Executive Vice President Bruce Ashby To Resign

[Harry Callahan]

They don't deserve one. Let them leave.

 

[Hawkhunter]

I believe Bruce Ashby will not be the last US Airways executive, officer, manager, or other MSP employees to leave the company. Within the next week or so the merged company will announce the new management team and those left out will likely seek other employment.

The halls of Crystal City will likely be thinned out as people look for and obtain other work to pay their bills, since they have not yet received a retention and severance award.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

[post="282616"][/post]​

And the best his "Talent" could get was a job in India.

 

[longing4piedmont]

The halls of Crystal City will likely be thinned out as people look for and obtain other work to pay their bills, since they have not yet received a retention and severance award.

Regards,

USA320Pilot

[post="282616"][/post]​

Cry me a river. boo hoo hoo

 

[700UW]

What about the rank and file workers who have given thousands of jobs and bilions of dollars to make up for the inept management in CCY, where are their retention bonuses and additional severence since it was the common worker's sacrifice that kept US alive, not the CCY gang of thieves who put this company into bankruptcy twice in less then two years and squandered over $3 billion in concessions from the employees and vendors from the first chapter 11 filing.

 

[Hawk]

What about the rank and file workers who have given thousands of jobs and bilions of dollars to make up for the inept management in CCY, where are their retention bonuses and additional severence since it was the common worker's sacrifice that kept US alive, not the CCY gang of thieves who put this company into bankruptcy twice in less then two years and squandered over $3 billion in concessions from the employees and vendors from the first chapter 11 filing.

[post="282627"][/post]​

Don't blame management. Your union failed to protect its members. The reductions could have been avoided, but your union didn't want to negotiate. The blame rests with the IAM. The only leader that performed well was Teddy Xidas. I can't say the same for the fighting machinist.

Your group has its own severence package. Don't mislead the readers. I bet my colleague the truth will concur with my comments too. You are doing more harm than good for your union.

 

[AP Tech]

I hate to say it but for once I agree with you Hawk!!! Most IAM members were sold down the river for a few bucks. I still do not believe the reductions would have been avoided any way the negotiations would have gone. As for Teddy you are 100% correct!!!!!

 

[ClueByFour]

Don't blame management. Your union failed to protect its members. The reductions could have been avoided, but your union didn't want to negotiate.

[post="282667"][/post]​

How?

Without banging labor (although, with regards to the pilot's wives club this may be a poor choice of words), you guys would have tanked the joint by 2002.

Despite doing it once, you tanked the joint again by 2004.

Nonlabor costs are still greater than almost every other legacy, and miles greater than the LCCs.

Concessions to this group are roughly equated to handing your money to the mugger who will shoot you anyway.

 

[700UW]

You were too busy with Teddy and Perry to know what was going on in the terrace conference room on the 2nd floor.

And a total comprehensive package was given to Jerry, Doug and Al on 1/5/05 in the AM, I know as I was there and I still have a copy of the IAM proposal to the company. And maybe if your compadres did not stall in getting all pertinant finacial data to the IAM economists, things would have progressed faster. The proposal was worth the ask and you flat out rejected it as it kept too many heads on the property and protected Utility at the big eight stations.

You and the rest of the CCY Gang of Thieves, wanted what you wanted and how you wanted it and nothing that the IAM gave you would have sufficed.

Why don't you go ask The Truth, he has a copy of it.

 

[cltbay1homie]

Bravo...Bravo...I will give you this one..I think you may have touched Brucie where it counts.

 

[PITbull]

700UW is totally correct. AFA was next door to them most days and the Company wouldn't come in to discuss squat with these guys. They would wait and wait all day, and zero, nothing, nadda, ziltch discussions. It was awful, and AFA was concerned about the IAM as we truly believed the Company was out to abrogate their agreements and NO MATTER WHAT IAM presented, there is no way the Company would settle for anything they offered. The Company wanted abrogation in order to eliminate utility (force AFA side letter to basically be null and void when it came to NOT performing other union's work), and the Company wanted outsourcing most of the IAM mechanics work. They could only accomplish this through an abrogation. This is not negotiations.

I truly, in my heart of heart believe the Company singled out the IAM because they wanted the most cost saving out of them, this group alone.

I watched this process. It was terrible. And I died inside as I watched them. The Company management purposely wanted to destroy the IAM union and its members as they didn't want this work anymore. No other group, IMO, went through what the IAM went through. They have my utmost respect for what they tried earnestly to maintain without giving up their dignity. They had to bring out the Company's last proposal for ratifiction, and if the IAM members didn't want it, they should not have ratified it.

I think if I were in that position, I would have shut the place down and not looked back ever. Good thing for the Company, I am not IAM, as we'd be out of business.
AFA was just not put in that position. And we had Bruce A. and Rob Fuhr in our negotiations working out a deal with us that we may have been able to live iwth and what we thought the members may give up on one end, and capture on the other end.

For AFA, the company permitted a negotiation as they just couldn't have two groups go out. We got real creative with our agreements and knew at some point of negotiations, it would ratify. Believe me, it went down to the wire as well.

 

[dc3fanatic]

And maybe if your compadres did not stall in getting all pertinant finacial data to the IAM economists, things would have progressed faster.

[post="282718"][/post]​

You are seriously going to talk about speed of progress when US Airways had to declare bankruptcy to get you to the table?

"The concession stand is closed" . . . remember that phrase?

But hey, don't the let the facts get in your way.

 

[PITbull]

You are seriously going to talk about speed of progress when US Airways had to declare bankruptcy to get you to the table?

"The concession stand is closed" . . . remember that phrase?

But hey, don't the let the facts get in your way.

[post="282723"][/post]​

We weren't going to the table either. Company knew they were going into BK to dump all the pensions. There is not a group that would have voted to terminate their pensions. The Company knew, as we told them that if you put us in that position, we will shut it down. So BK was where they we're going in order to extract another $1billion from everyone for the third time, outsource CWA jobs and IAM and dump pensions, extract 21% pay cuts, and the most extreme concessions in history that no other unions in aviation history would just give to the Company without a BK, threat of abrogation, liquidation, 113c, e, and the kitchen sink.

My opinion, this managment is unworthy of respect for taking a company into BK twice, screwing the shareholders, and employees, and will walk away like they did us a favor.

Not in my book.

And guess what? All we got was a merger with a LCC carrier who was struggling as well, and will not make it without a marriage.

Yea, ahhuh, good job. :down:

 

[700UW]

You are seriously going to talk about speed of progress when US Airways had to declare bankruptcy to get you to the table?

"The concession stand is closed" . . . remember that phrase?

But hey, don't the let the facts get in your way.

[post="282723"][/post]​

Guess you don't remember the how US Airways violated the IAM Agreement in regard to the Airbus, you can't trust them, we did not, we went to court and won, then lost on appeal and won in arbitration.

The company violated the very concessionary contracts that was signed a few months prior, and you expect the IAM to trust a bunch of liars?

 

[700UW]

Pitbull,

Thank you for posting the truth and thank you for the kind words.

The one good thing I saw during the process at CCY that brightened my day was you.

 

[USA320Pilot]

PineyBob:

PineyBob said: "Afterall when you're a legend in your own mind everything you do is above reproach."

USA320Pilot comments: PineyBob, I'm not a legend in my own mind. I'm just a loyal person, loyal to my God, loyal to my faith, loyal to my union, and loyal to my company. I like to provide accurate information and to correct misrepresentation. It's about keeping the communication flow going.

Regards,

USA320Pilot