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delldude said:
no speaky dah enklieesh?? 🙁
Nope...fat fingers on the keyboard. After drafting a response (rather lengthy), a series of keystrokes highlighted, then deleted everything I wrote. So I was trying to test a combination of keystrokes to see if I could find what happened. One set inadvertantly submitted the post. But if one doesn't try, one may never find out. It has since been edited. In other words...I made a mistake...something you'll never hear our president say.
 
NeedForSpeedNFS said:
Flawed intel,by the way, beause our intelligence agencies were completely decimated under the Clinton Administration. Especially, agents "in the field", or "bad guys". Now, before all you Bush haters attack me, I'm not blaming 9/11 on Clinton.....Just pointing out a fact!!!! All the info is out there, go find it.. read it... learn it.... become informed, dont be a tool,(or fool), of the POLITICAL Democrat machine!!!!!!
Another extreme right wing lie. According to the non-partisan Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania, the intelligence budget cut was only 1%, and it was passed by a Republican controlled congress.

Bush Strains Facts Re: Kerry's Plan To Cut Intelligence Funding in '90's

P.S. Before you start with your vitriolic attack of lies and misrepresentations, remember that Ronald Reagan, while he was president, spent every New Year's eve as a guest of Walter Annenberg (the late TV Guide publisher who founded that public policy center) at his estate in Rancho Mirage, California.
 
Ronald Reagan's greatest achievement, ending the Cold War, is most remarkable because he had waged the Cold War so aggressively.

As CBS News Correspondent Wyatt Andrews reports, by Reagan's third year in office he had spent $1 trillion building up the U.S. military.

Europe was in turmoil over new missiles he ordered aimed at the Soviet Union, and a tough sounding Reagan promised communism was going down.

"Freedom and democracy, which will leave Marxism-Leninism on the ash heap of history," he said in a 1983 speech.

Then history gave Reagan a partner. In 1985, Reagan and the new Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev met in Geneva. Gorbachev recalls their mutual distrust.

"I told my colleagues Reagan was a dinosaur, while he called me a hardline Bolshevik," says Gorbachev.

But the two men approved a simple statement that a nuclear war could not be won. And Gorbachev remembers feeling that this hawk, Reagan, actually meant what he said.

"You know, you really can't explain it," says Gorbachev. "I felt something and he felt something -- that we could talk to each other."

You cannot overstate the tension in the world at the time. The U.S. and Soviet Union each had 25,000 nuclear warheads aimed at the other. Stepping back from that kind of threat wasn't thought possible.

And yet stepping back is what they did. Astonishingly, for two days in Reyjavik, Iceland, Reagan and Gorbachev discussed eliminating nuclear weapons.

The meeting broke up badly when Reagan would not give up his dream of a defensive shield called Star Wars.

Reagan's Secretary of State George Shultz recalls the president was mad.

But Shultz said the anger outside the meeting masked the huge accomplishment inside.

"They had seen the president's resolve, but we had seen their bottom line," says Shultz. "We knew they were ready to cut strategic arms in half."

What followed was a succession of nuclear arms agreements.

Reagan himself would have credited others, starting with Gorbachev, as the Cold War ended.

Reagan foresaw taking communism to the ash heap, but to all of his admirers, every day without the threat of nuclear annihilation dawns thanks to the skill of Ronald Reagan.

:up:
 
local 12 proud said:
Ronald Reagan's greatest achievement, ending the Cold War, is most remarkable because he had waged the Cold War so aggressively.

As CBS News Correspondent Wyatt Andrews reports, by Reagan's third year in office he had spent $1 trillion building up the U.S. military.

Europe was in turmoil over new missiles he ordered aimed at the Soviet Union, and a tough sounding Reagan promised communism was going down.

"Freedom and democracy, which will leave Marxism-Leninism on the ash heap of history," he said in a 1983 speech.

Then history gave Reagan a partner. In 1985, Reagan and the new Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev met in Geneva. Gorbachev recalls their mutual distrust.

"I told my colleagues Reagan was a dinosaur, while he called me a hardline Bolshevik," says Gorbachev.

But the two men approved a simple statement that a nuclear war could not be won. And Gorbachev remembers feeling that this hawk, Reagan, actually meant what he said.

