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[KCFlyer]

She didn't voluntarily publicize the charge and was more or less forced to because of the Starr inquiry.

And the Starr inquiry was a witch hunt of the highest order. Starr wasn't exacatly an "unbiased" investigator.

If you choose to disbelieve her because you either honestly think she's lying or because you hate to think that the President you supported would commit such an act, then that's your prerogative.

The president I supported? I voted for Perot in 1992 and Dole in 1996. Clinton happened to win. And if past presidents were brought up on "morals charges", as was Ken Starrs real purpose, then Jimmy Carter would still be president. Then again, even he "lusted in his heart".

 

[sentrido]

I find it ironic that we are now fighting the same people we created to fight the cold war.

 

[mweiss]

I find it ironic that we are now fighting the same people we created to fight the cold war.

I find it unsurprising. It is a typical result of black-and-white analysis, wherein the enemy of mine enemy is my friend, and the friend of mine enemy is my enemy.

 

[diogenes]

I would consider Kerry to be a lukewarm President. Won't get much done, won't be of great harm.

I consider Bush a continuing danger to the country, and thus, my duty to vote against him.

Of course, the Dems ("I am a member of no organized party..") can find a way to botch it.

I voted gleefully for Reagan in 80, reluctantly in 84 (Mondale?), extremely reluctantly for Bush in 88 (Dukakis? WTF?), Clinton in 92 (anybody but Bush), reluctantly for Clinton in 96 (Dole was far too much a corporate tool), and held my nose for Gore in 00 (see 92).

So in 6 elections, I have voted for one guy, and against 5. Considering the likes of Dukakis, Mondale and Kerry, do you think Dems throw the elections? That way, they get to play with the fat cats, and blame it on the R's.

The political pendulum swings too and fro over the years, and is now too far pro-business and anti-worker. While America has never been exactly pro-labor, we have seen better days.

 

[AgMedallion]

The president I supported? I voted for Perot in 1992 and Dole in 1996. Clinton happened to win. And if past presidents were brought up on "morals charges", as was Ken Starrs real purpose, then Jimmy Carter would still be president.

That was directed more at the anti-Bush crowd, the vast majority of whom did vote for Clinton...twice. Your voting record is err..... unusual. Whatever your political beliefs are would no doubt bring it into focus. But on the face of it, it's very unique. If you think Clinton was brought up on "morals" charges, I'd have to assume that lying before a Grand Jury and obstruction of justice means nothing to you since most of the Clinton apologists (I have no idea if you are one) repeat the mantra "It's just sex". Well hell, if you can lie before a Grand Jury when it's just about sex and it wasn't like he would have been sentenced to a Federal Pentitentiary for life, and you can excuse it, I guess if you lie when it's about murder, espionage, bank robbery, etc, then you could excuse the lies even more because then he'd have even more motivation to lie. You might think Paula Jones case was a crock, fine. But she deserved her day in court, just as your wife/sister/mother would if any of them had a boss who waved his pecker at them. The bullsh*t testimony he gave where simple words are given new meanings would have to lead one to believe that he's playing all of us for fools. The Democratic Party certainly was when they presented Clinton as some sort of Faberge Egg when, in reality, he was just a painted turd.

 

[mweiss]

lying before a Grand Jury and obstruction of justice...The bullsh*t testimony he gave where simple words are given new meanings would have to lead one to believe that he's playing all of us for fools.

Ya know, if you really looked at what was going on in that grand jury, you'd understand a few things:

1. The question asked was not actually relevant to the case
2. His answer was actually truthful. The question asked about his relationship with Lewinsky. His answer was "There is no relationship." Merriam-Webster dictionary defines "is" as "to have an objective existence in the present tense." The relationship by that time was in the past tense, and therefore his statement was factual. So...what do you think the meaning of "is" is?
3. The extent of his obstruction was as it pertained to an investigation into his personal, not professional life. Not quite like, say, illegally selling weapons to an enemy of the United States.

 

[KCFlyer]

That was directed more at the anti-Bush crowd, the vast majority of whom did vote for Clinton...twice. Your voting record is err..... unusual. Whatever your political beliefs are would no doubt bring it into focus. But on the face of it, it's very unique.

It's called "independent thinking" rather than "party line politics". Vote for the candidate regarding their stance on issues, not base on their party. My voting record?

1976 Ford. 1980 Anderson. 1984 - did not vote. 1988 Dukakis (admitedly an "anybody but Bush" vote). 1992 Perot. 1996 Dole.

A lot of far righties really didn't like Dole because he understood that nothing can happen without some compromise. Righties see black and white. Dole saw some gray.

