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Then again, did these cities even attempt to use the system these past few months? That was the purpose --to get used to it to some degree. What did we do before kiosks?
HAD MORE AGENTS
When management introduce kiosks they made the agents make customers use them. The station managers had to make a quota of 70 to 80 % of customers using them. Then when there kiosks numbers were up management layoff agents.
Qik over SABER is/was totally different then Qik SHARES the problems seem to be more computer aftereffects and a system not up to handling the east operations. SHARES operation side could not handle the east operation so management went with SABER
 
HAD MORE AGENTS
When management introduce kiosks they made the agents make customers use them. The station managers had to make a quota of 70 to 80 % of customers using them. Then when there kiosks numbers were up management layoff agents.
Qik over SABER is/was totally different then Qik SHARES the problems seem to be more computer aftereffects and a system not up to handling the east operations. SHARES operation side could not handle the east operation so management went with SABER

Want to see how bad Charlotte was:

http://www.charlotte.com/images/news/airli...0304/index.html

Gee, they even got a shot of an upset kid because her flight to Orlando and trip to Disney World was delayed. Nice one Tempe.

Later,
Eye
 
So how long until the next Clear Skies Ahead fire sale to make America forget about this?
 
That's the whole problem with this bunch...instead of relying on the experienced people who may be able to offer help due to their past experiences,Tempe labeled those who didn't fall in line with"you're just reluctant to change"and threw them under the bus. I know of certain large financial institutions that have gone through major mergers and most customers never even noticed.It all starts with "LEADERSHIP".Listen to the people who do the job and give them the tools they need. It's not rocket science!!!What goes around...
 
Gee, they even got a shot of an upset kid because her flight to Orlando and trip to Disney World was delayed. Nice one Tempe.
Now that's rich. Pictures like the little girl crying will tug at the heartstrings of readers. Although I think it's a form of cheap, sensational journalism, it paints a pretty good picture of the varying effects of this particular screwup.

The press is going to rip LCC a new one over the next few days.
 
Will this get worst today? IMO the Shares server will start crashing because of the large volumn of inquires and lack of system knowledge. Just a guess, lets hope they planned for this, but after yesterday anything is bound to happen.
 
Will this get worst today? IMO the Shares server will start crashing because of the large volumn of inquires and lack of system knowledge. Just a guess, lets hope they planned for this, but after yesterday anything is bound to happen.

SHARES often responds with "Busy" which slows the process. Navigation thru the pop-up screens is tedious at best. What used to take a minute with SABRE to process a customer, now takes five minutes or more for the agents to figure out which prompts to use. Sheer CHAOS for the customers. It was a big mistake not to imform customers that there may be glitches in the system. At least when we cutover from PACER to SABRE, we had signs/notices posted in the ATO advising people of possible problems and patience was needed. This time, the passengers were clueless and sometimes blamed the agents of being inept! :down:
 
And the Fun continues...............


Mess at Charlotte/Douglas
continues; kiosks down
Traveling? Arrive early, prepare for wait

Long lines are greeting travelers again this morning at Charlotte/Douglas International Airport, as US Airways struggles to fix a computer problem that has snarled its self-service kiosks for more than 24 hours.

Despite initial reports from the airline that the computer problems had been fixed, the terminal at Charlotte/Douglas is packed again this morning and the self-service kiosks are not working.

Shortly after 7 a.m., hundreds of passengers were milling outside the terminal, trying to use the curbside check-in service. Even more people were inside the terminal. Lines stretched almost the entire length of the passenger check-in area, and it appeared as if most of the people were US Airways customers.




Article continued here:

http://www.charlotte.com/109/story/40523.html



(Edit..continuity)
 
Elise the VP of Communications was on CLT morning news and she said the CLT Kiosks were on a differant IT platform and they don't know why they will not work, she said most of the former US Stations Kiosks are not working and they have no idea of when they will be up and running.

They did fly in 20 CSAs from PHX to open more ticket counter positions in CLT to help ease the mess.
 
What a sad time for us all. I am a cs agent with 24 years - formerly piedmont - been through and seen a lot. It is unfortunate, but clearly the focus is no longer on efficiency and customer service. It's all about generating profits by lowering costs. Which is fine, as long as you can accomplish this efficiently.
The shares system is extremely labor intensive because it consists of pop up windows that are filled in with the required information, as opposed to single DOS type entries with sabre. No huge deal for regular ontime operations, but when the system has major delays, ie weather systemwide, with lots of misconnects, shares is like running a footrace in mud up to your knees. It is just very inefficient.
So why the change? Because it is cheaper and easier to train new people to fill in popup masks as opposed to having long term career agents who have the motivation and time to learn a more complex system, such as sabre. The company objective is to have a constant turnover of entry level new agents starting at close to minimum wage, knowing they will not remain for a lifetime career.
This cheaper operating system combined with cheaper labor equals greater profitability potential, but at the cost of lessened efficiency and customer service.
Welcome to corporate America!
 
Mess at Charlotte/Douglas continues; kiosks down
Traveling? Arrive early, prepare for wait
STEVE LYTTLE and NICHOLE BELL
slyttle@charlotteobserver.com

Virginia Tech students Sean Moran (left) 20, and friend Kate Kulbok, 21, wait in line Sunday morning at Charlotte/Douglas International Airport to check-in for their flight to Ft. Lauderdale, Fla. (JASON E. MICZEK - Special to the Observer)
Kiosks at center of problems Sunday
Fliers forced to wait
Long lines for passengers

US Airways passengers are standing in long lines again today, because the airlines’ self-service kiosks remain out of service.