"You know, you really can't explain it," says Gorbachev. "I felt something and he felt something -- that we could talk to each other."

You cannot overstate the tension in the world at the time. The U.S. and Soviet Union each had 25,000 nuclear warheads aimed at the other. Stepping back from that kind of threat wasn't thought possible.

And yet stepping back is what they did. Astonishingly, for two days in Reyjavik, Iceland, Reagan and Gorbachev discussed eliminating nuclear weapons.

The meeting broke up badly when Reagan would not give up his dream of a defensive shield called Star Wars.

Reagan's Secretary of State George Shultz recalls the president was mad.

But Shultz said the anger outside the meeting masked the huge accomplishment inside.

"They had seen the president's resolve, but we had seen their bottom line," says Shultz. "We knew they were ready to cut strategic arms in half."

What followed was a succession of nuclear arms agreements.

Reagan himself would have credited others, starting with Gorbachev, as the Cold War ended.

Reagan foresaw taking communism to the ash heap, but to all of his admirers, every day without the threat of nuclear annihilation dawns thanks to the skill of Ronald Reagan.

:up:
Then there's Bush..a "hot war" cowboy who only talks to those who disagree with him (the Pope for example) if it can gain him support on a different issue (abortion in this case). Thank heavens W wasn't president during the 80's...mutually assured destruction would have come to pass because, in his words, those thugs were a threat to democracy.
 
local 12 proud, Jun 19 2004, 09:38 PM: "every day without the threat of nuclear annihilation dawns thanks to the skill of Ronald Reagan."

local 12 proud, Jun 19 2004, 04:40 AM: "Terrorists are "all but certain" to set off a radiological weapon in the United States"

Thanks Ronnie!
 
I haven't visited this forum in a while, as such I haven't read all 27 pages of this string, but.............

I'm voting Bush unless the Democratics happen to nominate Leiberman. Since Kerry seems to be the presumptive nominee, I guess that I'm voting Bush. I just can't see us winning a war on terrorism with Kerry at the helm.

sky

BTW, Bush won the first time. I did read the first few pages 🙂
 
skybolt said:
I just can't see us winning a war on terrorism with Kerry at the helm.
Don't hold your breath on Bush winning the war on terrorism either. Sure, there might not be another attack on the scale of the WTC, but I don't doubt that there will be future attacks in the US. And worldwide? There will be continued attacks on our soldiers, there will continue to be attacks on individual American citizens living in the mid east. There most likely will be an attack or two on Britain. Unless Bush's strategy is to carpet bomb the entire mid east, ridding the world not only of the terrorist leaders, but the Arab family of 4 who had no part at all in terrorist activities - and even then, there still are terrorist members living in the UK, US, South America, Europe. What will he do about them? Perhaps extermination of an entire race is in order.

Yeah, Kerry might not win the war on terrorism. Neither will Bush. But I'll betcha that Kerry might be able to work with our (former??) allies and enlist them in the war on terror. Remember, those (former??) allies don't welcome terrorism or terrorists, they just disagreed with an invasion of Iraq. And they were told "our way or the highway" and went on to become the butt of late night TV jokes. And as much as I opposed the invasion of Iraq, I pretty much know that we're in it for the long haul. I believe Kerry knows it, too. It's a "no win" situation. As long as we are there, there will be resentment among radical Arabs. If we pull out, there will be civil war in Iraq. And the American's will get the blame for it, and if we don't step in to stop it, resentment against the Americans will grow even greater.
 
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What is really lurking behind the many faces of John Kerry?

That question is answered definitively in the newest blockbuster offering from WorldNetDaily's publishing wing, WND Books.

"The Many Faces of John Kerry" by David N. Bossie is a hard-hitting, ruthlessly honest political biography of the 2004 Democratic nominee for president of the United States.

Subtitled "Why this Massachusetts Liberal is Wrong for America," the book provides readers with the hidden truth about the man polls predict will be the next American president. It fully exposes Kerry's peculiar voting record; his early naval discharge so he could protest the Vietnam War; his self-contradictory positions on such vital issues as health care, education and campaign finance; and the shady political dealings he'd rather voters not know about.

