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I can't wait to see the new hires of the future...
I believe it was in the eighties at TWA that newhires were warned that you couldn't afford to live on the pay unless you lived at home or with roommates, but that was true when I hired on in 1972. Base pay was $482 per month and expense money was 50 cents an hour. I got my own apartment in Long Beach, NY, in 1976 after getting a few raises. My rent was $235 per month, and I eked out a living. But we had a blast.

MK
 
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In July, bankrupt Northwest Airlines begins laying off thousands of ground workers, but not before issuing some of them a handy guide, "101 Ways to Save Money."

The advice includes dumpster diving ("Don't be shy about pulling something you like out of the trash"), making your own baby food, shredding old newspapers for use as cat litter, and taking walks in the woods as a low-cost dating alternative.
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I believe it was in the eighties at TWA that newhires were warned that you couldn't afford to live on the pay unless you lived at home or with roommates, but that was true when I hired on in 1972. Base pay was $482 per month and expense money was 50 cents an hour. I got my own apartment in Long Beach, NY, in 1976 after getting a few raises. My rent was $235 per month, and I eked out a living. But we had a blast.

MK

Your $482/mo starting pay in 1972 was pretty good. According to the BLS inflation calculator, that's equivalent to $2,657/mo in 2012, or about $31,900/year. Looks like flight attendant pay hasn't kept up with inflation, as today's starting pay is nowhere near $32k/yr.
 
My first paycheck was $123 (take home)...I was based in EWR. Yes we managed. No TV but we had an aquarium. We were all cute and young enough that dinner was usually paid for on layovers..lol I am happy that I flew for the best of the best, (Pan Am and TWA), when flying was special. I am proud of being a part of the generation that brought the job into the career range. It makes me sad to see decades of labor agreements wiped away "just because". Given many of the no cost items demanded this was more about control than cost savings. And now, AA has misjudged the pilots and I believe the passengers.... (and possibly other rank and file employees) It will be very hard to gain back any sort of good reputation in the industry.
 
My first paycheck was $123 (take home)...I was based in EWR. Yes we managed. No TV but we had an aquarium. We were all cute and young enough that dinner was usually paid for on layovers..lol I am happy that I flew for the best of the best, (Pan Am and TWA), when flying was special. I am proud of being a part of the generation that brought the job into the career range. It makes me sad to see decades of labor agreements wiped away "just because". Given many of the no cost items demanded this was more about control than cost savings. And now, AA has misjudged the pilots and I believe the passengers.... (and possibly other rank and file employees) It will be very hard to gain back any sort of good reputation in the industry.
As a mechanic who started with the airlines in the 80's, I got a small taste of what it used to be like "back in the day". Thank you and your freinds in the industry for what you did to better the profession.

We fought hard at NWA and made great strides only to have others give it all back through union infighting.

It pains me to see once great profession(s) wiped away like dust on a table (Be it F/A, Mechanic, Pilot).

I would still like to buy you a dinner on a layover...(;-)
 
Kev, this deserves the whole list:


So here are the 101 Ways To Save Money from the 4-page “Preparing for a Financial Setback” including the now famous #46 “Don’t be shy about pulling something you like out of the trash.”

Brought to you by a rich airline executive who was just awarded a bonus for ringing concessions from the minions.

