F/A agreement, list the concessions
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I'll try this again.
The contract after this is the important contract.
Why lose out on tens of thousands on a contract that may last less than three years?
For those that can keep the big picture in mind.
If that fails then we might be needing some help.
We could use the mOney in the mean time.
The contract after this is the important contract.
Why lose out on tens of thousands on a contract that may last less than three years?
For those that can keep the big picture in mind.
If that fails then we might be needing some help.
We could use the mOney in the mean time.
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I will not disagree.
I don't trust this bunch in Tempe to not violate this contract before the ink is dry. There is too much wiggle room in this contract for them do this.
They can implement what they want...when they want...and we're left twisting in the wind.
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We have PBS can they implement it now?
Is it better to stay on a 10+ BK contract or is it better to reap some benefits before a merger?
Wouldn't we look foolish if we decided to stay on BK contracts if there was a merger?
We would look even more foolish if we chose to stay on a BK contract and a merger did not happen.
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You and I don't know if there is a merger in the near future or not. Maybe...maybe not.
In my opinion....not. AA doesn't need US for a damn thing. And if you've seen what they are throwing at their f/a's as a bone...you'd be horrified. It's going to get down and dirty at AA.
I don't want any part of it and neither do you. JMO.
Just read the TA...take notes...go to the road shows and vote with your heart.
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In my opinion....not. AA doesn't need US for a damn thing. And if you've seen what they are throwing at their f/a's as a bone...you'd be horrified. It's going to get down and dirty at AA.
I don't want any part of it and neither do you. JMO.
Just read the TA...take notes...go to the road shows and vote with your heart.
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For those on the west who don't like the insurance change-you are getting 3more an hour to make up for the change.
As someone likes to say So What if the company pays the insurance or the compamy gives you the money to pay the insurance.
Really, it's not your first rodeo.
People, we recalled other people so we could be heard, so listen to what your people have
to say. If you can negotiate a better contract we'll be happy to vote on it in 4 years
Should we start the recalls now and then the surveys and then ask tthe mediator if we can start again then ask the company to come back to the table and then hope for release and
then hope for a strike?
Any guesses how long that will take?
If you think a year you are out of your mind.
As someone likes to say So What if the company pays the insurance or the compamy gives you the money to pay the insurance.
Really, it's not your first rodeo.
People, we recalled other people so we could be heard, so listen to what your people have
to say. If you can negotiate a better contract we'll be happy to vote on it in 4 years
Should we start the recalls now and then the surveys and then ask tthe mediator if we can start again then ask the company to come back to the table and then hope for release and
then hope for a strike?
Any guesses how long that will take?
If you think a year you are out of your mind.
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So now it's official. Wonder who'll win this one?
US Airways Pilots to Lose Jumpseat Privilege
As pilots, we are fortunate to have the ability to use unoccupied jumpseats for travel purposes. Having these extra seat(s) available is not only a benefit to the pilots, but occasionally benefits our other employee groups as well.
We have all seen pilots voluntarily occupy a flight deck jumpseat in order to open a passenger seat for an employee or their family member with less seniority. This is a courtesy that we extend to help out our fellow employees.
Currently, our PHX-based pilots have, in addition to the flight deck jumpseat, access to the CABIN jumpseat on West aircraft when not in use by a US Airways Flight Attendant. This policy is similar to one in effect at many of the other major air carriers throughout the USA.
Regrettably, the recently published Flight Attendant Tentative Agreement, instead of expanding cabin jumpseat access to all US Airways Pilots as has been requested repeatedly over the years, now includes language that excludes US Airways Pilots from the cabin jumpseat. Instead, language was added that now permits off-line flight attendants access to this jumpseat. We are now being asked to leave a US Airways Pilot with an average seniority of 20-plus years stranded at the gate to welcome an employee from another air carrier on to a jumpseat that you are currently legally entitled too.
It's important to keep in mind this is not a Company or FAA restriction that prohibits pilots on the cabin jumpseat, but rather a restriction placed on us by our own flight attendants.
Some flight attendants have mistakenly indicated that we have language in our contract that restricts them from the flight deck jumpseat. That is not the case. There is nothing written in the Pilot's Agreement that restricts flight attendants (or anyone else) from the flight deck jumpseat. The restriction is the FAA, FAR 121.547, which clearly spells out the requirements for a person authorized to ride in the flight deck.
