Former TWA 757s

[IORFA]

The Airbus is/was like that back by 3L/R. I used to buckle the seatbelt around the outside of the J/S to prevent that little problem.

 

[Skymess]

You mean R3? What I didn't like was them using your jumpseat as a footrest for the whole flight and then glaring at you when you wanted it back for landing.

MK

One of my main motivators for not allowing anyone to use the JS as a footrest is because they push back the seat pad and expose the velcro which is a real b*tch on stockings. Other than that, I just don't like to sit on a dirty jumpseat that their feet have been all over. The jumpseat is for sitting, not resting your feet on.

 

[Nor'Easta]

You mean R3? What I didn't like was them using your jumpseat as a footrest for the whole flight and then glaring at you when you wanted it back for landing.

MK

Yes, it's the 3R j/s location. That's the j/s the #4 f/a sits in. I feel sorry for any f/a who is tall, that has to sit on the #4 (3R) j/s.

 

[Crapdog]

Does anyone know the status of the former TWA 757's (we call it the 752) here at AA. A mechanic told me the other day they will all be gone by the end of the year, hence the reason no mods were done to revamp galleys and bins.

Can anyone confirm this?

If true, it certainly doesn't help the recall situation...

Two have been put back into service a few months ago at DFW. They came in on a ferry permit with a huge work package for reinstatement into revenue service. I believe they had HMG's for overwater flights.

 

[flyhigh]

...what is AA using on the BOS-MAN & SNN flights?

 

[IORFA]

Original AA ETOPS 757's with winglets.

 

[jimntx]

I get amused when other f/as complain about the "old" TW 75s. (All of us dislike the ovens in F/C). However, the TW 75s are much younger than the AA 75s. The drop down LCD screens had not even been invented when AA bought its 75s. That's why the AA 75s have the CRT monitors hanging from the ceiling. Even after the LCD screens came into use, AA ordered new a/c with the CRT monitors for fleet consistency.

 

[nbmcg01]

I get amused when other f/as complain about the "old" TW 75s. (All of us dislike the ovens in F/C). However, the TW 75s are much younger than the AA 75s. The drop down LCD screens had not even been invented when AA bought its 75s. That's why the AA 75s have the CRT monitors hanging from the ceiling. Even after the LCD screens came into use, AA ordered new a/c with the CRT monitors for fleet consistency.

And the cabin set=up is much more f/a and pax friendly...

 

[kirkpatrick]

I believe they had HMG's for overwater flights.

All 27 of TWA's 757's were ETOPS certified. I don't know if the paperwork or whatever has to be done to keep them that way was kept up, or not.

MK

(All of us dislike the ovens in F/C

Just curious: what's wrong with the ovens? I recall doing rather elaborate services from them on the Atlantic, and liked the overall galley setup very much. Is it that they don't fit your equipment?

MK

 

[jimntx]

Just curious: what's wrong with the ovens? I recall doing rather elaborate services from them on the Atlantic, and liked the overall galley setup very much. Is it that they don't fit your equipment?

MK

The AA ovens are all very deep and have large racks that fit into them. You can put 7 or 8 entrees on one rack. Since the TW ovens are much shallower, the racks hold at best 2 entrees each.

Also, catering can't seem to decide how to deal with them.
They are supposed to be delivered to the a/c pre-loaded with the entrees on those removable rack frames. Usually, if it's just biscuits and bagels the ovens are pre-loaded, but invariably if you have 16 entrees, the caterer puts the entrees on serving trays in the cart which means that the f/a must then load the ovens along with everything else that needs to be done during boarding.

And, if it's breakfast and you have the bake-on-board biscuits, the ovens need to be preheated before putting in the biscuits. About 90% of the time, the caterer decides to pre-load the oven with the biscuits and bagels which then have to be taken out of the oven so you can pre-heat. And, the biscuits need to be cooked in a much hotter oven than the bagels and the omelets; so, of course, the caterer mixes the biscuits in with bagels and entrees which then all have to be separated. (I know that a lot of f/as don't preheat the ovens and they cook everything at the same temperature, but I'm a Southern boy. I won't go to heaven if I don't cook biscuits properly. )

And, this doesn't even take into account the times that the caterer puts all the entrees in the cart and then fails to provide you with the rack frame that holds the racks in place. We've been told it's a fire hazard to use an oven that doesn't have the frame in place.

Don't even suggest that we write it up on the catering papers. If it only inconveniences the f/a, I can assure you no action will be taken to correct the problem. But, don't get me started...

 

[Skymess]

Just curious: what's wrong with the ovens? I recall doing rather elaborate services from them on the Atlantic, and liked the overall galley setup very much. Is it that they don't fit your equipment?

MK

AA oven racks are the same length as the cart so you can pop the rack right out of the oven and into the cart.

 

[nbmcg01]

AA oven racks are the same length as the cart so you can pop the rack right out of the oven and into the cart.

We did a lot of bulk cooking and plating from the f/c galley. I think our ovens held 21 meals. 3 plates on 7 rows. Could be wrong. The f/as had a lot of input into the galley set ups. I was one of the negotiators of our staffing agreement. 1 FSM (Purser) + 6 f/as..lol
the 8th jumpseat was added for Intn. We eventually flew it with 1 and 4 bid staffing. The reason is the extra doors vs window exits. That was "my baby" and I miss it.

 

[nyc6035]

And the cabin set=up is much more f/a and pax friendly...

Yes...the Transatalantic configuration in F on N701-704TW was great. 16 Seats and about 50-55" Pitch. Not quite TW1 seats on the 767 or the 747...but quite nice from a Pax perspective.

 

[kirkpatrick]

AA oven racks are the same length as the cart so you can pop the rack right out of the oven and into the cart.

Just as I thought. It's a mismatch of the way you do things vs the way we did things. We had no need for those extra deep ovens, as we didn't load trays of entrees into carts. We plated most of our meals in FC and the ovens held the tins of bulk vegetables, etc, just fine.

The best FC galley of all time was the 747 galley, initially known as the 530 galley, since it began 530 inches from the nose of the airplane. The other galleys were the 830 and the 1694.

I know; I'm dating myself.

MK

 

[eolesen]

FYI...those 4 F-100's have a lease to around 2012 or so, it doesn't show their lease on this report.

Last I'd heard, there was a Mexican carrier interested in subleasing the last four F100's from AA thru lease expiration. If they head to TUL, that's why.