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Sentrido, and NWA/AMT, thank you for the kind words.

But thanks even more for the informative and well thought out posts - I make it a point to read all of them. Well done!

RJcasualty (that's a handle that will apply to many more employees before long, I'm afraid 🙁 )

Yes, the upper Midwest had pockets of socialism. And along the same era, Debs garnered votes atop the national ballot for President.

Those times were as ripe as any for Socialists, and they could not make a go of it. FDR's notion of regulated capitalism was, and is, the correct antidote for socialism.

At any rate, no socialists to speak of lately, yes?
 
The Republicans have long co-opted socialist ideals: Ike's warning of the military-industrial complex, Nixon's Wage and Price Controls and EPA, Ford's inflation jaw-boning, Reagan's income tax credit, etc...
 
THEN & NOW: Heeding & Ignoring Intel Warnings On Weak WMD Evidence

February 3, 2004
Download: DOC, RTF, PDF

Despite the Administration's best efforts to blame the intelligence community for the failure to find WMD, the intelligence community repeatedly warned the White House that the President's WMD case for war was weak. In fact, an analysis of previous comments by top Administration officials prove there was a time when the White House was listening to those warnings. Unfortunately, that time passed and the Administration set up an "Office of Special Plans" in the Pentagon to circumvent established intelligence agencies. The result was that the intelligence community's warnings were ignored.

CHENEY heeds intel warnings on weak WMD case:

"Saddam Hussein's bottled up."

Vice President Dick Cheney, 9/16/01
Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/vicepresident/ne...vp20010916.html
CHENEY then ignores intel warnings on weak WMD case:

Iraq poses "terrible threats to the civilized world," is a "serious threat to our country" and "there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction...to use against our friends, against our allies, and against us."

Vice President Dick Cheney, 1/30/03, 1/31/03, 8/29/02
RUMSFELD heeds intel warnings on weak WMD case:

"Donald Rumsfeld led a congressionally appointed commission [before the war] that reviewed current intelligence about the WMD...His commission's findings on Iraq's WMD didn't materially differ from" a previous commission that found "the CIA's intel on Iraqi WMD was largely speculative," and an "absence of hard evidence so striking that panelists recall discussing a theory 'that the whole Iraq WMD program was smoke-and-mirrors, and Saddam was just a little guy behind a curtain.'"

Newsweek, 2/9/04
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4125720/
RUMSFELD then ignores intel warnings on weak WMD case:

"Saddam Hussein possesses chemical and biological weapons. Iraq poses a threat to the security of our people and to the stability of the world that is distinct from any other. Iraq has demonstrated that it is seeking the means to strike the United States and our friends and allies with weapons of mass destruction."

Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, 1/20/03
RICE heeds intel warnings on weak WMD case:

"We are able to keep arms from [Saddam]. His military forces have not been rebuilt."

Condoleezza Rice, 7/29/01
Source: http://www.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0107/29/le.00.html
RICE then ignores intel warnings on weak WMD case:

"[Iraq is] armed with weapons of mass destruction."

Condoleezza Rice, 11/21/02
POWELL heeds intel warnings on weak WMD case:

Iraq is "contained" and "threatens not the United States."

Secretary of State Colin Powell, 2/23/01, 2/24/01
Sources: http://www.state.gov/secretary/rm/2001/931.htm and http://usinfo.state.gov/topical/pol/arms/s...es/01022451.htm
POWELL then ignores intel warnings on weak WMD case:

Iraq's WMD pose a "real and present danger to the region and to the world."

Secretary of State Colin Powell, 2/5/03
Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20030205-1.html


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The Document Sean Hannity Doesn't Want You To Read

June 16, 2004

Speaking at the Take Back America conference on June 3, American Progress CEO John Podesta said, "I think when you get so distant from the facts as -- as guys like Limbaugh and Sean Hannity do, yeah, I think that tends to -- it kind of -- it tends to corrupt the dialogue." Apparently he struck a nerve with Fox News' Sean Hannity. Hannity challenged Podesta to "defend and explain one example where I -- where I said something that was so false." Since choosing just one of Hannity's distortions is too difficult, here are fifteen examples:

All Hannity quotes from Hannity and Colmes unless otherwise noted.

