Freedom of Speech

It was easy. Watch the video's. See who dodged the questions and see who faced the fire head on. Hint it wasn't the guy with the three purple hearts. For me John Kerry's major claim to fame was having the good sense to marry Teresa Heinz, Heiress to the Heinz fortune and widow of former US Senator John Heinz from PA.


BS....again. Listed to what Kerry said just as security was getting involved. He said "it's alright. Let me answer the question." Security saw a possible threat/disruption and dealt with it as they saw fit. If you have a beef with security then contact their boss. Kerry had nothing to do with it.

Kerry served honorably in viet nam. If you have an issue with his purple hearts then talk to the officers who approved them.

Gov. Christie was being asked a legitimate question, not something about the Skull and Bones that both Bush and Kerry belonged too which had nothing to do with anything. Security did not like it so they dealt with it. You beef is with them, not Kerry.
 
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BS....again. Listed to what Kerry said just as security was getting involved. He said "it's alright. Let me answer the question." Security saw a possible threat/disruption and dealt with it as they saw fit. If you have a beef with security then contact their boss. Kerry had nothing to do with it.

Kerry served honorably in viet nam. If you have an issue with his purple hearts then talk to the officers who approved them.

Gov. Christie was being asked a legitimate question, not something about the Skull and Bones that both Bush and Kerry belonged too which had nothing to do with anything. Security did not like it so they dealt with it. You beef is with them, not Kerry.

If Kerry had any real level of testosterone, we would have demanded the Campus Gestapo cease and desist, which he halfheartedly does. If I recall the charges against young Andrew were dropped, AFTER the married into the lucky sperm club speaker aka Kerry had left.

Popular speech doesn't need protection, it's unpopular speech like Andrew's that does. Kerry IMO could have easily stopped the Campus goon squad if he had wanted to. Also ANY question asked of an elected official is by its very nature "Legitimate" as they work for us not the other way around.
 
I am pretty sure Kerry has no authority over the 'goon squad'. It seems Andrews was seeking to disrupt the meeting. He handed his camera phone to someone else before stepping to the mic and had a history of disrupting events. The response of the police was over the top and Kerry had nothing to do with it. To blame this on him is laughable at best but I expect nothing less from you. You hate everything dem so what else is new.
 
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I am pretty sure Kerry has no authority over the 'goon squad'. It seems Andrews was seeking to disrupt the meeting. He handed his camera phone to someone else before stepping to the mic and had a history of disrupting events. The response of the police was over the top and Kerry had nothing to do with it. To blame this on him is laughable at best but I expect nothing less from you. You hate everything dem so what else is new.

No law stating that the exercise of ones rights has to be non disruptive. Seems young Andrew was exercising his God Given rights to me. Or could it be that you don't care for his speech? Seems to me that I recall a recent exercise of the God Given right to question your government in Wisconsin that got pretty wild and wooly, primary difference once you throw scope out is one was questioning the actions of a duly elected Republican and the other was questioning one of the anointed Liberal darlings.

sniff sniff, I smell the foul stench of hypocrisy wafting over the water cooler.
 
You can smell what ever you want to. I never said that Andrews speech did not deserve to be protected. Security went over board. If he was being disruptive then he gets escorted out (as happens in every public event). If you resist you are gong to get your butt handed to you. Andrews got what he wanted. He got attention. That is why he handed his camera over to be filmed because he knew what he was going to do. The people who attend the functions have rights as well. If you are going to ask questions fine. He was rambling on and being disruptive. He was looking for a confrontation and he got it.

What I called BS on is the assertion that the speak has any say over how security is handled.
 
You can smell what ever you want to. I never said that Andrews speech did not deserve to be protected. Security went over board. If he was being disruptive then he gets escorted out (as happens in every public event). If you resist you are gong to get your butt handed to you. Andrews got what he wanted. He got attention. That is why he handed his camera over to be filmed because he knew what he was going to do. The people who attend the functions have rights as well. If you are going to ask questions fine. He was rambling on and being disruptive. He was looking for a confrontation and he got it.

What I called BS on is the assertion that the speak has any say over how security is handled.

Having spoken in public to as many as 800 airline workers I can tell you first hand that a speaker does have at least some control over what happens in a room. Maintaining order is as much the speakers responsibility as it is any one.

