need to be qualified to do so.
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Light years,

This is not correct.

And then when and if there is a 3rd jumpseat, and if mid atlantic gets them (and they don't go to mesa), the mainline f/a get their senority.

That's the flow -through language. MAA does not have priority jumpseat on those seats. Its one seniority list. Period.

MAA get to ride on our jumpseats because we are on 1 senority list. And if they are active, they go above S4 mainline inactives because of their active status.
 
littlefatstomach said:
Quit bashing PHL!!! Those folks are great! What about the 330 flight attendants that called out sick? THEY weren't all in PHL! THEY were a lot more responsible for this fiasco than the 6 extra rampers that called out in PHL(this year vs. last year). Let's see, that was 350 or so flights cancelled due to lack of crews. No wonder they couldn't move any bags....
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Bashing PHL is a national pastime; why quit now? Anyway, stews don't lift bags so 14,000 bags piling up has nothing to do with flight crews.
 
USA320Pilot said:
In my opinion, employee attitude and personal pride.

Regards,

USA320Pilot
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I thought I was going to make it to the end of the year without having to do this again.....you are an ass, uninformed at that. First of all, I have seen some pretty nice stuff in PHL by people under pressure. Second...your attempt to portray the employees at one base a better than another is WHAT IS WRONG AT U! PHL is being managed wrong. Period. Maybe you can start the new year not attacking another employee group or base based on your warped impressions. Greeter.
 
Like I have said before..flight crews calling out sick on holidays is not nothing new. It happened this year, last year...and it will happen every year.
 
EyeInTheSky said:
Market itself? Oh, gee....look where its gotten US Airways. Oh, and here's a few new PHL slogans for ya after last week's fiasco:

Philadelphia Where Eagles Fly And Bags Don't
PHL America's 'Bag'dad
Philadelphia International Airport: Whose You're Bag Daddy!!?
Travel Light? Come To Philadelphia
Yo! The Samsonite Gorilla Ain't Got Nothing On PHL!
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market as in research (sp) hey from the sourthern div.... PHL now... give the place a brake...don't let one apple spoile em all... and ps go EAGLES learned to spell that when I got here...
 
Lightyears,

Where is PITbull getting their info from? It is obviously incorrect..maybe they need to call inflight.. 😛
 
phl/yyz said:
market as in research (sp) hey from the sourthern div.... PHL now... give the place a brake...don't let one apple spoile em all... and ps go EAGLES learned to spell that when I got here...
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Go STEELERS! 😛
 
PITbull said:
Light years,

This is not correct.

And the when and if there is a 3rd jumpseat, and if mid atlantic gets them (and they don't go to mesa), the mainline f/a get their senority.

That's the flow -through language. MAA does not have priority jumpseat on those seats. Its one seniority list. Period.

MAA get to ride on our jumpseats because we are on 1 senority list. And if they are active, they go above S4 mainline inactives because of their active status.
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I double checked and you're right about the jumpseat, it's by the mainline seniority list (I went back and changed it). Mainline, MAA, and W/Os are S3 for travel, furloughees (non MAA) are S4. Furloughed F/As, non MAA, may not occupy any cabin jumpseat, active mainline/MAA can by seniority.

A limited number of 190s can be flown by Chautauqua (who now flies the 170 for UA, and soon DL) if US is unable to finance them. Mesa does not fly any of the EJET family at this time, only the 145 and the CRJ200/700/900 family. I would guess if they were to do 90 seat flying for US, they would simply smack the old blue paint on the 90 seat jets they have rather than introducing and acquiring a new type.

Mainline F/As are coming back from recurrent talking about "the MidAtlantic plane" and, no surprise, bitching about having to be qualified on it when they don't work on it. I can't imagine people making it up or wandering into a door simulator by accident on the way to the restroom and ending up with another aircraft type under thier belt.

Look at theHub, Inflight Services page in the recurrent answer key (latest available is November 2004). The entire book must be completed by all F/As. Chapter 18 EMB170, right between B767 and Security.
 
xoxo said:
Lightyears,

Where is PITbull getting their info from? It is obviously incorrect..maybe they need to call inflight.. 😛
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3rd string last week...the game will be in JAX....GO EAGLES!!!
 
In regard to PHL, some of the PHL issues exist at other locations too. There are many good employees who are working very hard, but let me tell you about two situations I personally witnessed last week, regardless of what Mark King indicates.

On December 23 in Philadelphia we witnessed a FSA driving a baggage cart back and forth between two gates and the unloading area with his carts empty. This happened for about one-hour and not only was unproductive, but a clear violation of his duties.

In Boston we were the last flight out to New York on December 26 due to a blizzard with eight of inches of snow falling and 35-knot winds.

We originated our flight with an aircraft we received and there wwere no utility employees immediately available to clean the aircraft. The CSA and the flight crew cleaned the aircraft because the airport was going to close its runways for snow removal, and there was not a lot of time to depart.

After the aircraft was cleaned a utility worker showed up and angrily addressed the flight crew, but it was later determined the utility worker elected to not show up when the aircraft arrived.

The CSA worked extremely hard to process the passenger's, FSA’s did a nice job loading baggage, and maintenance did a nice job on push back and de-icing.

However, while we were waiting for loading and catering, with different employees helping each other out, we sat and watched the three utility workers from the cockpit through the break room window watching TV, while other aircraft needed their service.

The First Officer on the trip, who had supported the IAM in their struggle, told me that he no longer supported the IAM when he witnessed 3 people simply watching TV and not doing their job during a difficult period.

Separately, a colleague of mine told me about a disturbing story in PHL. He said, "I just got back from a 3 day trip, went through PHL on our way to YYZ late on Wednesday evening. A Captain told me that his F/O, whom is a Check Airman, offered to load some bags, and as he approached the bags, was told by a ramp guy, that if he even tried to load a bag on the aircraft, he would be dragged to one of the rooms underneath the terminal adjacent to the gate, and he would be dealt with in a harsh manner (physical beating) . This was a very serious threat to him, these thugs are in their last breath and don't even know it, like fish out of the water, but have and are doing a lot of damage....."

I believe there have been management mistakes and labor mistakes too. But those employees who called in sick and do not have a legitimate excuse or simply refuse to work need to be fired without back pay, period. As ALPA MEC chairman Bill Pollock said today, “I assure you that your union will demand that the atrocity that occurred in PHL will be fully investigated and those responsible for the damage to our airline will be held accountable for their actions.â€￾

Regards,

USA320Pilot
 

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