1. WMD

HANNITY: "You're not listening, Susan. You've got to learn something. He had weapons of mass destruction. He promised to disclose them. And he didn't do it. You would have let him go free; we decided to hold him accountable." (4/13/04)

FACT: Hannity's assertion comes more than six months after Bush Administration weapons inspector David Kay testified his inspection team had "not uncovered evidence that Iraq undertook significant post-1998 steps to actually build nuclear weapons or produce fissile material" and had not discovered any chemical or biological weapons. (Bush Administration Weapons Inspector David Kay, 10/2/03)

2. Colin Powell on Iraq

HANNITY: "Colin Powell just had a great piece that he had in the paper today. He was there [in Iraq]. He said things couldn't have been better." (9/19/03)

FACT: "Iraq has come very far, but serious problems remain, starting with security. American commanders and troops told me of the many threats they face--from leftover loyalists who want to return Iraq to the dark days of Saddam, from criminals who were set loose on Iraqi society when Saddam emptied the jails and, increasingly, from outside terrorists who have come to Iraq to open a new front in their campaign against the civilized world." (Colin Powell, 9/19/03)

3. Saddam/Al-Qaeda Connection

HANNITY: "And in northern Iraq today, this very day, al Qaeda is operating camps there, and they are attacking the Kurds in the north, and this has been well-documented and well chronicled. Now, if you're going to go after al Qaeda in every aspect, and obviously they have the support of Saddam, or we're not." (12/9/02)

FACT: David Kay was on the ground for months investigating the activities of Hussein's regime. He concluded "But we simply did not find any evidence of extensive links with Al Qaeda, or for that matter any real links at all." He called a speech where Cheney made the claim there was a link "evidence free." (Boston Globe, 6/16/04)

4. 9/11 Investigation

HANNITY: "[After 9-11], liberal Democrats at first showed little interest in the investigation of the roots of this massive intelligence failure...[Bush and his team] made it clear that determining the causes of America's security failures and finding and remedying its weak points would be central to their mission." (Let Freedom Ring, by Sean Hannity)

TRUTH: Bush Opposed the creation of a special commission to probe the causes of 9/11 for over a year. On 5/23/02 CBS New Reported "President Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11." Bush didn't relent to pressure to create a commission, mostly from those Hannity would consider "liberal" until September 2002. (CBS News, 5/23/02; ABC News, 9/20/02)

5. The Recession

HANNITY: "First of all, this president -- you know and I know and everybody knows -- inherited a recession...it was by every definition a recession" (11/6/02)

HANNITY: "Now here's where we are. The inherited Clinton/Gore recession. That's a fact." (5/6/03)

HANNITY: "The president inherited a recession." (7/10/03)

HANNITY: "He got us out of the Clinton-Gore recession." (10/23/03)

HANNITY: "They did inherit the recession. They did inherit the recession. We got out of the recession." (12/12/03)

HANNITY: "And this is the whole point behind this ad, because the president did inherit a recession." (1/6/04)

HANNITY: "Historically in every recovery, because the president rightly did inherit a recession. But historically, the lagging indicator always deals with employment." (1/15/04)

HANNITY: "Congressman Deutsch, maybe you forgot but I'll be glad to remind you, the president did inherit that recession." (1/20/04)

HANNITY: "He did inherit a recession, and we're out of the recession." (2/2/04)

HANNITY: "The president inherited a recession." (2/23/04)

HANNITY: "The president inherited a recession." (3/3/04)

HANNITY: "Well, you know, we're going to show ads, as a matter of fact, in the next segment, Congressman. Thanks for promoting our next segment. What I like about them is everything I've been saying the president ought to do: is focusing in on his positions, on keeping the nation secure in very difficult times, what he's been able to do to the economy after inheriting a very difficult recession, and of course, the economic impact of 9/11." (3/3/04)

HANNITY: "All right. So this is where I view the economic scenario as we head into this election. The president inherited a recession." (3/16/04)

HANNITY: "First of all, we've got to put it into perspective, is that the president inherited a recession." (3/26/04)

HANNITY: "Clearly, we're out of the recession that President Bush inherited." (4/2/04)

HANNITY: "Stop me where I'm wrong. The president inherited a recession, the economic impact of 9/11 was tremendous on the economy, correct?" (4/6/04)

HANNITY: "[President George W. Bush] did inherit a recession." (5/3/04)

HANNITY: "[W]e got [the weak U.S. economy] out of the Clinton-Gore recession." (5/18/04)

HANNITY: "We got out of the Clinton-Gore recession." (5/27/04)

HANNITY: "We got out of the Clinton-Gore recession." (6/4/04)

FACT: "The recession officially began in March of 2001 -- two months after Bush was sworn in -- according to the universally acknowledged arbiter of such things, the National Bureau of Economic Research. And the president, at other times, has said so himself." (Washington Post, 7/1/03)

6. The Hispanic Vote

HANNITY: "The Hispanic community got to know him in Texas. They went almost overwhelming for him. He more than quadrupled the Hispanic vote that he got in that state." (9/16/03)

FACT: Exit polls varied in 1998 governors race, but under best scenario he increased his Hispanic vote from 24 to 49 percent – a doubling not a quadrupling. He lost Texas Hispanics to Gore in 2000, 54-43 percent. (Source: NCLR , NHCSL)

