CWA Tentative Agreement?

[Dont call me Shirley]

AFAIK, the EMB / CRJ thing is some odd side agreement between CWA and the company. This was never voted upon or even publicized. As it was explained to me by a regional CWA rep, the side agreement calls for EMB-170/5 to be treated as "mainline". This allow for them to park at mainline gates (PHL and elsewhere) and be worked by mainline CWA agents. In outstations, they count as mainline toward the four mainline flights a day provision and keeps the company from "expressing" a station.. CRJ-700/900s, while having almost the same number of seats, are considered "express" and can be worked by PDT (or other vendor). At CLT, they park at express gates and (I believe) worked by PDT agents. I do not know about the details of this side agreement or how long it runs. .

Although the scope clause of the CWA is not as strong as it could be, it is better than those at other carriers. Look at how many UAL stations have been --- and are being outsourced. Outsourced stations can have no more than four mainline (or EMB-170 class) flights. At least, when a US station is outsourced, it is(currently) within the US Airways Group, better than going to an OAL or outside vendor (like Swissport).

For the new contract, I believe that CWA should draw the line at any aircraft type with more than 50 seats. Sadly, the battle for <50 seats has been lost. But the industry is trending away from those. 70+ seat types must be protected. This is vital for outstation people as well as for those in hubs.

If anyone has more details on the side agreement, please share the info,

 

[737823]

Thanks for the clarification in your post.

Josh

 

[john john]

Outsourced stations can have no more than four mainline (or EMB-170 class) flights. At least, when a US station is outsourced, it is(currently) within the US Airways Group, better than going to an OAL or outside vendor (like Swissport).

No more that TWO mainline

 

[FLYUSAIRWAYS]

So if our station has 1 airbus and 3 Republic 170/175s are we safe from being expressed under the current contract??? Thanks

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

So if our station has 1 airbus and 3 Republic 170/175s are we safe from being expressed under the current contract??? Thanks

You are. As long as the side agreement remains in place. Now if they switch those EMBs to CRJ-700/900s...

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

No more that TWO mainline

You are right!

"Never Mind" - Emily Latella

 

[usa1]

IM skeptical of a company that disrespects an employee group so much that they only provide a 3% contribution toward their 401K. And doesn't offer any kind of match, offering little hope of any real retirement someday. That said, I have read the TA and I don't see any real evil intent in it. AA has a lot of vendors and there is no way to replace them before the merger. Our main goal is to vote the IBT/CWA in after the merger. And then it's time for the CWA/IBT to play hardball on our new contract.

 

[joggerhss]

IM skeptical of a company that disrespects an employee group so much that they only provide a 3% contribution toward their 401K. And doesn't offer any kind of match, offering little hope of any real retirement someday. That said, I have read the TA and I don't see any real evil intent in it. AA has a lot of vendors and there is no way to replace them before the merger. Our main goal is to vote the IBT/CWA in after the merger. And then it's time for the CWA/IBT to play hardball on our new contract.

You are so wrong! Us could have negotiated months ago with CWA/IBT for a smooth seemless transition. It's not our problem if the company now comes to us at the 11th hour and wants it oneway! I see evil intent...VENDOR is an evil word! Listening to the confrence call the other day, Ron said that in the next negotiation they will try and have the word VENDOR taken out of the contract???? Why would we vote on this just to have it taken out and have to give up something??? How does this TA make sense to anyone?

 

[psa8979]

When is the vote for accepting contracting out PS work at LCC/AMR Group ? No DBP? And below Industry Wage Rates ?

 

[28yrsnojob]

Lcc has to cut costs,they need to lower there cost per departure
in small to medeium cities to compete with Delta and United, otherwise this whole thing is for not. Stock holders want a return
on their investment or nobody has a job to go to.

 

[robbedagain]

past 6 quarters have seen us make money over money fees included

 

[FLYUSAIRWAYS]

Maybe the DOJ Doesn't like the word VENDORS either.

 

[FLYUSAIRWAYS]

I doubt that we will even be voting next week after todays announcement.

 

[700UW]

The announcement has nothing to do with your pos LOA.

 

[john john]

The announcement has nothing to do with your pos LOA.

If there is no merger it does