Death Panels

[RDU Jetblast]

What kind of schmuck?

A very immature kind of schmuck.

 

[RDU Jetblast]

I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Me neither. That's why I called him a schmuck instead. .

 

[southwind]

What does god have to do with morality? Can anyone have their deity in the public sector or just the christian god?

How 'bout we use "THE GOD" this nation was built around ?

Don't like it...............homeschool or send you kid to a private school !

 

[southwind]

OH horse crap. You call it moral to force a person to suffer needlessly? You call it moral to force your beliefs on someone else? I got news for you. It's my life not yours. You have no right to interview. Republicans cannot seem to understand this simple concept. You think your morality is the only one.

So you call it moral for the government to determine when your no longer a viable commodity to them and "THEY" pull the plug?

 

[Ms Tree]

I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Simply because he wishes to force his immoral POV on others which would cause immeasurable suffering. I only wish for him what he wishes for others.

 

[Ms Tree]

How 'bout we use "THE GOD" this nation was built around ?

Don't like it...............homeschool or send you kid to a private school !

No need. There is this thing called a Constitution that protects this country from religious zealots such as your self. It was written by deists and theist to make sure that religion was not forced on people and that all people are to be treated equally.

 

[Ms Tree]

So you call it moral for the government to determine when your no longer a viable commodity to them and "THEY" pull the plug?

It must be nice to be able to argue from a POV in which reality plays no part.

Can you show me one instance where a country that allows for euthanasia has denied care to a person against their wishes? Not insurance companies because anyone can find those examples but one instance where the government of any country has denied care.

 

[southwind]

No need. There is this thing called a Constitution that protects this country from religious zealots such as your self. It was written by deists and theist to make sure that religion was not forced on people and that all people are to be treated equally.

Who said I was a zealot ? You tell me, since progressives, ACLU and Liberals have pushed their agenda, is the U.S. better ? Is crime down? Are mass murders down? How's the jobs market ? Does the peaceful religion of Islam now respect our views? How's the economy? Are your taxes going up after the first? Are you paying your "Fair Share"? Or are you just concerned with marrying your partner ?

It must be nice to be able to argue from a POV in which reality plays no part.

Can you show me one instance where a country that allows for euthanasia has denied care to a person against their wishes? Not insurance companies because anyone can find those examples but one instance where the government of any country has denied care.

We have to pass it, in order to find out what's in it ..................more to follow !

 

[Ms Tree]

Who said I was a zealot ? You tell me, since progressives, ACLU and Liberals have pushed their agenda, is the U.S. better ? Is crime down? Are mass murders down? How's the jobs market ? Does the peaceful religion of Islam now respect our views? How's the economy? Are your taxes going up after the first? Are you paying your "Fair Share"? Or are you just concerned with marrying your partner ?


We have to pass it, in order to find out what's in it ..................more to follow !

You are the one b!tching about god being taken out of everything. You are the one who seems to want to force your morality on others. I call that a zealot.

One has nothing to do with the other. Can you give an example of a ACLU case that cause any of the things that you mention and was in violation of the COTUS. Keep in mind that the ACLU does not make law, it only brings cases to court and asks that the law be applied. Secondly, the ACLU has fought for numerous conservative causes as well.

I realize that reality and you do not get along too well, but if you could provide specific examples that would be nice.

Still waiting for an example of euthanasia against ones will. The bill has been passed. Please feel free to post a link to the part(s) of the law which support your theory.

 

[southwind]

Tell this Woman we don't need God !

[background=#ffffff]On Friday December 14, Becky Kowalski suffered what she called the 'worst day of my life' when she found out her seven-year-old son had been gunned down at his elementary school.
But on Sunday, just two days later, she experienced the 'best day of my life' when the boy, Chase, came to her in a vision and assured her his life had not been taken for nothing.

Becky has claimed that the boy's visit assured her that a fund set up in his honour would save lives, change building codes, foster gun control and 'bring God back to America.'
She said that while the Chase Kowalski Scholarship Fund is still in the early stages, 'after I received that vision from Chase, my sadness left me and I have been strong since'.[/background]

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[Ms Tree]

So you have nothing.

Im so surprised. I lost family in the concentration camps. No need for a god. Man screws up enough on his own with out the help of some magic in the sky.

 

[muff daddy]

No need. There is this thing called a Constitution that protects this country from religious zealots such as your self. It was written by deists and theist to make sure that religion was not forced on people and that all people are to be treated equally.

But the point here is it is the ideology of the Progressive Left that will be forced upon the sick and elderly because they do not contribute to society anymore.

 

[KCFlyer]

But the point here is it is the ideology of the Progressive Left that will be forced upon the sick and elderly because they do not contribute to society anymore.

Compare that to the right who would prefer that the poor just suffer and die off young since they are just lowlife moochers on society.

 

[RDU Jetblast]

But the point here is it is the ideology of the Progressive Left that will be forced upon the sick and elderly because they do not contribute to society anymore.

What the hell are you tAlking about? You pick up on tid bits from the fringe that have no legs and build a case of fear painting a whole swath of people as bad guys when we ( left leaners) think that the fringe is nuts too. And we know they have no legs so we ignore them. You really need more diversity in you news sources.

 

[muff daddy]

What the hell are you tAlking about? You pick up on tid bits from the fringe that have no legs and build a case of fear painting a whole swath of people as bad guys when we ( left leaners) think that the fringe is nuts too. And we know they have no legs so we ignore them. You really need more diversity in you news sources.

A couple of my all time fav's,

His ideas in this regard were probably spelled out most clearly in an article Dr. Emanuel co-authored in The Lancet, in January, 2009, which proposed a system of healthcare rationing based on what he and co-authors call the “complete lives system.” Most notably, the complete lives system proposes rationing healthcare on the basis of age, in a way that frankly “discriminates against older people” (The Lancet, Vol 373, p 429).

President Obama seems to think too many seniors are getting these procedures. At a town hall debate in 2009, he told a woman "maybe you're better off not having the surgery but taking the painkiller."
Obama,
Just take a pill.

Courtesy of Investor’s Business Daily, we find …

Obama Administration Dooms Seniors To Painful Aging

On Oct. 1, the Obama administration started awarding bonus points to hospitals that spend the least on elderly patients. It will result in fewer knee replacements, hip replacements, angioplasty, bypass surgery and cataract operations. These are the five procedures that have transformed aging for older Americans. They used to languish in wheelchairs and nursing homes due to arthritis, cataracts and heart disease. Now they lead active lives.

Former Senator Tom Daschle wants to “encourage” elderly patients in need of surgeries to seek “other options.”
During a recent radio interview, the former Senate Democrat admitted that if an elderly patient might need a heart transplant, that patient should be encouraged to seek options such as oral medication or “hospice.” For those unfamiliar with hospice, and as the radio host rightly points out, “hospice is where you go to die.”*Remember, Obama nominated Daschle for health and human services secretary.