7. White House Vandalism

HANNITY: "Look, we've had these reports, very disturbing reports -- and I have actually spoken to people that have confirmed a lot of the reports -- about the trashing of the White House. Pornographic materials left in the printers. They cut the phone lines. Lewd and crude messages on phone machines. Stripping of anything that was not bolted down on Air Force One. $200,000 in furniture taken out." (1/26/01)

TRUTH: According to statements from the General Services Administration that were reported on May 17, little if anything out of the ordinary occurred during the transition, and "the condition of the real property was consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy." (FAIR)

8. Patriotism

HANNITY: "I never questioned anyone's patriotism." (9/18/03)

FACT:

HANNITY: (to attorney Stanley Cohen) "Is it you hate this president or that you hate America?" (4/30/03)

HANNITY: "Governor, why wouldn't anyone want to say the Pledge of Allegiance, unless they detested their own country or were ignorant of its greatness?" (6/12/03)

HANNITY: "You could explain something about your magazine, [the Nation]. Lisa Featherstone writing about the hate America march, the [anti-war] march that took place over the weekend..." (1/22/03)

HANNITY: "'I hate America.' This is the extreme left. There is a portion of the left -- not everybody who's left -- that does hate this country and blame this country for the ills of the world..." (1/23/02)

HANNITY: (speaking to Sara Flounders co-director of the International Action Center) "You don't like this country, do you? You don't -- you think this is an evil country. By your description of it right here, you think it's a bad country." (9/25/01)

9. Separation of Church and State

HANNITY: "It doesn't say anywhere in the Constitution this idea of the separation of church and state." (8/25/03)

FACT: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." (1st Amendment)

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." (Article VI)

10. James Madison

HANNITY: "You want to refer to some liberal activist judge..., that's fine, but I'm going to go directly to the source. The author of the Bill of Rights [James Madison] hired the first chaplain in 1789, and I gotta' tell ya' somethin', I think the author of the Bill of Rights knows more about the original intent--no offense to you and your liberal atheist activism--knows more about it than you do." (9/4/02)

TRUTH: The first congressional chaplains weren't hired by James Madison--they were appointed by a committee of the Senate and House in, respectively, April and May, 1789, before the First Amendment even existed. James Madison's view: "Is the appointment of Chaplains to the two Houses of Congress consistent with the Constitution, and with the pure principle of religious freedom? In strictness the answer on both points must be in the negative." (James Madison)

11. Alabama Constitution

HANNITY: "But the Alabama Constitution, which Chief Justice Roy Moore is sworn to uphold, clearly it says, as a matter of fact that the recognition of God is the foundation of that state's Constitution." (8/21/03)

FACT: While the preamble of the Alabama Constitution does reference "the Almighty," section three provides: "That no religion shall be established by law; that no preference shall be given by law to any religious sect, society, denomination, or mode of worship; that no one shall be compelled by law to attend any place of worship; nor to pay any tithes, taxes, or other rate for building or repairing any place of worship, or for maintaining any minister or ministry; that no religious test shall be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under this state; and that the civil rights, privileges, and capacities of any citizen shall not be in any manner affected by his religious principles." (Alabama Constitution, Section 3)

12. Rent for Public Housing

HANNITY: Betsy, they're not going to lose it [public housing], because if you work less than 30 hours a week -- if you work more than 30 hours a week, you don't have to do it. If you're between the ages of 18 and 62 and you're not legally disabled and you have free housing -- in other words...

BETSY MCCAUGHEY: No. Wait a second, Sean. Let me correct you. Most people in public housing are not receiving free housing. Many of them are paying almost market rates.

HANNITY: Betsy, that is so ridiculous and so false, it's hardly even worth spending the time. (10/23/03)

FACT: Residents of public housing pay rent scaled to their household's anticipated gross annual income, less deductions for dependents and disabilities. The basic formula for rent is 30 percent of this monthly adjusted income. There are exceptions for extremely low incomes, but the minimum rent is $25 per month. No one lives in public housing for free. (Department of Housing and Urban Development)

13. Kerry Tax Plan

HANNITY: "The Kerry campaign wants to cut taxes on people who make two hundred thousand dollars. She [Teresa Heinz Kerry] only paid 14.7 percent of her income in taxes, because their plan doesn't go to dividends, only income. So they don't want to tax themselves." (5/12/04)

FACT: Kerry's plan would "Restore the capital gains and dividend rates for families making over $200,000 on income earned above $200,000 to their levels under President Clinton. (Kerry Press Release, 4/7/04)