1. Set your thermostat to 64 and turn it down to 60 at night.
2. Use the phone book instead of directory assistance.
3. Use coupons at the grocery store.
4. Carpool.
5. Ask for generic prescriptions instead of brand name.
6. Do your own nails.
7. Rent out a room or garage.
8. Replace 100 watt bulbs with 60 watt.
9. Make long distance calls at night and on weekends, instead of mid-day, mid-week.
10. Throw pocket change in a jar and take it to the bank when it's full.
11. Always grocery shop with a list.
12. Buy spare parts for your car at a junkyard.
13. Go to museums on free days.
14. Quit smoking.
15. Get hand-me-down clothes and toys for your kids from family and friends.
16. Meet friends for coffee instead of dinner.
17. Request to get interest on a security deposit for your apartment.
18. Take a shorter shower.
19. Write letters instead of calling.
20. Brown bag your lunch.
21. Make your own babyfood.
22. Use public transportation.
23. Drop duplicate medical insurance.
24. Buy old furniture at yard sales and refinish it yourself.
25. Apply for scholarships and financial aid.
26. Exercise for free-walk, jog, bike, or get exercise videos from the library.
27. Form a baby-sitting cooperative with friends and neighbors.
28. Buy your clothes off season.
29. Go to a matinee instead of an evening show.
30. Share housing with a friend or family member.
31. Hang clothes out to dry.
32. Do not use your calling card.
33. Volunteer two hours a month for reduced cost food through the Share Program.
34. Change the oil in your car yourself regularly.
35. Get pre-approval from your medical insurance company before undergoing any procedures or tests.
36. But 'no frills' vitamins.
37. Take a date for a walk along the beach or in the woods.
38. Make cards and gifts for friends.
39. Shop in thrift stores.
40. Have your water company do an audit so you are not charged sewage fees for water used in your garden.
41. Refinance your mortgage.
42. Grocery shop on double coupon days.
43. Trade down your car for a less expensive, lower maintenance one.
44. Convert your cash value life insurance to term.
45. Shop around for eyeglasses.
46. Don’t be shy about pulling something you like out of the trash.
47. Recycle.
48. Move to a less expensive place to live.
49. Use low flush toilets or water saving devices in the tank.
50. Drop unneeded telephone services like call forwarding or caller ID.
51. Buy fruits and vegetables in season.
52. Avoid using your ATM card at machines that charge a fee.
53. Bicycle to work.
54. Shop around for auto insurance discounts for multiple drivers, seniors, good driving records, etc.
55. Ask your doctor for samples of prescriptions.
56. Borrow a dress for a big night out. or go to a consignment shop.
57. When you buy a home negotiate the sales price and closing costs.
58. Turn the hot water heater down and wrap it with insulation.
59. Never grocery shop hungry.
60. If you qualify, file for Earned Income Credit.
61. Shop around for prescriptions including mail order companies (Medi-Mail 800-331-1458, Action Mail Order Drugs 800-452-1976, and AARP 800-456-2277).
62. If you pay for childcare, make use of the dependent care tax credit or your employer's dependent care flexible spending account.
63. Buy, sell, and trade clothes at consignment shops.
64. Shop around for the lowest banking fees.
65. Caulk windows and doors.
66. Iron your own shirts.
67. Plan your weekly food menu before shopping.
68. Buy a good used car instead of a new model car.
69. Purchase all of your insurance from the same company to get a discount.
70. Cut your cable television down to basic.
71. Go to an optometrist for routine vision tests or to change an eyeglass prescription.
72. Buy pre-owned toys and children's books at garage sales.
73. Have potluck dinners with friends and family instead of going out.
74. Use the library for books, video tapes, and music.
75. Inspect clothing carefully before purchasing it.
76. Don't use your dishwasher dry cycle; open the door and let them air dry all night.
77. At the grocery store, comparison shop by looking at the unit price.
78. Make your own coffee.
79. Use old newspapers for cat litter.
80. Shop at discount clothing stores.
81. Skip annual full mouth x-rays unless there is a problem; the ADA recommends x-rays every 3 years.
82. Water your garden at night or early in the morning.
83. Shop around for long distance rates.
84. Hand wash instead of dry cleaning.
85. Grow your own vegetables and herbs.
86. Shop around for auto financing.
87. Donate time instead of money to religious organizations and charities.
88. If you are leaving a room for more than five minutes, turn off the light.
89. Shop at auctions or pawn shops for jewelry and antiques.
90. Keep your car properly tuned.
91. Request lower interest rates from your creditors.
92. Trade in old books, records, and CDs at book and record exchanges.
93. Pay bills the day they arrive; many credit card companies charge interest based on your average daily balance.
94. Buy software at computer fares.
95. Search the internet for freebies.
96. Compost to make your own fertilizer.
97.If your car has very little value, you probably only need liability insurance.
98. Cut the kids hair yourself.
99. Increase your insurance deductible.
100. Buy in bulk food warehouses.
101. If your income is low, contact utility companies about reduced rates.
 
Congratulations to the 2,205 that are leaving.
Wishing much success in all your future endeavors.
 
Just a piece of trivia...

I had stated earlier that the people taking the VEOP were not necessarily the most senior people that the company wanted to take it. My source has been proved wrong to some extent. I was comparing the VEOP list to base rosters today. Quite a number of the very senior in each base took the VEOP. For instance, at IDF, 46 of the 50 most senior flight attendants took the VEOP!

The #2 flight attendant took it. So, now there is only one f/a left who started flying for American before I started high school. Darn.
 
Your $482/mo starting pay in 1972 was pretty good.
It was comparable to other entry level jobs I looked into after college, but in the NY area, after paying my share of the apartment, my car payment and college loans, there was precious little left.

My best spending power was in the early eighties when I was flying service manager (Purser to AA) on international making in the low forties on my W2. Then came Icahn and it's been downhill ever since.

MK
 
Jim, number 1-5 took the VEOP. Also numbers 7 & 8. 6 & 9 are the new 1 & 2. I have flown with 9 and she has already insinuated that she has no desire to leave. Fine by me, as long as she is happy, who cares. By the way she does still fly. Also 1 & 5 are from LAX-I. 2 & 4 are from IOR and 3 is from IMA. so you can check the list.
 
From the APFA:

So far about 40 FAs have elected to take the Travel Separation Program.
 
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