Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[fatherabraham]

Any news from the DCA MOU presentation today? I'm sure they were asked about the seniority process, which seems purposely vague at this point.

WCF,

Joe & Pete said that a 3 way list is agreed upon start of negotiations & failure leads to M/B with a 3 way list.

FA

 

[3dtv]

WCF,

Joe & Pete said that a 3 way list is agreed upon start of negotiations & failure leads to M/B with a 3 way list.

FA

What an Fing lie! "Joe and Pete" SAID NOTHING. It's a NAC presentation and all the reps said was please sign in.

You have been totally busted.

 

[flyer63]

No kidding, it's no wonder they want the merger so bad. They've got a clueless, classless, moron at the helm.

Bean

Ugly paint job. Would look good with our flag on tail

 

[dca319]

WCF,

Joe & Pete said that a 3 way list is agreed upon start of negotiations & failure leads to M/B with a 3 way list.

FA

What!?! I asked that same question and they said nothing a out any three way. They wouldn't even speculate on the lists at all. I think your full of it FA.

 

[westcoastflyer]

What!?! I asked that same question and they said nothing a out any three way. They wouldn't even speculate on the lists at all. I think your full of it FA.

I think that all of the interested parties (APA, USAPA, the creditors and bond holders, and both companies) believe that it is important get this MOU passed so they can quantify the costs going forward. Bringing up the seniority issue now would just add a lot of uncertainty, and a lot of continued in-fighting, hence the vagueness of it being settled thru M/Bond a little later on.

 

[dca319]

It was stupid of FA to even post that.

 

[Metroyet]

And your the guy who will take way less than your worth, what a low self esteem. I do however respect everyones right to a vote. There is a reason we are the lowest paid in the industry, no unity your a perfect example, willing to settle for scraps.

VOTE NO!!!! All of you can. IT WON'T MATTER. USAPA WAS SHUT OUT. Shut out for very good reasons...you all are incapable of any productive function. NOBODY gives a #### what USAPA wants/says/does. This is what total irrelevance looks like. WELL DONE!!!

 

[cleardirect]

Bean, I have 32 yrs here and I am still the lowest paid.

Do you think it has anything to do with the reps you support and your voting position?


Dumba$$

 

[cleardirect]

And your the guy who will take way less than your worth, what a low self esteem. I do however respect everyones right to a vote. There is a reason we are the lowest paid in the industry, no unity your a perfect example, willing to settle for scraps.

Your definition of unity is screwed up.

To you it is only unity when everyone votes the way you do.

 

[dca319]

Your definition of unity is screwed up.

To you it is only unity when everyone votes the way you do.

I wouldn't worry about him. He's in a very small minority now that has lost the BPR. You'll find the CLT reps gone as well in the near future so their self-destructive attitudes will be nothing more than noise.

 

[cleardirect]

Beancounter, on 17 January 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

. How do you think you ended up with LOA93?

Doug Mowery

WRONG!!!!!

What is your single point of usapa?

The reason you are on LOA 93 is because the MAJORITY voted for it.

 

[traderjake]

You'll find the CLT reps gone as well in the near future so their self-destructive attitudes will be nothing more than noise.

I wouldn't count those chickens yet, if it happens I think it's going to be very close.

 

[Metroyet]

luvthe9 and McKee think American should make us whole for everything we lost in the past.

You're surprised? I doubt the West pilots are shocked...the East expected to make up for their shitty careers on the backs of the West from day 1. We all know how we'll that strategy worked. Hopefully there will be some internal Adult supervision this time around.

 

[noDOH4u]

On the phone now not alot of guys impressed with it and yes they say very vague answers, no suprise with a cram down..

Wait a minute. Vague answers with regard to SLI? But I thought you guys have been spewing that Nic is dead, it's going to be a 3 way, etc. etc. etc. If that is the case, why would they be vague at all? They would just come right out and say it. Could it be because being vague is the only way to keep the impending temper tantrum at bay?

Looks like your slam dunk, DOH, 3 way, MB arbitration scenario is not to assured after all.

 

[Claxon]

You're surprised? I doubt the West pilots are shocked...the East expected to make up for their shitty careers on the backs of the West from day 1. We all know how we'll that strategy worked. Hopefully there will be some internal Adult supervision this time around.

Do the math in the past. Then do the math for the future. No hiring on the west side for two more years. East pilots are upgrading. Your lotto ticket expired.

http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/Documents/Employees%20and%20Compensation/AVG%20WAGE%20-%20Pilots%20and%20Copilots.pdf