14. Kerry and Weapons Systems

HANNITY: "He's [Kerry's] flip-flopped all over the place... on the issue of Iraq. All the munitions that we have built up, most of them wouldn't be there." (1/30/04)

HANNITY: "But he wanted to cancel…every major weapons system. Specific votes that he would have canceled the weapons systems we now use." (2/26/04)

FACT: "In 1991, Kerry opposed an amendment to impose an arbitrary 2 percent cut in the military budget. In 1992, he opposed an amendment to cut Pentagon intelligence programs by $1 billion. In 1994, he voted against a motion to cut $30.5 billion from the defense budget over the next five years and to redistribute the money to programs for education and the disabled. That same year, he opposed an amendment to postpone construction of a new aircraft carrier. In 1996, he opposed a motion to cut six F-18 jet fighters from the budget. In 1999, he voted against a motion to terminate the Trident II missile." (Slate, 2/25/04)

15. Kerry and the CIA

HANNITY: "If he (Kerry) had his way and the CIA would almost be nonexistent." (1/30/04)

FACT: John Kerry has supported $200 billion in intelligence funding over the past seven years - a 50 percent increase since 1996.

Kerry votes supporting intelligence funding:

FY03 Intel Authorization $39.3-$41.3 Billion
[2002, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 9/25/02]

FY02 Intel Authorization $33 Billion
[2001, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 12/13/01]

FY01 Intel Authorization $29.5-$31.5 Billion
[2000, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 12/6/00]

FY00 Intel Authorization $29-$30 Billion
[1999, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 11/19/1999]

FY99 Intel Authorization $29.0 Billion
[1998, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 10/8/98]

FY98 Intel Authorization $26.7 Billion
[1997, Senate Roll Call Vote #109]

FY97 Intel Authorization $26.6 Billion
[1996, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 9/25/96]

Best.
 
sentrido said:
The Document Sean Hannity Doesn't Want You To Read

June 16, 2004

Speaking at the Take Back America conference on June 3, American Progress CEO John Podesta said, "I think when you get so distant from the facts as -- as guys like Limbaugh and Sean Hannity do, yeah, I think that tends to -- it kind of -- it tends to corrupt the dialogue." Apparently he struck a nerve with Fox News' Sean Hannity. Hannity challenged Podesta to "defend and explain one example where I -- where I said something that was so false." Since choosing just one of Hannity's distortions is too difficult, here are fifteen examples:

All Hannity quotes from Hannity and Colmes unless otherwise noted.

1. WMD

HANNITY: "You're not listening, Susan. You've got to learn something. He had weapons of mass destruction. He promised to disclose them. And he didn't do it. You would have let him go free; we decided to hold him accountable." (4/13/04)

FACT: Hannity's assertion comes more than six months after Bush Administration weapons inspector David Kay testified his inspection team had "not uncovered evidence that Iraq undertook significant post-1998 steps to actually build nuclear weapons or produce fissile material" and had not discovered any chemical or biological weapons. (Bush Administration Weapons Inspector David Kay, 10/2/03)

2. Colin Powell on Iraq

HANNITY: "Colin Powell just had a great piece that he had in the paper today. He was there [in Iraq]. He said things couldn't have been better." (9/19/03)

FACT: "Iraq has come very far, but serious problems remain, starting with security. American commanders and troops told me of the many threats they face--from leftover loyalists who want to return Iraq to the dark days of Saddam, from criminals who were set loose on Iraqi society when Saddam emptied the jails and, increasingly, from outside terrorists who have come to Iraq to open a new front in their campaign against the civilized world." (Colin Powell, 9/19/03)

3. Saddam/Al-Qaeda Connection

HANNITY: "And in northern Iraq today, this very day, al Qaeda is operating camps there, and they are attacking the Kurds in the north, and this has been well-documented and well chronicled. Now, if you're going to go after al Qaeda in every aspect, and obviously they have the support of Saddam, or we're not." (12/9/02)

FACT: David Kay was on the ground for months investigating the activities of Hussein's regime. He concluded "But we simply did not find any evidence of extensive links with Al Qaeda, or for that matter any real links at all." He called a speech where Cheney made the claim there was a link "evidence free." (Boston Globe, 6/16/04)

4. 9/11 Investigation

HANNITY: "[After 9-11], liberal Democrats at first showed little interest in the investigation of the roots of this massive intelligence failure...[Bush and his team] made it clear that determining the causes of America's security failures and finding and remedying its weak points would be central to their mission." (Let Freedom Ring, by Sean Hannity)

TRUTH: Bush Opposed the creation of a special commission to probe the causes of 9/11 for over a year. On 5/23/02 CBS New Reported "President Bush took a few minutes during his trip to Europe Thursday to voice his opposition to establishing a special commission to probe how the government dealt with terror warnings before Sept. 11." Bush didn't relent to pressure to create a commission, mostly from those Hannity would consider "liberal" until September 2002. (CBS News, 5/23/02; ABC News, 9/20/02)

