AAmech,May 6 2005, 06:22 AM]
Kinda of a Hypothetical question don't you think? I have my doubts that del Femine and his vaunted attorney Seham will allow a strike. Do you have any idea what this would do to his dues income? Not to mention the financial liability Amfa would incure should they violate the Judges TRO.
What did Mike Quill think of the Judges TRO? Too bad that there isnt anybody left like him at the International.
Seems that you are more worried about the finances of unions than the finances of workers. Could it be that the union is very generous to you?
And even if they do Strike why is now MY job to help bail out amfa from this mess that THEY are heavily responsible for creating?
First of all when is the last time you actually worked as a mechanic on an AA airplane? And sitting on the plane with your laptop on, flying somewhere for the TWU doesnt count.
The fact is that we, AA mechanics are responsible for the mess this profession is in. UAL was in trouble but when we went and undercut them by taking an additional 25% paycut we torpedoed the profession, not just for us but for all ground workers.
The fact is that the TWU has been undermining airline workers pay for twenty years. Many of the concessions that USAIR and UAL got in BK were concessions that the TWU willingly gave away years ago.
UAL workers have been paying for their medical since 2003. At AA we have been paying since 1989.
UAL mechanics did R&D until 2003, the TWU gave that away in 1983. This loss pushed up the number of mechanics jobs lost at UAL compared to AA but in order to make a fair comparasion you would have to compare the number of aircraft and trips and stations to see how many mechanics jobs were "lost" at AA because mechanics were no longer staffed at many stations and at those stations where there are mechanics, how many more there would be if we had not lost that work. So you can easily add another 15 to 20% to the numbers at AA just for R&D.
UAL did not have SRPs, the TWU gave AA these low cost D scale mechanics in 1995. Every SRP job should be considered one lost Mechanics position. So you can add at least another 10 to 15%.
So between undercutting other carriers labor costs through less benifits, siphoning away work and creating low paid subclasses of workers the TWU has worked hand in hand at slowly destroying the profession. They are like a cancer. Lets not forget the TWUs creation of "JUNIOR" Fleet service workers and other back door B-scale schemes that the TWU put in place. The TWUs destruction has not been confined to mechanics. The fact is the TWU is an industry union buster. They did more damage to airline workers than any single corporation or union bustiung firm out there. Considering that they put members of management in top positions in the union thats not suprising.
Finally after 20 years of holding out, other workers came under the intense pressure of BK, and only then, did they give up what the TWU did. Then once they did, bringing their costs in line with those the TWU offered AA, the TWU fired the coup de grace by once again undercutting them by putting in place the additional 25% cut in compensation that stripped away basic union standards such as Holiday pay, vacation, doubletime, uniforms etc. The TWUs claim is that they "saved the pension". Well a salary that you cant live off of will not produce a pension that you can live off of, and the only reason why we still have the pension at all is because it is less expensive than alternate plans and as the company defers payments they will use that liability as leverage during the next round of negotiations.
Remember the "VOTE NO, lets take it to the Judge" campaigne? Didn't work out quite like they hoped now did it? That 7% pay cut they were offered looks mighty fine now! As far as I'm concerned the Amfa "Profession Wreckers" can bail themselfs out of this disaster!
Well it sure looks better than our 25% that we took without going to the judge.
Its themselves, Associates in General?
Did anyone happen to look at the Annual Report?
Page 8, under D.Labor.
While the parties may begin discussions in 2006, the Labor Agreements do not become amendable until 2008.
Kinda of a Hypothetical question don't you think? I have my doubts that del Femine and his vaunted attorney Seham will allow a strike. Do you have any idea what this would do to his dues income? Not to mention the financial liability Amfa would incure should they violate the Judges TRO.
What did Mike Quill think of the Judges TRO? Too bad that there isnt anybody left like him at the International.
Seems that you are more worried about the finances of unions than the finances of workers. Could it be that the union is very generous to you?
And even if they do Strike why is now MY job to help bail out amfa from this mess that THEY are heavily responsible for creating?
First of all when is the last time you actually worked as a mechanic on an AA airplane? And sitting on the plane with your laptop on, flying somewhere for the TWU doesnt count.
The fact is that we, AA mechanics are responsible for the mess this profession is in. UAL was in trouble but when we went and undercut them by taking an additional 25% paycut we torpedoed the profession, not just for us but for all ground workers.
The fact is that the TWU has been undermining airline workers pay for twenty years. Many of the concessions that USAIR and UAL got in BK were concessions that the TWU willingly gave away years ago.
UAL workers have been paying for their medical since 2003. At AA we have been paying since 1989.
UAL mechanics did R&D until 2003, the TWU gave that away in 1983. This loss pushed up the number of mechanics jobs lost at UAL compared to AA but in order to make a fair comparasion you would have to compare the number of aircraft and trips and stations to see how many mechanics jobs were "lost" at AA because mechanics were no longer staffed at many stations and at those stations where there are mechanics, how many more there would be if we had not lost that work. So you can easily add another 15 to 20% to the numbers at AA just for R&D.
UAL did not have SRPs, the TWU gave AA these low cost D scale mechanics in 1995. Every SRP job should be considered one lost Mechanics position. So you can add at least another 10 to 15%.
So between undercutting other carriers labor costs through less benifits, siphoning away work and creating low paid subclasses of workers the TWU has worked hand in hand at slowly destroying the profession. They are like a cancer. Lets not forget the TWUs creation of "JUNIOR" Fleet service workers and other back door B-scale schemes that the TWU put in place. The TWUs destruction has not been confined to mechanics. The fact is the TWU is an industry union buster. They did more damage to airline workers than any single corporation or union bustiung firm out there. Considering that they put members of management in top positions in the union thats not suprising.
Finally after 20 years of holding out, other workers came under the intense pressure of BK, and only then, did they give up what the TWU did. Then once they did, bringing their costs in line with those the TWU offered AA, the TWU fired the coup de grace by once again undercutting them by putting in place the additional 25% cut in compensation that stripped away basic union standards such as Holiday pay, vacation, doubletime, uniforms etc. The TWUs claim is that they "saved the pension". Well a salary that you cant live off of will not produce a pension that you can live off of, and the only reason why we still have the pension at all is because it is less expensive than alternate plans and as the company defers payments they will use that liability as leverage during the next round of negotiations.
Remember the "VOTE NO, lets take it to the Judge" campaigne? Didn't work out quite like they hoped now did it? That 7% pay cut they were offered looks mighty fine now! As far as I'm concerned the Amfa "Profession Wreckers" can bail themselfs out of this disaster!
Well it sure looks better than our 25% that we took without going to the judge.
Its themselves, Associates in General?
Did anyone happen to look at the Annual Report?
Page 8, under D.Labor.
While the parties may begin discussions in 2006, the Labor Agreements do not become amendable until 2008.