Our position is simple. If a cabin jumpseat is not otherwise being used by a US Airways Flight Attendant, and the flight is leaving the gate with only the cabin jumpseat available, allow a US Airways Pilot the use of the cabin jumpseat. Our goal is to get as many souls as possible on board the aircraft. It's a win, win for all!
USAPA Jumpseat Committee
US Airways Pilots to Lose Jumpseat Privilege
As pilots, we are fortunate to have the ability to use unoccupied jumpseats for travel purposes. Having these extra seat(s) available is not only a benefit to the pilots, but occasionally benefits our other employee groups as well.
We have all seen pilots voluntarily occupy a flight deck jumpseat in order to open a passenger seat for an employee or their family member with less seniority. This is a courtesy that we extend to help out our fellow employees.
Currently, our PHX-based pilots have, in addition to the flight deck jumpseat, access to the CABIN jumpseat on West aircraft when not in use by a US Airways Flight Attendant. This policy is similar to one in effect at many of the other major air carriers throughout the USA.
Regrettably, the recently published Flight Attendant Tentative Agreement, instead of expanding cabin jumpseat access to all US Airways Pilots as has been requested repeatedly over the years, now includes language that excludes US Airways Pilots from the cabin jumpseat. Instead, language was added that now permits off-line flight attendants access to this jumpseat. We are now being asked to leave a US Airways Pilot with an average seniority of 20-plus years stranded at the gate to welcome an employee from another air carrier on to a jumpseat that you are currently legally entitled too.
It's important to keep in mind this is not a Company or FAA restriction that prohibits pilots on the cabin jumpseat, but rather a restriction placed on us by our own flight attendants.
Some flight attendants have mistakenly indicated that we have language in our contract that restricts them from the flight deck jumpseat. That is not the case. There is nothing written in the Pilot's Agreement that restricts flight attendants (or anyone else) from the flight deck jumpseat. The restriction is the FAA, FAR 121.547, which clearly spells out the requirements for a person authorized to ride in the flight deck.
Our position is simple. If a cabin jumpseat is not otherwise being used by a US Airways Flight Attendant, and the flight is leaving the gate with only the cabin jumpseat available, allow a US Airways Pilot the use of the cabin jumpseat. Our goal is to get as many souls as possible on board the aircraft. It's a win, win for all!
USAPA Jumpseat Committee
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Yawn....
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The f/as voting Doh press 1, the f/as voting j/s press 2.
If you would like 84 days of sick on 4 occasions 4 to 7 more an hour plus better rigs, money to compensate insurance, lead and aft pay to put you over $50,fewer resevers, more blks, no furlough from PBS etc... Press 3
Or would you like to wait 4 more years?
If you would like 84 days of sick on 4 occasions 4 to 7 more an hour plus better rigs, money to compensate insurance, lead and aft pay to put you over $50,fewer resevers, more blks, no furlough from PBS etc... Press 3
Or would you like to wait 4 more years?
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Brilliant.
Hey, why are you using a picture of my friends airplane.
I might tell him your using that pic.
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Brilliant.
Hey, why are you using a picture of my friends airplane.
I might tell him your using that pic.
That's my plane.
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If you are willing to bet on someone just saying no you might want to ask them what their comprehensive vision of our contract should be.
Are they just voting no because CO gets $52 with no rigs? ( Canceled trip no pay )
Are they just saying no because they don'nt know how we compare to our bigger rivals?
Are they just saying no because the west is compensated for not paying for any insurance?
Are they saying no because 4 sick occasions means 80 days difference?
Are they just saying no because they don't know what they're talking about?
Are they just voting no because CO gets $52 with no rigs? ( Canceled trip no pay )
Are they just saying no because they don'nt know how we compare to our bigger rivals?
Are they just saying no because the west is compensated for not paying for any insurance?
Are they saying no because 4 sick occasions means 80 days difference?
Are they just saying no because they don't know what they're talking about?
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Talking to the west FAs, 100% would like to wait 4 more years.
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Your just like the East guys, going no where fast.
3000 pages same thing. I'm on your side until I'm not.
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Same old same old pilots telling f/as what to do.
Not what's best for f/as.
Same as the east.
What's in it for me.
Not what's best for f/as.
Same as the east.
What's in it for me.