5. The Recession

HANNITY: "First of all, this president -- you know and I know and everybody knows -- inherited a recession...it was by every definition a recession" (11/6/02)

HANNITY: "Now here's where we are. The inherited Clinton/Gore recession. That's a fact." (5/6/03)

HANNITY: "The president inherited a recession." (7/10/03)

HANNITY: "He got us out of the Clinton-Gore recession." (10/23/03)

HANNITY: "They did inherit the recession. They did inherit the recession. We got out of the recession." (12/12/03)

HANNITY: "And this is the whole point behind this ad, because the president did inherit a recession." (1/6/04)

HANNITY: "Historically in every recovery, because the president rightly did inherit a recession. But historically, the lagging indicator always deals with employment." (1/15/04)

HANNITY: "Congressman Deutsch, maybe you forgot but I'll be glad to remind you, the president did inherit that recession." (1/20/04)

HANNITY: "He did inherit a recession, and we're out of the recession." (2/2/04)

HANNITY: "The president inherited a recession." (2/23/04)

HANNITY: "The president inherited a recession." (3/3/04)

HANNITY: "Well, you know, we're going to show ads, as a matter of fact, in the next segment, Congressman. Thanks for promoting our next segment. What I like about them is everything I've been saying the president ought to do: is focusing in on his positions, on keeping the nation secure in very difficult times, what he's been able to do to the economy after inheriting a very difficult recession, and of course, the economic impact of 9/11." (3/3/04)

HANNITY: "All right. So this is where I view the economic scenario as we head into this election. The president inherited a recession." (3/16/04)

HANNITY: "First of all, we've got to put it into perspective, is that the president inherited a recession." (3/26/04)

HANNITY: "Clearly, we're out of the recession that President Bush inherited." (4/2/04)

HANNITY: "Stop me where I'm wrong. The president inherited a recession, the economic impact of 9/11 was tremendous on the economy, correct?" (4/6/04)

HANNITY: "[President George W. Bush] did inherit a recession." (5/3/04)

HANNITY: "[W]e got [the weak U.S. economy] out of the Clinton-Gore recession." (5/18/04)

HANNITY: "We got out of the Clinton-Gore recession." (5/27/04)

HANNITY: "We got out of the Clinton-Gore recession." (6/4/04)

FACT: "The recession officially began in March of 2001 -- two months after Bush was sworn in -- according to the universally acknowledged arbiter of such things, the National Bureau of Economic Research. And the president, at other times, has said so himself." (Washington Post, 7/1/03)

6. The Hispanic Vote

HANNITY: "The Hispanic community got to know him in Texas. They went almost overwhelming for him. He more than quadrupled the Hispanic vote that he got in that state." (9/16/03)

FACT: Exit polls varied in 1998 governors race, but under best scenario he increased his Hispanic vote from 24 to 49 percent – a doubling not a quadrupling. He lost Texas Hispanics to Gore in 2000, 54-43 percent. (Source: NCLR , NHCSL)

7. White House Vandalism

HANNITY: "Look, we've had these reports, very disturbing reports -- and I have actually spoken to people that have confirmed a lot of the reports -- about the trashing of the White House. Pornographic materials left in the printers. They cut the phone lines. Lewd and crude messages on phone machines. Stripping of anything that was not bolted down on Air Force One. $200,000 in furniture taken out." (1/26/01)

TRUTH: According to statements from the General Services Administration that were reported on May 17, little if anything out of the ordinary occurred during the transition, and "the condition of the real property was consistent with what we would expect to encounter when tenants vacate office space after an extended occupancy." (FAIR)

8. Patriotism

HANNITY: "I never questioned anyone's patriotism." (9/18/03)

FACT:

HANNITY: (to attorney Stanley Cohen) "Is it you hate this president or that you hate America?" (4/30/03)

HANNITY: "Governor, why wouldn't anyone want to say the Pledge of Allegiance, unless they detested their own country or were ignorant of its greatness?" (6/12/03)

HANNITY: "You could explain something about your magazine, [the Nation]. Lisa Featherstone writing about the hate America march, the [anti-war] march that took place over the weekend..." (1/22/03)

HANNITY: "'I hate America.' This is the extreme left. There is a portion of the left -- not everybody who's left -- that does hate this country and blame this country for the ills of the world..." (1/23/02)

HANNITY: (speaking to Sara Flounders co-director of the International Action Center) "You don't like this country, do you? You don't -- you think this is an evil country. By your description of it right here, you think it's a bad country." (9/25/01)

