PITbull
Veteran
blueoceans said:
the non-union folks didn't lose their pensions...they had them frozen.
Unlike the pilots who HAVE HAD THEIR DEFINED PENSIONS TERMINATED, ALONG WITH THE DC PLAN DECIMATED.
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the non-union folks didn't lose their pensions...they had them frozen.
Unlike the pilots who HAVE HAD THEIR DEFINED PENSIONS TERMINATED, ALONG WITH THE DC PLAN DECIMATED.
PITbull
Veteran
N628AU said:
I won't bother to explain our situation to you....YOU DON'T HAVE ANY UNDERSTANDING ABOUT OUR JOB AND THE ENVIRONMENT IN WHICH WE WORK.
There is no one on here that can justify the company's actions on this maternity issue other than they want to discourage anyone who takes this job from having families. Period. :angry:
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Zeus & Hawk
You ARE NOT doing your FAIR part of the plan.
AS soon as you give up at least 15% pay cut and 1/3 of your vacation you will come closer to doing your FAIR SHARE.
As for staffing cuts, long over do. F/A staffing cuts were made years ago. Also less employees and planes mean less management.
U runs the company with 14% management type employees. What does the LCC run with? My guess is less 8% maybe 10%.
Your comments are full of holes.
You ARE NOT doing your FAIR part of the plan.
AS soon as you give up at least 15% pay cut and 1/3 of your vacation you will come closer to doing your FAIR SHARE.
As for staffing cuts, long over do. F/A staffing cuts were made years ago. Also less employees and planes mean less management.
U runs the company with 14% management type employees. What does the LCC run with? My guess is less 8% maybe 10%.
Your comments are full of holes.
PITbull
Veteran
What are you trying to convey on these boards, subliminal comi- nazi war strategies with the rank and file...
"Save the enitity, save the plan" BS. To hell with your personal lives or families...save the entity, save the "plan".....
You must really think we are stupid on here. You sic $%^k!
PITbull
Veteran
The cuts you speak of our DISPROPORTIONATE!.
You all in edited by moderator should lower your heads in shame with those kinds of sentiments you spew above.
You are pathetically shameful to even make such an assnine statment conveying YOU made any such sacrifice and compare yourself to the rank and file. :down: :angry:
I would bet my last full year's salary, that none and I mean natta one senior exec is conteplating filing personal BK, or has their mortgage in jeopardy or losing their cars...OR FREGG'EN LOSING ANY DAMN THING THEY OWN.
Todd B
Advanced
Yes sir and while you're at it tell pitbull wonder women to take a pill before she implodes, on the other hand, let her implode...edited by mod.Todd B said:
Cav, PitBull is our wonder woman!!!! She is the only one NOT to bow down and say "thank you SIR, may I have another". We all only have ONE vote, you use yours, and I will use mine. Don't vote, because otherwise we would just cancel ourselves out. Don't spread your "save the co. at ANY cost" mantra to those of us who KNOW better. :angry: 
I believe each of the three union's who do not have a new collective bargaining agreement can do better than what the company will present to the bankruptcy court during the S.1113© process, which is now less than one month away.
With the 3 TWU and the ALPA contracts ratified, Judge Mitchell will be more inclined to "impose" contracts on the remaining unions. Thus, the mission for each union should be to limit their damage to protect their membership.
Then if the cuts are too steep, an employee will have a job with benefits while looking for a job. It serves no useful purpose to try and "shut the place" down because then nobody has anything. What good is that?
Respectfully,
USA320Pilot
With the 3 TWU and the ALPA contracts ratified, Judge Mitchell will be more inclined to "impose" contracts on the remaining unions. Thus, the mission for each union should be to limit their damage to protect their membership.
Then if the cuts are too steep, an employee will have a job with benefits while looking for a job. It serves no useful purpose to try and "shut the place" down because then nobody has anything. What good is that?
Respectfully,
USA320Pilot
USA320pilot,
While you are content to be working for less, well actually you have indicated you would work for even less, others are not. If you want to subsidize incompetent management, then write a check every month and send it to Bruce and Dave. I dont think anyone on these boards would mind. I am sure you could find some fellow pilots to join you in your efforts.
What you have to understand is that there are some workers who value themselves and their professions more than you and your workgroup did. It does'nt matter what you say. We understand very clearly there is no difference between what the company is offering and the alterternative. Actually the Alternative is better. What you can't comprehend is that we will take the alternative,because its the right thing to do, and put an end to this race to the bottom.
MOD NOTE: DON"T QUOTE AN ENTIRE LENGTHY POSTING.
While you are content to be working for less, well actually you have indicated you would work for even less, others are not. If you want to subsidize incompetent management, then write a check every month and send it to Bruce and Dave. I dont think anyone on these boards would mind. I am sure you could find some fellow pilots to join you in your efforts.
What you have to understand is that there are some workers who value themselves and their professions more than you and your workgroup did. It does'nt matter what you say. We understand very clearly there is no difference between what the company is offering and the alterternative. Actually the Alternative is better. What you can't comprehend is that we will take the alternative,because its the right thing to do, and put an end to this race to the bottom.
MOD NOTE: DON"T QUOTE AN ENTIRE LENGTHY POSTING.