Author David N. Bossie is the perfect man to expose Kerry definitively. As former chief investigator for the U.S. House of Representatives Committee on Government Reform and Oversight, during Bill Clinton's two terms as president Bossie led investigations ranging from the Whitewater land deal to the illegal foreign money schemes in the 1996 Clinton re-election campaign and the illegal transfer of dual-use technology to China.

Bossie authored the recent blockbuster "Intelligence Failure: How Clinton's National Security Policy Set the Stage for 9/11," and also co-authored "Slick Willie: Why America Cannot Trust Bill Clinton" in 1992 as well as "Prince Albert: The Life and Lies of Al Gore" in 2000.

Including an exclusive and revealing jailhouse interview with Kerry's former finance chairman, Bossie has the insider's access and the hard-nosed investigator's savvy to ferret out the truth and present it to readers in a gripping, no-nonsense style. He lays bare Kerry's flip-flops, lies and duplicitous stances on the war in Iraq, defense spending, tax cuts, Medicare and corporate greed and corruption – finally unveiling all of Kerry's public and private faces.

Here's just some of what you'll learn in "The Many Faces of John Kerry":


Kerry claims he has "never taken a dime" of political action committee money, but he has taken millions of dollars in special interest funds.

Kerry has criticized the Bush administration for pursuing economic policies which encourage corporations to send jobs overseas, while his wife's own Heinz Corp. has done the same thing – but he's remained silent about that.

Kerry intervened in the Senate to keep open a major loophole that allowed an insurance company to divert millions from the nation's most expensive construction project – then received tens of thousand of dollars in donations from the same company.

Kerry managed to secure an early political endorsement from a major conservation group after the organization received a substantial donation from the Heinz Family Foundation, headed by Kerry's wife.

Kerry decries "special interest" politics and the influence of lobbyists, but he himself has had more than 200 contacts with lobbyists since 1989, many of which had business before his Senate committees.

Kerry has championed his Vietnam service and belittled President Bush for getting an early discharge from the Texas Air National Guard to pursue politics, but Kerry also requested – and received – an early discharge from the U.S. Navy so he could run for Congress on an "anti-war platform."

Kerry has supported nearly every tax increase or piece of legislation that would repeal tax cuts during his 20-plus years in the Senate, and is vowing to scale back tax cuts passed by the Bush administration.
If you really want to understand like never before how as president, John Kerry will jeopardize America's War on Terror, pack the federal courts with activist judges, gut U.S intelligence-gathering and military capabilities, destroy American jobs, endanger the U.S. health care system, and increase Americans' tax burden to levels higher than any other time in American history – the answers are all here, in "The Many Faces of John Kerry."
 
March 17, 2004
John Kerry - A Liar or a Traitor?
John Kerry claims that he has had face-to-face conversations with leaders of other nations that tell him they want Bush out of office.

TRANSLATED: John Kerry claims that he has collaborated with foreign nation leaders who are seeking to oust the leader of the United States.

Although John Kerry cannot prove he has had these conversations, major newspapers such as the Washington Post is contacting any and all foreign leaders who may have had the opportunity to have face-to-face meetings with Kerry and they all deny Kerry’s claim.
Looks like Kerry is liar until he can prove himself a traitor.
 
Bush has proven himself to be a national disaster - Kerry is still an unknown, and there is no viable third party.

Woopie! What a great system we have.

PS They are both Bonesmen, and millionaires.

Who says the system isn't working?
 
John Kerry - You're a Liar! Vietnam Vet

Submitted by J, L, CR & TJ Morrison


My wife had rotator cuff surgery earlier this year, and the recovery is terribly painful. Then, she developed a staph-epi infection, and they had to cut the same scar open and operate on her again. Just thinking about the pain and anxiety of facing that painful surgery a second time in the same wound, makes me cringe. That experience, however pales in comparison to what I am going through right now, in my heart.

The old hurts are surfacing and the feelings of betrayal by fellow citizens, and their leader stirring them up, are breaking my heart again. I am being cut in the same scar. How did we who served in Vietnam suddenly become cold-blooded killers, torturers, and rapists, of the ilk of the Nazi SS or the Taliban? Most of us were American soldiers who grew up idolizing John Wayne, Roy Rogers, and all the other heroes. That was why I volunteered. But for political expediency, John Kerry has rewritten history, again. After spending only four months in the country of Vietnam, John Kerry testified before Congress in 1971 with these exact words about incidents he supposedly witnessed or heard about from other vets: “They personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam."