9. Separation of Church and State

HANNITY: "It doesn't say anywhere in the Constitution this idea of the separation of church and state." (8/25/03)

FACT: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." (1st Amendment)

"The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States." (Article VI)

10. James Madison

HANNITY: "You want to refer to some liberal activist judge..., that's fine, but I'm going to go directly to the source. The author of the Bill of Rights [James Madison] hired the first chaplain in 1789, and I gotta' tell ya' somethin', I think the author of the Bill of Rights knows more about the original intent--no offense to you and your liberal atheist activism--knows more about it than you do." (9/4/02)

TRUTH: The first congressional chaplains weren't hired by James Madison--they were appointed by a committee of the Senate and House in, respectively, April and May, 1789, before the First Amendment even existed. James Madison's view: "Is the appointment of Chaplains to the two Houses of Congress consistent with the Constitution, and with the pure principle of religious freedom? In strictness the answer on both points must be in the negative." (James Madison)

11. Alabama Constitution

HANNITY: "But the Alabama Constitution, which Chief Justice Roy Moore is sworn to uphold, clearly it says, as a matter of fact that the recognition of God is the foundation of that state's Constitution." (8/21/03)

FACT: While the preamble of the Alabama Constitution does reference "the Almighty," section three provides: "That no religion shall be established by law; that no preference shall be given by law to any religious sect, society, denomination, or mode of worship; that no one shall be compelled by law to attend any place of worship; nor to pay any tithes, taxes, or other rate for building or repairing any place of worship, or for maintaining any minister or ministry; that no religious test shall be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under this state; and that the civil rights, privileges, and capacities of any citizen shall not be in any manner affected by his religious principles." (Alabama Constitution, Section 3)

12. Rent for Public Housing

HANNITY: Betsy, they're not going to lose it [public housing], because if you work less than 30 hours a week -- if you work more than 30 hours a week, you don't have to do it. If you're between the ages of 18 and 62 and you're not legally disabled and you have free housing -- in other words...

BETSY MCCAUGHEY: No. Wait a second, Sean. Let me correct you. Most people in public housing are not receiving free housing. Many of them are paying almost market rates.

HANNITY: Betsy, that is so ridiculous and so false, it's hardly even worth spending the time. (10/23/03)

FACT: Residents of public housing pay rent scaled to their household's anticipated gross annual income, less deductions for dependents and disabilities. The basic formula for rent is 30 percent of this monthly adjusted income. There are exceptions for extremely low incomes, but the minimum rent is $25 per month. No one lives in public housing for free. (Department of Housing and Urban Development)

13. Kerry Tax Plan

HANNITY: "The Kerry campaign wants to cut taxes on people who make two hundred thousand dollars. She [Teresa Heinz Kerry] only paid 14.7 percent of her income in taxes, because their plan doesn't go to dividends, only income. So they don't want to tax themselves." (5/12/04)

FACT: Kerry's plan would "Restore the capital gains and dividend rates for families making over $200,000 on income earned above $200,000 to their levels under President Clinton. (Kerry Press Release, 4/7/04)

14. Kerry and Weapons Systems

HANNITY: "He's [Kerry's] flip-flopped all over the place... on the issue of Iraq. All the munitions that we have built up, most of them wouldn't be there." (1/30/04)

HANNITY: "But he wanted to cancel…every major weapons system. Specific votes that he would have canceled the weapons systems we now use." (2/26/04)

FACT: "In 1991, Kerry opposed an amendment to impose an arbitrary 2 percent cut in the military budget. In 1992, he opposed an amendment to cut Pentagon intelligence programs by $1 billion. In 1994, he voted against a motion to cut $30.5 billion from the defense budget over the next five years and to redistribute the money to programs for education and the disabled. That same year, he opposed an amendment to postpone construction of a new aircraft carrier. In 1996, he opposed a motion to cut six F-18 jet fighters from the budget. In 1999, he voted against a motion to terminate the Trident II missile." (Slate, 2/25/04)

15. Kerry and the CIA

HANNITY: "If he (Kerry) had his way and the CIA would almost be nonexistent." (1/30/04)

FACT: John Kerry has supported $200 billion in intelligence funding over the past seven years - a 50 percent increase since 1996.

