Flight canceled mid-air, heads back to Charlotte
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I put this one primarily on the dispatcher. He/She had the ability to call that airport and ask whether they would allow this operation to continue in and be there by probably 12:15-12:30. The pilot doesn't have as easy access to call that airport and would have needed to use a cell phone from the flight deck to do it independently.
Without a pre-clearance to be able to land there I see no reason why the plane was allowed to take off at 11:43 PM.
Oh, BTW, what was ATC thinking?
Without a pre-clearance to be able to land there I see no reason why the plane was allowed to take off at 11:43 PM.
Oh, BTW, what was ATC thinking?
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"U.S. Airways Flight 3203" periods and all for an Express flight. Copy editor was off today, I guess.
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Newz media FAIL.
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Southern Hospitality!!! Welcome folks to Charleston, I mean Charlotte... 
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"When we landed and they said, 'You can use your cell phone now,' there were a lot of cranky people on cell phones."
How could they be cranky?
Charlotte is the best thing in the South since grits.
How could they be cranky?
Charlotte is the best thing in the South since grits.
Be Careful What You Wish For.
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Imagine if they had landed in the 'Burgh? Their newspaper could continue its "cordial" coverage of US Air.
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US Air is not news in PIT.
Not when the plane has left the gate and the CA has signed the release that says...
... both runways are closed 0401-1000 dly. No need for an iPhone, the Mark I iBalls and basic command SA do the job just fine.
If this happened at PDT, the captain would be nailed to the floor and unable to dance.
Shiny Jet Syndrome: We can shoot CAT II LOC approaches! NOTAM? Whazzat?
From the Shartle America CLE overrun in 2007-
The ASAP report included the words, "we regained sight of the runway at 50', and elected to continue to landing."
Again, read my post.
Way before things went pear-shaped, the CA had printed proof that nothing is allowed to land in CHS after midnight.
The radio exchange en route with JAX proves it- they confirmed they had no idea the airport was closing (in two minutes, when queried.)
The information could have easily flowed from the CA to DX, in the form of, "Hey, this here release I signed? The one what says I am aware of all factors applicable to this flight? Yeah, it says CHS is closing. Call and ask if they will keep it open, if not- we're back to the gate."
Way before things went pear-shaped, the CA had printed proof that nothing is allowed to land in CHS after midnight.
The radio exchange en route with JAX proves it- they confirmed they had no idea the airport was closing (in two minutes, when queried.)
The information could have easily flowed from the CA to DX, in the form of, "Hey, this here release I signed? The one what says I am aware of all factors applicable to this flight? Yeah, it says CHS is closing. Call and ask if they will keep it open, if not- we're back to the gate."
The Captain, as PIC and the final authority, screwed up, no question. That doesn't mean that the DX wasn't at fault as well, just that he wasn't entirely at fault. I'd say 60/40 on the CA on the grounds that while DX should have said "Dude, you ain't gonna make it in time" the CA should have said the same thing while he was safely on the ground and had full control of his aircraft to prevent the mistake. They both have culpability, but in the end it falls to the PIC. It should also be noted that DX is responsible for reading the NOTAMs as well.