If you think Clinton was brought up on "morals" charges, I'd have to assume that lying before a Grand Jury and obstruction of justice means nothing to you since most of the Clinton apologists (I have no idea if you are one) repeat the mantra "It's just sex". Well hell, if you can lie before a Grand Jury when it's just about sex and it wasn't like he would have been sentenced to a Federal Pentitentiary for life, and you can excuse it, I guess if you lie when it's about murder, espionage, bank robbery, etc, then you could excuse the lies even more because then he'd have even more motivation to lie.

Gosh darn it...the independent thinker in me looks at the question "did you have sex with that woman?" and asks myself the question "What does this have to do with the leadership or direction of this country?". And each time I asked, the answer I got was "nothing". So, yeah, I'd tend to downplay any "lie" about a guy having sex outside his marriage. But the Starr committee took it and ran...he "lied under oath" and was impeached for perjury. A complete and total waste of taxpayer dollars, IMHO. Heaven help any past or future presidents if all it takes for the "disgruntled party" to bring him up on impeachment charges is to put him (or her) under oath and ask them about their sex life. Among those being paraded up to the witness stand would have been FDR, Ike, Kennedy, Reagan, Bush 1, Bush 2, and maybe Ford. What would the rights outcry be if the democrats put Bush 2 up on the stand and asked him about his drug use or DWI's and caught him in a lie...impeachable offense or witch hunt? Or does it have anything to do with the direction of country? Golly..I'm not at all a Bush fan, but I'd have to say if that happened, I'd have to call a spade a spade and say that it's a waste of time and money, and has nothing to do with the direction or leadership of the country. That's the beauty of independant thinking.

 

[Imagolfer]

Things you have to believe to be a republican today:

Being a drug addict is a moral failing and a crime, unless you’re a conservative radio host. Then it’s an illness and you need our prayers for your recovery.


The United States should get out of the United Nations, and our highest national priority is enforcing U.N. resolutions against Iraq.


Government should relax regulation of Big Business and Big Money but crack down on individuals who use marijuana to relieve the pain of illness.


“Standing Tall for America†means firing your workers and moving their jobs to India.


A woman can’t be trusted with decisions about her own body, but multi-national corporations can make decisions affecting all mankind without regulation.


Jesus loves you, and shares your hatred of homosexuals and Hillary Clinton.


The best way to improve military morale is to praise the troops in speeches while slashing veterans’ benefits and combat pay.


Group sex and drug use are degenerate sins unless you someday run for governor of California as a Republican.


If condoms are kept out of schools, adolescents won’t have sex.


A good way to fight terrorism is to belittle our long-time allies, then demand their cooperation and money.


HMOs and insurance companies have the interest of the public at heart.


Providing health care to all Iraqis is sound policy. Providing health care to all Americans is socialism.


Global warming and tobacco’s link to cancer are junk science, but creationism should be taught in schools.


Saddam was a good guy when Reagan armed him, a bad guy when Bush’s daddy made war on him, a good guy when Cheney did business with him and a bad guy when Bush needed a “we can’t find Bin Laden†diversion.


A president lying about an extramarital affair is an impeachable offense. A president lying to enlist support for a war in which thousands die is solid defense policy.


Government should limit itself to the powers named in the Constitution, which include banning gay marriages and censoring the Internet.


The public has a right to know about Hillary’s cattle trades, but George Bush’s driving record is none of our business.


You support states’ rights, which means Attorney General John Ashcroft can tell states what local voter initiatives they have a right to adopt.


What Bill Clinton did in the 1960s is of vital national interest, but what Bush did in the ’80s is irrelevant.


Trade with Cuba is wrong because the country is communist, but trade with China and Vietnam is vital to a spirit of international harmony.

 

[sentrido]

Its the record speaking for itself!

 

[diogenes]

Excellent list, Imagolfer.

There is enough hypocrisy and flip-flopping to go around for both political parties - the pols and the voters.

Somehow, I don't think God is a Republican (His Son threw the moneylenders out of the Temple, and "...blessed are the meek, for THEY shall inherit the earth"), or a Democrat ("..If one does not work, neither should he eat.")

 

[delldude]

Excellent list, Imagolfer.

There is enough hypocrisy and flip-flopping to go around for both political parties - the pols and the voters.

Somehow, I don't think God is a Republican (His Son threw the moneylenders out of the Temple, and "...blessed are the meek, for THEY shall inherit the earth"), or a Democrat ("..If one does not work, neither should he eat.")

yeah,,,, 😉

 

[sentrido]

Kerry/Kerry 04!

 

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[delldude]

just read clinton's going to help out john f-ing kerry as he does his book tour...should bring up lots of fond memories of all kinds of stuff and stain his campain...
hillary '08!

 

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