Kerry votes supporting intelligence funding:

FY03 Intel Authorization $39.3-$41.3 Billion
[2002, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 9/25/02]

FY02 Intel Authorization $33 Billion
[2001, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 12/13/01]

FY01 Intel Authorization $29.5-$31.5 Billion
[2000, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 12/6/00]

FY00 Intel Authorization $29-$30 Billion
[1999, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 11/19/1999]

FY99 Intel Authorization $29.0 Billion
[1998, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 10/8/98]

FY98 Intel Authorization $26.7 Billion
[1997, Senate Roll Call Vote #109]

FY97 Intel Authorization $26.6 Billion
[1996, Unanimous Senate Voice Vote 9/25/96]

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FACT: Hannity's assertion comes more than six months after Bush Administration weapons inspector David Kay testified his inspection team had "not uncovered evidence that Iraq undertook significant post-1998 steps to actually build nuclear weapons or produce fissile material" and had not discovered any chemical or biological weapons. (Bush Administration Weapons Inspector David Kay, 10/2/03)
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FACT: David Kay was on the ground for months investigating the activities of Hussein's regime. He concluded "But we simply did not find any evidence of extensive links with Al Qaeda, or for that matter any real links at all." He called a speech where Cheney made the claim there was a link "evidence free." (Boston Globe, 6/16/04)
from above linked article:He continues to state that Iraq was a danger to the world, worth going to war against, even if not for the same reasons that Bush claimed. He tells the Times, "We know that terrorists were passing through Iraq. And now we know that there was little control over Iraq's weapons capabilities. I think it shows that Iraq was a very dangerous place. The country had the technology, the ability to produce, and there were terrorist groups passing through the country—and no central control."
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The Straight Talk Express: John McCain on George W. Bush


McCain campaigned for the Republican presidential nomination aboard his bus, the "Straight Talk Express." Through primary states like New Hampshire, New York, South Carolina and Michigan, McCain gave Republican voters straight talk about Bush's plans for America. Whether it was decrying Bush's tax cuts for the rich at the expense of our nation's fiscal health or highlighting Bush's terrible environmental record as Governor, McCain called it like it was. As President, Bush has taken numerous positions opposite of McCain on key issues such as investigating the causes of 9/11, Bush's failed policies in Iraq, a real patients' bill of right or the environment.


McCain's Straight Talk On: Bush's Tax Plan



McCain: "Sixty percent of the benefits from Bush's tax cuts go to the wealthiest 10 percent of Americans, and that's not the kind of tax relief that Americans need." [Washington Post, 1/5/00]


McCain: "He's spending the entire surplus, the entire projected surplus on tax cuts."... [McCain] said Bush's plan is aimed at giving tax breaks to the wealthy. "I'm not sure wealthy Americans need one at this particular time,' McCain said." [Houston Chronicle, 1/10/00]


McCain: "Your tax plan over the next five years not only spends all of the surplus, it spends twenty billion dollars in addition to that. I'm sure we'll have that figured out. But this idea that somehow, if the money is left in order to salvage the Social Security for America and Medicare and the debt, that, you don't understand the role of the president of the United States. The president of the United States will veto bills, will veto bills that spend too much." [MSNBC/WOOD-TV GOP Debate, Calvin College, Grand Rapids, MI, 1/10/00]


McCain: "The first thing I'd say to a single mom is that I've got a tax cut for you, and Governor Bush doesn't." [Washington Post, 1/16/00]


McCain: "Governor Bush said he supported tax deduction for long-term health care. He has no provision for that. As far as single parents are concerned, he has no provisions to help the single mother in his tax proposal. We do." [AP, 1/20/00]


McCain: "Governor Bush wants to give 38 percent of his tax cut to the wealthiest 1 percent of Americans ... My friends, I don't think Bill Gates needs a tax cut -- but I think you and your parents do." [Dallas Morning News, 2/21/00]



McCain's Straight Talk On: Social Security/Medicare



McCain: "'By not shoring up the Social Security system now with surplus funds we are, by fiat, agreeing to raise payroll taxes in the future," added McCain, whose own plan is roughly half the size of Bush's. "I have called this kind of economics 'fiscally irresponsible.'" [AP, 1/14/99]


McCain: "Governor Bush's proposal has not one new penny for Social Security, not one penny for to pay down the debt, not one penny for Medicare. There's a difference there. He puts all the extra surplus into tax cuts. I don't think we need that. And by the way, thirty-eight percent of his tax cuts goes to the wealthiest one percent of Americans. I don't think they need that. I think working families need that tax cut rather than the wealthiest." [CNN, Darlington, SC, 2/12/00]


McCain: "I guess it was bound to happen. Governor Bush's campaign is getting desperate with a negative ad about me. The fact is, I'll use the surplus money to fix Social Security, cut your taxes and pay down the debt. Governor Bush uses all the surplus for tax cuts, but not one new penny for Social Security or the debt." ["Desperate," McCain 2000 ad]



McCain's Straight Talk On: Bush as a Different Kind of Republican



McCain: "Unfortunately, Governor Bush is a Pat Robertson Republican who will lose to Al Gore." [McCain speech in Virginia Beach, VA, McCain 2000 release, 2/28/00]



