Doug Parkers statement on philly.com

[SKY HIGH]

"It;s a different world now", Parker said, "We are not going to have a work force with 20 years of experience on the ramp. Indeed we shouldn't".

sky high states: I take that to mean that Longevity will be dictated by wages in the market. Years ago, employees considered it a career because of the better wages and benefits.
Indeed we shouldnt----meaning he knows people will not stay in a lower paying job.

 

[N965VJ]

DP didn’t let anything “slip outâ€￾ in the interview.

Who was it that told employees at a meeting “You have a job, not a career.â€￾?

I don’t recall at the moment.

 

[SKY HIGH]

Well folks if this is the way Parker feels about fleet service, we should all plan to stay home Thanksgiving & Christmas holidays with our families & let the new hires run it. Lets see what happens.
Another meltdown on the way. Hopefully other groups will join.

sky high states: So How do YOU feel about screwing your FELLOW EMPLOYEE with another meltdown? It affects EVERYONE on the property.



only stating opinions

 

[towerclt]

sky high states: So How do YOU feel about screwing your FELLOW EMPLOYEE with another meltdown? It affects EVERYONE on the property.
only stating opinions

They should join in.

 

[SKY HIGH]

They should join in.

sky high states: YOU should Resign.




only stating opinions

 

[Hope777]

WN may start at the same level, but as posted above they do top out in the $24 an hour range. At US you start at around $9, and top out at $17....Um, let's see here...Who do I want to go to work for?? That $7 an hour differnce in top rate makes it a no-brainer. As Bob said, $9 an hour may cut it in some areas, but not in the PHL/NYC areas.

Maybe in Hubs and Large cities they top out at that. But in other smaller (operation wise) they top out at $15.01

DP didn’t let anything “slip outâ€￾ in the interview.

Who was it that told employees at a meeting “You have a job, not a career.â€￾?

I don’t recall at the moment.

That would have been Anthony Mule (spelling may be incorrect) in a Meeting with FSA in EWR. Durring this small meeting, the most jr employee out of the 12 of us had 21 years. Talk about a slap to the face.

 

[Kev3188]

That's right and it takes you...what...12 years to top out at WN?

11 years...used to be 17...

 

[azfyer]

The prevailing attitude with management has been that fleet service was an entry level job and was only a steeping stone to supervisory or admin positions. Bill Franke swore that he would never pay a ramper more than $10/hr. Franke was very vocal about this and, God forbid, a ramper tried to talk to him. He would walk away. Parker is of the same opinion but is much more discreet. Guess he let it slip in that interview. Perhaps he is going to learn the hard way. Cost neutral = effort neutral.

Parker is like one of those closet racists who is all buddy-buddy with African-Americans but when he gets home it is all "n----r n----r n----r".

WHAT???!!!

 

[barbeetantrums]

WHAT???!!!

What about what?

 

[tug_slug]

That's right and it takes you...what...12 years to top out at WN?

The point that I'd like to make here is, that we all have to start somewhere! The problem is, a good portion of the young work force today could give a flying schitt...the dedicated work ethic just doesn't seem to be there anymore.

"It;s a different world now", Parker said, "We are not going to have a work force with 20 years of experience on the ramp. Indeed we shouldn't".

With comment's like this are you surprised the employees feel no dedication toward the company?

Granted it does give them the right to tear equiptment apart but even a dog will bite back if you kick him long enough.

 

[BoeingBoy]

even a dog will bite back if you kick him long enough.

But if you keep kicking that dog, one of two things will happen:

- he'll just keep getting meaner, eventually biting anyone whether they attempt to kick him or not, or

- he'll get so fearful that he'll skulk around with his tail between his legs, scared of his own shadow.

The question is two-fold. Which result is management expecting, and which path will the employees take?

Recent history on the East suggests the dog will act like he's going to bite, then skulk away with his tail between his legs. Does the past portend the future?

Jim

 

[qwerty]

Maybe it's time to put this dog down then. The industry has shown that it can't afford to support wages that make it a career, and the auto industry is going the same way.

The other reason why the "top out" isn't what it used to be is because it is impossible to be twice as productive on the ramp with 5, 10, 15 or 20 years of service. They don't want you to stay. I feel for the people that have been here that long, but the only way wages are coming back is a regulated industry. If a socialist is running for congress in your district, your best bet is vote for him/her.

 

[28yrsnojob]

Its time the IAM stood up to parker and take back every city that was contracted out to vendors that keep big margins of profit and give nothing to the ramp workers.
Now is the time because they are in talks and if that doesnt work let management load the planes and deice.

 

[SpinDoc]

Its time the IAM stood up to parker and take back every city that was contracted out to vendors that keep big margins of profit and give nothing to the ramp workers.
Now is the time because they are in talks and if that doesnt work let management load the planes and deice.

I would think that an "all management (non-union)" ramp crew is the overall goal of most major carriers. Who needs the unions anymore, anyway? Heck, management employees (non-union) would probably allow the company to have more flexibility to respond to changing conditions in the industry.

 

[BoeingBoy]

Maybe it's time to put this dog down then.

Don't tell me that's the only solution you can find, although finding another would require actually seeking another.....

The industry has shown that it can't afford to support wages that make it a career

Or the industry has shown that it can very well afford those whose only talent is kicking dogs.....

Jim