Perhaps if Mr Kerry had forcefully responded and challenged the questioner order might have been maintained.
 
Who are you trying to fool? Nothing Kerry did/does or will do will meet your approval.


Well you're wrong there. I wholeheartedly approved of his well calculated marriage to Teresa Heinz.

As for fooling anyone, Dell knows I spoke to his colleagues when the GreenTree Res center closed so does Dog.

How I ended up here is that as a US Airways Chairman's Preferred I helped organize a frequent flyer group that to date has been the only such group to meet with a major airline at the Senior VP level.

Secondly I am a corporate sales trainer who speaks in front of people on average 12 days per month and as one of the former VP's of Marketing told me "You've earned the street cred for your positions even if I dispute most of them."

And to add to the "Cred" for the last 24 years I've been in charge of the Traffic & Safety crew at two major music festivals. I know people.
 
You are not under the same constraints as a politician. Security at a political event involving a US senator are under different constraints than what ever security might be at a union meeting or sales meeting.

I still seriously doubt there is anything any dem/liberal could do that you would approve of.
 
You are not under the same constraints as a politician. Security at a political event involving a US senator are under different constraints than what ever security might be at a union meeting or sales meeting.

I still seriously doubt there is anything any dem/liberal could do that you would approve of.

Not 100% true as I have one thing over John Kerry. I can cost a Sales Rep his job if he/she disrupts. Andrew however remains unharmed by his actions except for any trauma he received from his encounter with a Taser.

Well I do have a hard time with a political party that has since 1913 done:

Created the Federal Reserve under Wilson
Initiated our involvement in WWI
Initiated the Federal Income tax
And since some would argue that Fed Money Policy led to the Great Depression I'll lay that at the Dems feet also
The Socialist policies of FDR arguably lengthening the Depression
FDR & WWII, He ordered the oil embargo that led to Pearl Harbor.
Johnson for the Build up in Viet Nam
Obama Lama ding dong for not repealing the Patriot Act
Obama Lama ding dong for bailing out GM, stacking the deck against Boeing, etc etc
Obama Lama ding dong for the staggering debt/deficit
Carter's weakness that led to the hostage taking

And this is just off the top of my head. Now in all fairness Obama did order the hit on Usama Bin Laden. Kudos for that. But to hear him on the campaign trail you'd think he repelled down the rope, M-16 in hand and personally pulled the trigger. A false bravado that I find offensive and blatantly disrespectful to the SEALS who train a veritable lifetime for just such missions.

Catch ya later I'm going to go cling to my guns and religion.
 
Britain Extends Ban on Radio Host Michael Savage

Wednesday, 25 May 2011 11:53 AM

By Andra Varin

Britain has a message for Michael Savage: You’re still not welcome here.

The conservative radio host was first put on a list of people not allowed to enter the United Kingdom in 2009. Savage was banned as a “hate promoter” whose views were considered likely to incite violence.


Savage's attorneys have received word from the British government that the ban is still in effect, and he must wait until December to reapply for entry.

“Your client has not provided any evidence to show that he did not commit the unacceptable behaviour" that prompted the "decision to exclude him, nor has your client provided any acceptable evidence to show his repudiation of those unacceptable behaviours,” a representative of the United Kingdom's treasury solicitor said in a letter to Savage’s British attorney, according to World Net Daily.

However, official government correspondence indicates that Savage is on the list mainly to provide "balance" because of the number of Islamic extremists included.

Savage said it was ridiculous for President Barack Obama, on a state visit to Britain, to be talking with British Prime Minister David Cameron about promoting democracy in the Arab world.

"How about democracy in the U.K.?" asked Savage. "The freedom to a trial? The freedom of appeal? The freedom to set the record straight?

Savage tells Newsmax: "First, if I am guilty of a thought crime so is everyone who reads your column. Second, when has speech become illegal? Third, I was never allowed to defend my name and reputation. Fourth, liberals used to say [quoting French philosopher Voltaire], 'While I may disagree with what you say I will defend to the death your right to say it.'"But now that 'progressives' have stolen liberalism, freedom of speech is dead for independents?"

The San Francisco-based Savage, known for his fiery right-wing views, is one of 22 people who have been banned from entering Britain since October, when the government concluded that they were agents of extremism and intolerance.

Like I've said before, "popular" Speech doesn't need protection, it's unpopular speech.