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WeAAsles said:
The GOP want to have a say about what goes up her skirt and what might come out. That's a mighty large intrusion of personal rights.
How much you want to bet if they had total control that they would eventually enact strict fornication laws across this land. Abstinence in all areas of Social Liberties predicated on their belief of the Religious texts they follow.
It wouldn't be a long ball throw to become much different then those Muslum Countries where woman have no rights outside of the rights of their husbands to consider them property.
Georgia used to have a forbication law on their books. It might even still be there, just not strictly enforced...... Yet?
Wrong again.
The GOP has nothing to do with the issue.
If Roe v Wade is overturned today, abortion wouldn't be illegal, it would go to the states to be decided on a state by state basis.
 
Kev3188 said:
Missed it earlier.
Your question in general's a good one. As for "smaller government," the GOP says that's their domain, but all I've seen is an increase in central control, and a decrease in local autonomy.
Personal freedoms? Maybe with 2A, but all bets are off after that. Heck, we have one sitting Republican governor who went out of his way to deny his constituents their 1st Amendment rights.
I wonder how women forced to deal with vaginal ultrasounds feel about the GOPs stance on "individual freedom." Maybe Pete can answer that one for us...
And so it goes...
And again Kev, when you say the "GOP", yes, they have been in lock step with the left on far too many things in the last several election cycles. Maybe I should have said, " going forward, with the candidates before us",
Who would be better at those issues.

To me, it's not even close which set of candidates would do more of those items listed, and again, those are the things this country was founded on, not Socislism, or whatever the hell Hillary is trying to couch herself as.
 
 
The Bernie Sanders campaign said early Tuesday morning that it was informed by the Iowa Democratic Party that results from 90 precincts were missing.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2016/02/02/sanders-campaign-says-it-was-informed-by-iowa-dem-party-that-results-from-90-precincts-are-missing/
 
 
Clinton voter fraud in Polk County, Iowa Caucus
Caucus chair and Clinton precinct captain do not conduct actual count of Clinton supporters and deliberately mislead caucus
http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4578575/clinton-voter-fraud-polk-county-iowa-caucus
 
 
Clinton Caucus Caught on Camera Committing Voter Fraud in Iowa?
So basically in the caucus they have to hand count everyone depending on what side they're sitting on. Well when it came time to do the second count the numbers were off. The first vote breakdown was like this
FIRST VOTE: 215 Sanders 210 Clinton 26 O'Malley 8 Undecided 459 TOTAL
And this is the SECOND Vote: 232 Clinton 224 Sanders 456 Total
So somehow they lost 3 people but Clinton's vote went up by 14.
So basically what had happened was Hillary's team didn't take the time to do a full recount instead she just added the new people who joined the second vote. Which clearly wasn't an accurate count.
http://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/85864001-clinton-caucus-caught-on-camera-committing-voter-fraud-in-iowa
 
Traymark said:
And again Kev, when you say the "GOP", yes, they have been in lock step with the left on far too many things in the last several election cycles. Maybe I should have said, " going forward, with the candidates before us",
Who would be better at those issues.
Well we can scratch "free market" off that list since none exist.

Personal freedom(s)-Sanders

Size of government- None. No one'll shrink it; it'll be more a question of when the expenditures go.

Taxes- See above.

Private property rights- dealers choice. I don't see them being fundamentally affected one way or the other after January...
 
Kev3188 said:
Well we can scratch "free market" off that list since none exist.
Personal freedom(s)-Sanders
Size of government- None. No one'll shrink it; it'll be more a question of when the expenditures go.
Taxes- See above.
Private property rights- dealers choice. I don't see them being fundamentally affected one way or the other after January...
Free markets:
They still exist, but they won't with Bernie

Personal freedoms: I damn near spit up my lunch when I read "sanders", you would need to buttress that with some evidence, when he wants to confiscate incomes to do as he wishes with.

Taxes:
See above

Private property rights:
Democrats are for eliminating them wherever possible. This is one issue Republicsns have better on, but less so lately, hence the voting revolution you are seeing in the primary.
 
