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Kev3188 said:
I don't think anyone changes it in one term. I think Sanders is the best shot to get things started...
 
I think you are pretty well informed and objective on a lot of these issues, but how is the Bern going to pay for all these programs aside from our already almost unsustainable debt load?
 
Going Robin Hood sounds cool, but examining the rich and their income, it very soon becomes a realization it ain't going to cover the bill.
All these middle income wonks raising there flag so high in support will wake up to the fact that they , the middle income group, will bear the burden of paying for all the Bern's programs.....its a given and will be an eye opener sooner or later.
 
So tell me, how do we expand federal spending on free stuff while paying down our tremendous debt?
 
And as an aside, when interest rates start to balloon, how will we be able to match debt payments on principal with rising interest?
 
It is going to be a huge problem that I see very few discussing.
 
I don't think we need to expand spending so much as we need to reallocate the current expenditures.

He's proposing progressive tax plans, as well as closing a lot of the loopholes that allow corporations to dodge paying their fair share to both handle debt service and find most of his "cornerstone" (my term) initiatives, such as infrastructure projects, education, etc...

As one of those middle income guys, I feel like I'm already paying; the question now is what will I be paying for? Will it be something like single payer, or turning the desert into glass?

P.S. Rising interest rates and student loan debt worry me too...
 
I don't hear the Bern talking much regarding serious reallocation of existing expenditures...free stuff will prevail while serious cost reductions won't.
 
Kev3188 said:
I don't think anyone changes it in one term. I think Sanders is the best shot to get things started...
Get what started? And how will you know when you get there?
 
Liberals really are the dumbest creatures on the face of this earth. The keep believing that they are just one government program or intervention away from achieving some fantasy utopian world that never existed.

They get fed this garbage by career politicians who devise some (shiny object) plan, get them on board, plan fails miserably or makes things worse, then comes up with a new plan, rinse, lather, repeat...

Most people with half a brain know what the saying means "fool me once, shame on you...fool me twice, shame on me.

Not liberals, more like "fool me once, twice, three, four, five, etc.

And still don't get it.
 
Kev3188 said:
I don't think we need to expand spending so much as we need to reallocate the current expenditures.
He's proposing progressive tax plans, as well as closing a lot of the loopholes that allow corporations to dodge paying their fair share to both handle debt service and find most of his "cornerstone" (my term) initiatives, such as infrastructure projects, education, etc...
As one of those middle income guys, I feel like I'm already paying; the question now is what will I be paying for? Will it be something like single payer, or turning the desert into glass?
P.S. Rising interest rates and student loan debt worry me too...
And there's that slogan again...."Fair Share". Spoken like a true Socialist.

How much is YOUR fair share Kev....50% of your income sound good?
 
southwind said:
And there's that slogan again...."Fair Share". Spoken like a true Socialist.
How much is YOUR fair share Kev....50% of your income sound good?
Yes, companies that derive revenue(s) from the US, should pay taxes in the US. They use our roads to move product. They hire people we paid to educate, and so on. There's nothing "unfair" about them doing their part.
 

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