Dec 2012 / Jan 2013 US Pilots Labor Discussion

[A320 Driver]

Let me guess you voted for LOA 93, when DUI gets done you will wish you had LOA 93 and your COC and Scope, but then again your the one always hoping someone stands up for you because you aint willing to do it yourself! As I stated perfect, No sense of self worth, OUR ADVISORS, luv that one , isn't that what the APA said at their first offer, your justification at your lack ball less thinking is simply laughable!

No, as I have stated before, I voted against LOA93. It was a failed process that ignored our advisors and we paid the price for it. What is laughable is another group of pilots, rallied around a few idiots that think they know more than the professionals who negotiate for us. You haven't learned a damn thing over the last few years of LOA93. THAT was when we were led down the primrose path, not now. We will be on APA's Green Book if this merger takes place. Of that there is NO doubt. Fight it if you like but you cannot win. We can either be part of the group that negotiates what the final product looks like or sit on the sidelines whining while APA makes the decisions for us. As for you, do whatever you like.

 

[Claxon]

So I guess the "give me DOH or give me death" clown is now in office? Hmmm. 3 way no way baby... Put that fantasy to rest.
Lets just go full speed ahead with the Angry FO DOH jihad- you know, stick to our roots and "principles" and stuff like that.

Beats a bunch of Trans States trust babies demanding your job. Let the games begin. PHL has got a bunch of good ones in there. No more Weidner collapsing to the PHX jihaadists. Especially Simmons. What a total wack job.

 

[Claxon]

This MOU shows you what happens when you put a prior check pilot at the helm. The compass boys played a major roll in putting Hummel/Bradford/Smyser/Streble and Weidner in position to birth this pos. They were smarter than everybody! Good luck to all of us.

Hate

And the Westoffs are so focused on stealing your positions, they will vote for anyone who helps them heist your seniority. At least they go down first under the APA. PHX is done now, totally done.

 

[Claxon]

Greeter you guys had the recall going on the CLT guys. Boy, did you get your clocks cleaned on that one. Come on, you are not fooling anyone on here. We all know who you guys are just like you know who we are. Tell Bradford your good buddy he is a real disappointment.

Hate

My brother said the entire CLT Recall was run by Munn, and the vote down is total validation of the no cooperation with the PHX seniority thieves and Munn. Good job. Now get rid of that idiot Hummel and get the DOH handed to Parker as it should. I can't wait to see Cleardirect wet her pants when that goes down.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

No, as I have stated before, I voted against LOA93. It was a failed process that ignored our advisors and we paid the price for it. What is laughable is another group of pilots, rallied around a few idiots that think they know more than the professionals who negotiate for us. You haven't learned a damn thing over the last few years of LOA93. THAT was when we were led down the primrose path, not now. We will be on APA's Green Book if this merger takes place. Of that there is NO doubt. Fight it if you like but you cannot win. We can either be part of the group that negotiates what the final product looks like or sit on the sidelines whining while APA makes the decisions for us. As for you, do whatever you like. You and the roving bands of malcontents that stalk the PHL crew room looking for pilots to hassle.

Ok your emotional I get it, You are correct we were led down the primrose path alright, :FEAR, to the companies less than first counter offer, welcome LOA 93, approved imagine that, I stalk the PHL crewroom ? Hassle my fellow pilots? Sorry you have me confused with DUBARRY! Typical, IF YOUR NOT WILLING TO FIGHT, your option is lose!, Obviously you have chosen!

 

[Hate2fly]

A320,
Roland and Pat are not professional negotiators. They are RLA experts. Remember back when you guys were trashing Cleary all hours of the day? Streble and the compass boys were telling everyone the union was going broke. Surely you remember. We had 4.2 million in the bank. Roland was brought in here for the Phoenix (Silver) court room drama. He was never really meant to be professional negotiator. I am sure we will need his expertise for a long time.

Hate

 

[A320 Driver]

Ok your emotional I get it, You are correct we were led down the primrose path alright, :FEAR, to the companies less than first counter offer, welcome LOA 93, approved imagine that, I stalk the PHL crewroom ? Hassle my fellow pilots? Sorry you have me confused with DUBARRY!

Actually, there were several counters to LOA93. It played out exactly the way our advisors said it would.

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Im putting the MOU over/under : in favor of at 68%....I'm saying over, a bird in the hand...

I would guess your correct, bottom line do not think this merger will go down as advertised by the "HYPE CROWD"!

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Actually, there were several counters to LOA93. It played out exactly the way our advisors said it would.

Well it played out because of a vote! Not because of an ADVISOR! remember those were ALPA advisors and ALPA MEC chairman thought the airline industry would be better < without> a USAIR in it! FUD, FUD, FUD, yea you voted for LOA 93! Your buddy LEE MOCH! You bought into the hype and your financial situation dictated your vote for it! SUZI ORMAN has some great tapes to help you!

 

[A320 Driver]

Well it played out because of a vote! Not because of an ADVISOR! remember those were ALPA advisors and ALPA MEC chairman thought the airline industry would be better < without> a USAIR in it! FUD, FUD, FUD, yea you voted for LOA 93! Your buddy LEE MOCH!

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm emotional????? LOL!!!

 

[A320 Driver]

Your buddy LEE MOCH!

Who is LEE MOCH?

You bought into the hype and your financial situation dictated your vote for it!

I voted against it and you have no idea what my finances are.

SUZI ORMAN has some great tapes to help you!

I guess you have some experience with that then. Are you offering to loan me your tapes?

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm emotional????? LOL!!!

Well with all those exclamations and question marks, one would only interpret the obvious. MM

 

[MUTATIS MUTANDIS]

Who is LEE MOCH? I voted against it and you have no idea what my finances are. I guess you have some experience with that then. Are you offering to loan me your tapes?

Nice diversion technique, Ignorance we believe it!

 

[A320 Driver]

Nice diversion technique, Ignorance we believe it!

No ignorance intended on counts one and two. I was being a smart a$$ on the last one though....you got me.

 

[Walmartgreeter]

Greeter you guys had the recall going on the CLT guys. Boy, did you get your clocks cleaned on that one. Come on, you are not fooling anyone on here. We all know who you guys are just like you know who we are. Tell Bradford your good buddy he is a real disappointment.

Hate

Yeah Hate, I will tell him thanks but no thanks for keeping the NIC off this property. And we will have a good laugh in memory of all the fine elected union work you have done for this group. I was in full support of the recall, and voted accordingly. That's it, but who cares, as you say they "cleaned "somebody's" clock." The real work starts after the vote tomorrow. If it fails you won't have to worry about me (and probably most of my partners in crime) sticking around. I, for one, will be pulling a David Bates. I asked MM earlier, why did McKee, Crimi, DeWitt, DiOrio, and Martin NOT use the roll call? They could have have "stuck it to the man." Why? Their lack of action speaks to intent. Can you answer? Greeter