I was a green beret officer who volunteered for duty in Vietnam and fought in the thick of it in 1968 and 1969 on a Special Forces A-team on the Ho Chi Minh Trail, just for starters. We were the elite. We saw the most action. Everybody in the world knows that. But we did not just kill people, we built a church, a school, treated illnesses, passed out soap, food, and clothing, and had fun and loving interaction with the indigenous people of Vietnam, just like our boys did in Normandy, Baghdad, Saigon, and everywhere American soldiers ever served. We all gave away our candy bars and rations to kids. Our hearts to oppressed people all over the globe.

My children and grandchildren could read your words, and think those horrendous things about me, Mr. Kerry. You are a bold-faced, unprincipled liar, and a disgrace, and you have dishonored me and all my fellow Vietnam veterans. Sure, there were a couple bad-apples, but I saw none, and I saw it all, and if I did, as an army officer, it was my obligation to stop it, or at the very least report it. Why is there not a single record anywhere of you ever reporting any incidents like this or having the perpetrators arrested? The answer is simple. You are a liar. Your medals and mine are not a free pass for lifetime, Senator Kerry, to bypass character, integrity, and morality. I earn my green beret over and over daily in all aspects of my life.

Eight National Guard green berets, and other National Guard soldiers, have been killed in Iraq and Afghanistan, and you totally dishonored their widows and families by lumping National Guard service in with being a draft-dodger, conscientious objector, and deserter, just so you can try to sabotage the patriotism of our President who proudly served as an Air National Guard jet pilot. I have a son earning his green beret at Fort Bragg right now, and his wife serves honorably in the Air National Guard, just like President Bush did, and I am as proud of her as I am my son. I volunteered for Vietnam and have no problem whatsoever with President Bush being our Commander-In-Chief. In fact, I am proud of him as our leader.

John Kerry, you personally derailed the Vietnam Human Rights Bill, HR2883, in 2001, after it had passed the House by a 411 to 1 vote, and thousands of pro-American Montagnard tribespeople in Vietnam died since then who could have been saved, by you. Earlier, as Chair of the Senate Select Committee on MIA/POW Affairs, you personally quashed the efforts of any and all veterans to report sightings of living POW’s, when you held those reins in Congress. You have fought tooth and nail to push for the US to normalize relations with Vietnam for years. Why, Mr. Kerry? Simple, your first cousin C. Stewart Forbes, CEO, of Colliers International, recently signed a contract with Hanoi, worth BILLIONS of dollars for Collier’s International to become the exclusive real estate representative for the country of Vietnam.

“Hanoi John,â€￾ now that it works for you, you beat your chest about your Vietnam service, but to me, you are a phony, opportunistic, hypocrite. You are one of those politicians that is like a fertilizer machine: all that comes out of you is horse manure, and you are spreading it everywhere.
Medals do not make a man. Morals do.

Don Bendell
Canon City, Colorado

Don Bendell served as an officer in four Special Forces Groups, is a best-selling author with over 1,500,000 copies of his books in print worldwide, a 1995 inductee into the International Karate Hall of Fame, and owns karate schools in southern Colorado.
 
They're both liars. Bush lied thru his teeth about WMD, al Quaida, etc.

His advisors are the bunch identified as the father of lies by Jesus himself.

What else is new?
 
The Secret Life of John Kerry
by Bruce Walker
16 March 2004

Kerry says that we should vote for him because foreign leaders want him to be president, but he will not tell us what these foreign politicians want in return.


John Kerry appears to pass through life quietly observing information critical to the welfare of America and maintaining scrupulous silence until this information can advance what is really important: his political career.

While a commissioned officer in the American military in Vietnam, Kerry solemnly advises Congress that he observed American soldiers routinely commit crimes against humanity. Why did Kerry wait until he was safely out of the military and in the United States to report war crimes? Why did he accept military decorations related to such outrageous behavior? Consider what would we think of a German officer running for Chancellor of West Germany in 1980 who said:

“I was a German officer commanding a squad of soldiers in the German Army on the Eastern Front in 1941. I saw German troops line up and machine gun rows of Jewish men, women and children as my troops marched along. I also personally saw German enlisted men commit many other offenses in violation of international law and the rules of military conduct.â€￾

Why did he not risk his military reputation at the time to save these innocent lives? Why did he not decline the decorations bestowed on him in this campaign? (It has been done before) Where are the official, written reports filed at the time these crimes took placed signed by Officer Kerry? Where is the tender of the resignation of his commission which is all that honor could require of a man who saw what Kerry claims to have seen?