Airlines officials said it will be at least late today before the kiosks, used by most of U.S. Airways’ passengers, will be operating again.

In the meantime, customers must either check in with agents at the desk, or print out tickets online before arriving at the airport.

Long lines stretch through the passenger terminal this morning at Charlotte/Douglas International Airport, in a repeat performance of the computer meltdown that affected thousands of passengers Sunday.

Meanwhile, “closed†signs have been posted on the kiosks.

Michelle Mohr, a spokeswoman for US Airways, said the airline hopes to have the system working again by late in the day.

Mohr said US Airways’ computer system specialists want to make sure the system will work properly – all the way through the checking-in and ticket-printing process – before the kiosks are restarted.

“About 70 percent of our customers use the self-service kiosks, so this has a major impact on our customers,†Mohr said.

At 8:30 a.m., lines stretched from one end of the Charlotte/Douglas International Airport terminal to the other. Several hundred people also milled outside the terminal, trying to use the curbside check-in service.

But lines were moving briskly, and there were no signs of anger among waiting passengers.

Mohr said the US Airways Internet system is working, and she encouraged passengers to use print their tickets in advance before coming to the airport.

Passengers also are encouraged to arrive at the airport at least two hours before their scheduled departure.

The problem developed Sunday when US Airways switched to a different type of electronic reservation system.

The self-service kiosks at Charlotte’s airport and some other airports were not able to communicate with the mainframe computer system for US Airways. Officials of the airline said the problem developed at several airports, but it was worse in Charlotte than at other sites.

Some passengers had to wait 2½ hours in line Sunday. But airline officials said most passengers eventually made their flights.

US Airways officials said Sunday night they still weren’t sure what had caused the problem. “We don’t know,†US Airways President Scott Kirby said. “It’s hard to pin down.â€

Kirby added, “We hope – and this isn’t a guarantee – that even if the kiosks aren’t working (today), we can check customers in in a decent amount of time.â€

By Sunday night, the self-service kiosks were working sporadically.

The problem surfaced about 4:30 a.m. Sunday, when passengers began experiencing troubles. But US Airways officials kept expecting the problem to be fixed quickly.

By 10:30 a.m., the airline was overwhelmed. Check-in lines at Charlotte/Douglas stretched from one end of the terminal to the other, and back again. US Airways passed out pieces of paper with a hastily typed message: Please go home and try to get a seat on a later flight.

The airline estimated that about 500 people missed their flights, not including those who went home or who made flights that had been delayed.

“It’s a big embarrassment to us,†said Chuck Allen, US Airways director of corporate affairs.

The airline Sunday waived all change fees, which are usually $100 per ticket. It also is offering customers a refund if they missed flights.

The airline has not decided if it will offer compensation to inconvenienced travelers. “We’ve been focused on fixing the problem,†Kirby said.

The kiosk malfunction is part of US Airways’ effort to become a single airline, by fully integrating the old US Airways with its merger partner, America West.

As part of the merger, the airline adopted a single reservations platform – the Shares system used by America West. US Airways had used a rival system called Sabre. The kiosk problems were mostly in the eastern U.S., where the old US Airways was dominant. Those kiosks used the old Sabre system.

In preparation for the switch, US Airways had dispatched staff from the old America West who are familiar with Shares to Charlotte and several other key airports. The airline also had additional employees scheduled to work Sunday and even more today, because Mondays are busier travel days.

It wasn’t enough in Charlotte.

One anticipated problem was that not all agents were fast on the new reservations system. US Airways had been training employees on Shares by using a computer program that mimics the new system, even while still working in Sabre. But some agents were slower on the new system.

Passengers were upset about the lines – and by the lack of information from the airline. “I don’t even know where the end of the lines is,†David Culp, a Florence (S.C.) man who was trying to get to San Diego, said Sunday morning. “No one is telling us anything.â€

Trying to ease the Charlotte problems, the airline was able to turn on a handful of kiosks about 11 a.m. It also opened up some of its unusede counter space and began checking in passengers manually. An agent would review a passenger’s itinerary and issue a temporary boarding pass, allowing the passenger to get through the security checkpoint and formally check in at the gate.

By mid-afternoon, with lines more manageable with 30 to 45 minute wait times, US Airways turned off its kiosks again for more testing. Technicians were trying to make sure the software was working under all conditions – such as when passengers check in by name, flight number, of Dividend Miles account number.

IF YOU’RE FLYING TODAY:

Arrive two hours early if you have to see an agent.

Use Internet check-in at http://www.usairways.com.

Use curbside services for check-in or checking baggage.
 
From what I have read so far the big problem is the kiosks not online fast enough.

But I would hardly call it a meltdown.

THERE WAS A MELTDOWN IN CLT! When you pass out slips of paper advising the hundreds of waiting passengers to go home and try again tomorrow IT IS A MELTDOWN! WHEN YOU HAVE 2-3 HOURS WAITS JUST TO CHECK IN>>>ITS A MELTDOWN! I'm not sure where you work or what you do but if you want to see what all the noise is about, come to CLT.
 
My sympathy is extended...

So much for progress..

Dougie should be on the east not WEST>
 
My sympathy is extended...

So much for progress..

Dougie should be on the east not WEST>

Yes, and I agree, this was a meltdown on the East side. This needs to get out there so customers can make informed decisions.
 

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