McCain's Straight Talk On: Bush as a Positive Campaigner



McCain: "I'm sorry that Governor Bush has orchestrated this campaign so it's nothing but negative ads. But that's a decision that he'll have to live with." [Hilton Head, SC, 2/18/00]


McCain: "This morning, I heard the most disappointing story of the campaign. A woman told me of a push poll received by her son -- a 13-year old Boy Scout -- and sponsored by the Bush Campaign which had so negatively portrayed my record as to drive her son to tears. ... The Governor should accept my challenge and immediately halt these push-polling calls and take his negative ads off the air." [McCain 2000 release, 2/10/00]


McCain: "Texas Governor George W. Bush's continued mudslinging negative campaign reached a new low in his attempts to attack John McCain and paint him as opposed to breast cancer research. However, the Governor's erroneous attack and insensitive remarks with respect to McCain's sister, a breast cancer survivor, drew attention to Bush's poor record on the issue." [McCain 2000 release, 3/3/00]



McCain's Straight Talk On: Bush's Failed Environmental Record



McCain: "Governor Bush is one of the great polluters in history." [McCain in New York City, 3/4/00]



McCain's Straight Talk On: Bush & Campaign Finance Reform



McCain: "He was asked what a President George W. Bush might do for the corporate interest of giant Texas energy conglomerate Enron Corp., whose executives bundled some $550,000 in campaign gifts to the Texas governor. McCain chortled: 'They'll get what the tobacco companies got 'good government.'" [Boston Globe, 1/12/00]


McCain: "In five years as governor of the state of Texas, Governor Bush never made one proposal on campaign finance reform in a state where unlimited contributions are the order of the day." Sen. John McCain, [Baltimore Sun, 2/21/00]


McCain: "Governor Bush just said he wants unlimited contributions from individuals. Maybe that explains why there have been sleep-overs at the Governor's Mansion in Austin by the Pioneers,' McCain said, referring to reports that eight of Bush's top presidential fund-raisers have spent the night at the mansion." [Houston Chronicle, 3/3/00]



McCain's Straight Talk On: Bush the Reformer



McCain: "I understand Governor Bush is now a reformer. If so, it's his first day on the job." [Dallas Morning News, 2/8/00]


McCain: "I'm going to work a lot harder at pointing out that Governor Bush is -- if he's a reformer, I'm an astronaut. That spending -- Governor Bush said he would have signed and supported the biggest pork barrel spending bill in history last November. I said I would veto it. Governor Bush is governor of Texas where spending has increased by 35 percent. Under Clinton it's only increased by 20 percent. And of course, the surplus, he puts it all into tax cuts and none into Social Security, Medicare or paying down the debt. We're going to define that a lot more." [Late Edition, CNN, 2/20/00]



McCain's Straight Talk On: Education Proposals



McCain: "Don't take the money from public education, as Governor Bush wants to do. Take it from eliminating corporate pork." [McCain in Grand Rapids, MI, 2/20/00]


McCain: "You want to use funds from public education [to pay for vouchers]. I don't want to take money from public education." [Philadelphia Inquirer, 1/27/00]



McCain's Straight Talk On: Qualifications for President



McCain: "And let me say this: I don't need any on the job training. I don't need any help from anybody. I am fully prepared to President of the United States and Commander-in-Chief of the armed forces." [McCain in Grand Rapids, MI, 2/20/00]


McCain: "There comes a time when our nation's leader can no longer rely on briefing books and talking points, when the experts and the advisers have all weighed in, when the sum total of one's life becomes the foundation from which he or she makes the decisions that determine the future of our democracy." [Sen. John McCain, AP, 9/28/99]


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You know I listen to Hannity. how can you critisize something if you havent heard it? I suppose i could just call it propaganda and dismiss it.Whats the point in that?
 
sentrido said:
You know I listen to Hannity. how can you critisize something if you havent heard it? I suppose i could just call it propaganda and dismiss it.Whats the point in that?
I suppose i could just call it propaganda and dismiss it.Whats the point in that?
you've done this in similar circumstances.....
this may be interesting:
told you before ,youre right side of the brain is subliminally controlling you....soon you'll awake a republican...its your destiny. 😉
 
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/07/06/....911/index.html

The Doctrine of Plausible Deniability:

"The doctrine of plausible deniability involves the creation of power structures and chains of command loose and informal enough to be denied if necessary. The doctrine has two major flaws. First, it is an open door to the abuse of authority; it requires that the bodies in question could be said to have acted independently, which in the end is tantamount to giving them license to act independently. Second, it rarely works when invoked; the denials made are rarely plausible and are generally seen through by both the media and the populace."
 

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