There is no such thing as a free market. It simply doesn't exist, nor will it regardless of who moves into 1600 Penn.

As for personal freedom, we must have two very different definitions; from where I sit, the right is much more intrusive than progressives are.
 
Back to Bernie.

Bernie is a self professed Democratic Socialist.

So many conservatives seem to have problems with the idea of any Social or Socialist programs and yet the USA is loaded to bear with them.

Social Security. Do conservatives have any problem collecting the money in that program when they retire? I think not.
Medicare
AARP discounts
Homestead exemptions and senior citizen discounts.
Unemployment insurance. If the conservative loses his or her job will they refuse that benefit?

Food stamps. How many self proclaimed conservatives who work in Walmart are refusing that benefit? Another one that Joe and Jill taxpayer contribute to?

Welfare. Are there people collecting this benefit who have voted Republican? Of course there are.

Police, Fireman and the Garbage collector. Those payments all come from our taxes. That is a Social benefit that we pay for. If your house catches fire and the Firemen save your house they aren't looking for you to write a check for those services. You don't look in the phone book to find the best rate for the Fire Extinguishing company.

Now take away all these items including the Cheese Wheel you get from the food bank if you are completely desperate and what do you think would happen here in the good old US of A?

SERIOUS ANARCHY.

Oh and if you Conservatives shot and killed someone trying to get your food in this Society you dream of, there would be no one coming to collect the body. You would need to dispose of it yourself unless you can stand the smell.
 
Traymark said:
Free markets:
They still exist, but they won't with Bernie
Personal freedoms: I damn near spit up my lunch when I read "sanders", you would need to buttress that with some evidence, when he wants to confiscate incomes to do as he wishes with.
Taxes:
See above
Private property rights:
Democrats are for eliminating them wherever possible. This is one issue Republicsns have better on, but less so lately, hence the voting revolution you are seeing in the primary.
Private property rights? Lol. Do you own the land or just the house it sits on? And do you actually own that abode or does JP Morgan actually own it?

Oh and the Local Government wants your land to put up a strip mall or highway and you refuse to sell (If you actually own the land)

Eminent Domain. GET OUT!!!!!!

I love the illusions people actually have about life. Quite amusing.
 
700UW said:
 
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/laura-chapin/2015/08/07/the-gop-debates-sexist-stand-against-womens-rights
 
A Sexist Smorgasbord Republicans raced to the bottom on women's rights during the first GOP debate.
 
 
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And that has what to do with the RWNJ's war on women?
 
WeAAsles said:
Back to Bernie.
Bernie is a self professed Democratic Socialist.
So many conservatives seem to have problems with the idea of any Social or Socialist programs and yet the USA is loaded to bear with them.
Social Security. Do conservatives have any problem collecting the money in that program when they retire? I think not.
Medicare
AARP discounts
Homestead exemptions and senior citizen discounts.
Unemployment insurance. If the conservative loses his or her job will they refuse that benefit?
Food stamps. How many self proclaimed conservatives who work in Walmart are refusing that benefit? Another one that Joe and Jill taxpayer contribute to?
Welfare. Are there people collecting this benefit who have voted Republican? Of course there are.
Police, Fireman and the Garbage collector. Those payments all come from our taxes. That is a Social benefit that we pay for. If your house catches fire and the Firemen save your house they aren't looking for you to write a check for those services. You don't look in the phone book to find the best rate for the Fire Extinguishing company.
Now take away all these items including the Cheese Wheel you get from the food bank if you are completely desperate and what do you think would happen here in the good old US of A?
SERIOUS ANARCHY.
Oh and if you Conservatives shot and killed someone trying to get your food in this Society you dream of, there would be no one coming to collect the body. You would need to dispose of it yourself unless you can stand the smell.
Social security is a program you pay in with your own money. Money that you are deserved of when withdrawal is needed. It's is not a true social program. Just because you think it has the same word, doesn't mean it has the same meaning.
 

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