John Kerry thinks that Iraq did not have weapons of mass destruction and that Saddam Hussein was not a terrorist threat and a danger to regional peace. Kerry has served decades in the Senate, which is the branch of Congress most connected with foreign relations.

Why did Kerry not pose his concerns during the eight years of Bill Clinton’s presidency, when Kerry consistently supported the actions of Clinton and the assertions of Clinton which are indistinguishable from what President Bush said before the Iraq war?

Why did Kerry not pose his concerns when Congress was debating whether or not to engage in war with Saddam Hussein? Why send American troops in harm’s way for a war that Kerry did not really believe was necessary? How does that make Kerry any different from LBJ or the Democrat senators who supported Johnson’s War in 1964?

Kerry was quiet about war crimes until he was safely out of the military and safely in America. Kerry was quiet about war concerns until after he had voted to send American troops into a war with Iraq. Now Kerry seems to have been quiet again.

Kerry says - or today denies, but implies - that foreign leaders have looked him in the eye and said that they wanted him to be president instead of President Bush. Who are these leaders Senator Kerry? If foreign governments are contacting you privately without the knowledge of the Executive Branch of the American government while America is at war, you have a moral and a legal duty to provide that information to save American lives.

Kerry has a duty to tell Secretary of State Powell about these mysterious revelations. Secretary Powell is politely calling Senator Kerry a liar. Secretary Powell denies that foreign leaders have made these representations. Why should anyone believe Kerry and not believe Secretary of State Powell?

Colin Powell, after all, served honorably under presidents George W. Bush, Bill Clinton and George H. Bush. Kerry voted to confirm Colin Powell as Secretary of State. Colin Powell in 1996 could have strolled without breaking a sweat into the White House which Kerry so desperately craves. Powell, unlike Kerry, put his country before his personal ambition.

Colin Powell, also unlike Kerry, did voice concerns about the approach President Bush was taking before the war began. Colin Powell does not agree with everything the administration has done, but he has not waited until after our soldiers are in combat before voicing those concerns. And, pointedly, he now believes that we have done the right thing.

Now Kerry has advised us that foreign corporate bigwigs want him to be the next President of the United States. Who are these business tycoons? Are they the same ones who Democrats believe are stealing American jobs? Are these foreign multimillionaires better than American multimillionaires whom Kerry rails against constantly?

Exactly what sort of cozy, private conversations has Candidate Kerry had with unnamed business leaders of unnamed foreign nations? Are these pots of foreign money going to circumvent the very campaign finance laws that Kerry supported? Does he not have an ethical, if not a legal, duty to disclose exactly who on the board of directors of foreign corporations have promised to do what acts to help the Kerry campaign?

We should not worry, of course. John Kerry will tell us, but he will tell us when it suits his interests and not the interests of America. Only after he comes back from Vietnam as a decorated war veteran, does he discover (or lie about) crimes against humanity. Only after an Republican president reiterates what his Democrat predecessor has said, does Kerry say that it was made up.

Now Kerry says that foreign leaders want him to be president, but he will not tell us what these foreign politicians want in return, and now Kerry thinks we should vote for him because undisclosed business bosses in other nations want him to be president, but he will not say what he has promised them in return for their support (or what this support involves.)

John Kerry reveals, conceals, embellishes or invents facts - that is obvious - but what is more disturbing is that even if Kerry actually believes what he is saying, he is only revealing what he believes to be true when it suits his purposes, not when it suits, say, the purposes of the people of Iraq or Vietnam.

His own words convict him. The question is not “Is John Kerry a scoundrel?â€￾ but simply “What sort of scoundrel is John Kerry?â€￾
 
NWA/AMT said:
Thanks Ronnie!
perhaps you don't watch world events! this is a new kind of threat to us "terrorism" as opposed to "communism" there is a big difference!
 
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