Delays/cancellations On The Climb

[jergee]

From nwa.com site, seems like maintenance problems are starting to affect schedule. Take a look at DTW-MSP for instance.

How long before NWA takes down "flight and gate status" from website?

 

[Stratocruiser]

From nwa.com site, seems like maintenance problems are starting to affect schedule. Take a look at DTW-MSP for instance.

How long before NWA takes down "flight and gate status" from website?

[post="290510"][/post]​

I've gotten quite a kick out of reading the "Flight new from Joe" on AMFA Local 33's website. While I don't disagree that NWA schedule integrity is well below normal, I think the $176M question is how much of that is due to having to catch-up on all the maintenance AMFA members didn't do during the last few weeks of their "employment."

 

[jergee]

So far this morning, NWA appears to be running on schedule for the most part

 

[proAMFA]

A regular schedule or a reduced fall schedule?

 

[eolesen]

A regular schedule or a reduced fall schedule?

[post="290849"][/post]​

Does it matter?... AMFA obviously didn't shut NWA down as promised. And every plane that leaves and gets their customers to where they're going further erodes whatever leverage you still have at the bargaining table (if any).

 

[High Iron]

Does it matter?... AMFA obviously didn't shut NWA down as promised. And every plane that leaves and gets their customers to where they're going further erodes whatever leverage you still have at the bargaining table (if any).

[post="290854"][/post]​

Yes it does matter. It impacts their bottom line. Also, the system is that much more taxed as the mtx issues start to add up and snowball. Claiming that they ( NWA ) are "winning" ( so to speak ) based only on the fact they're flying at all is specious.

 

[aafsc]

I'll give it about a month to see which side is victorious. It can go either way, 50/50. NW has the oldest fleet among the 6 legacies. And older aircraft break a lot more and require a LOT of maintanence. This coupled with the fact that the scabs are still in the "learning curve" works in AMFAs favor. As more and more cycles are put on the planes, more tire, brake, and hydraulic changes will need to be done along with A checks, B checks etc. Of course there are the MELs and odd last minute things like leaking lavs, galleys,etc. What goes in favor of NW is what happened at EAL. At EAL EVERYTHING was done in house, there was nothing farmed out. Yet, EAL was able to staff it's heavy and line maintenance in a half-assed manner. But they were still able to fly for about 2 years after the strike. But their maintanence wasn't pretty because they were cannibalizing aircraft for parts. I can clearly remember about 10 L-10-11s in MIA with no engines on them. Also, they cannibalized some of the 757s for the avionics. Nw has been farming work out for the past couple of years so they basically have to just worry about line mx. If AMFA wins, this would be a huge victory for them and their "strength in skill" dogma. If NW wins, it would be a victory for the "strength in numbers" line of thought. But whatever happens here, in my opnion, will have a profound effect on everyone.

 

[TheDog2004]

AMFA has already lost. They just don't know it yet.

 

[FA Mikey]

A pilot or flight attendant strike will be judged in the first couple days. A maintenance strike with a company trying to fill the place with low ball replacements, will have to be judged over time.

There is simply no way, that these new and too few people will be able to keep up. The MEL's are adding up fast. As the FAA time limits elapse; on the MEL's and planes are fixed or grounded. Will then will know how well both sides are fairing.

Don't count NWA maintenance out yet. Even though the pilots and FA's didn't walk out. They may now be loading up the log book with repairs that they might other wise let slide. Just because the other groups are not out on the front line. Does not mean they are not sympathetic or doing there own group or individual small part.

 

[local 12 proud]

AMFA has already lost. They just don't know it yet.

[post="290885"][/post]​

Oh really? And just where and how did you come to this conclusion, from some hotline psychic?

 

[TheDog2004]

Oh really? And just where and how did you come to this conclusion, from some hotline psychic?

[post="290917"][/post]​

No. I came to this conclusion because AMFA has failed to shut the airline down. They have failed to get any of the other work groups to take any sympathetic work action, Northwest has been able to successfully replace them, and - worst of all - they have been replaced by their own 'union brothers' for many tasks.

It was over the moment the 1500 'scabs' and the rest of the Northwest employees showed up for work Saturday morning.

Why is this so hard to comprehend?

All of the takes saying "it takes a while for the effects to be felt" are ludicrous and the last hope wishful thinking of a group who just got used.

Someone needs to kick the AMFA leadership in the crotch. They deserve it far more than the dufus management fools who got Northwest in this problem in the first place.

 

[keeptheodds]

USA Today say NW flies undaunted. Airport officials agree.

 

[Dizel8]

The MEL count keep rising, guess you are not quite as good as you thought!

 

[FA Mikey]

The clock is running on your MEL's. Will see how many planes are being grounded becuse of lack of maintenance, over the next couple days.

Time will show us shortly how bad a job the scabs are doing for NWA and what a dis-service to the flying public and the real NWA mechanics.

 

[TheDog2004]

If the strike starts to really have an impact on the bottom line, then Northwest will file for bankruptcy and have more options in order to stay solvent.

Northwest has a lot more cards to play and I think they have no intention of ever letting AMFA back.

I just hope AMFA prepared their people for a long layoff - both psychologically and economically.