Gauntlet thrown down in PHL

[wings396]

And the "Intimidation Factor" In PHL is alive and well I see. Let's all put our jobs on the line for this group of Goons, who we all don't really want around here anyway.
" Maybe we can get fired, just like they did"
And people wonder why PHL has a Bad reputation....

 

[Smartest Loser]

And the "Intimidation Factor" In PHL is alive and well I see. Let's all put our jobs on the line for this group of Goons, who we all don't really want around here anyway.
" Maybe we can get fired, just like they did"
And people wonder why PHL has a Bad reputation....

The IAM did nothing when the first Airbus crossed the tracks down in Alabama...nothing will happen here. Promise…!!

SL

 

[700UW]

The IAM went to federal court and got an injuction and the MEMBERSHIP were the one who did not want to strike.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[Awa Contract]

after the IAM had them vote on the same POS twice - How many of thier own members did they beat to get the results they wanted.

 

[robbedagain]

The IAM went to federal court and got an injuction and the MEMBERSHIP were the one who did not want to strike.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

but still under the old brutal regime, the planes still went to the idiots of TIMCO and soem of them came back still in desperate repair needs

 

[Justaramper]

700...
It appears that this attack was a pre-planned one and not just a spur of the moment thing. Which would probably take some planning/coordination, which could have been done on "union time". Do you see how that logic could easily be used in court..? It really looks like the sun is setting on the fine individuals from PHL, I'd be looking to plea bargain ASAP

Randy Canale made his bed with the PHL "folks" in 1999, as he felt he needed them in order for the IAM to run as a fine tuned machine. But since he lives or is from that area, how would he think any different.

7 years later, it has bit him in the a$$ and now will be his biggest problem. But his union may not be the union of choice.

So, Randy...Nice thinking buddy, your in a world of S*%T

 

[AP Tech]

MEMBERSHIP were the one who did not want to strike.

Somehow I do not remember participating with a strike vote :huh:

Oh wait I forgot, you said Roach visited some stations and shifts and took a poll...... :down: Very professional :down:

 

[Pacemaker]

A job action in PHL?...how would you even tell the difference? It's been SOP for like the last 15 years, hasn't it?

 

[700UW]

but still under the old brutal regime, the planes still went to the idiots of TIMCO and soem of them came back still in desperate repair needs

No US Airways/East plane went to Timco, then went to Singapore Technologies Mobile Aerospace at Brookley Field at Mobile, AL.

The IAM won the arbitration, and the company filed chapter 11 a second time to get out of paying the millions in damages to the IAM.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

 

[NeedForSpeed]

That's why your union is stupid! You pushed the issues and they still beat you because the underlying trith is Roachclip doesn't want to lose the dues revenue.

It's ALWAYS about money in any situation. Why would Roachclip want to strike? All it does for IAM is cost them money when they can MAKE MONEY by NOT acting in the workers best interest?

You were the last union and you had a chance to play hardball because the company WOULD have liquidated if you guys went out. So what did IAM do? What they usually do which is nothing. Their decision to put the last offer out for a vote ensured passage of a contract that could have been better AND preserved dues revenue without the cost of a strike or any further legal action.

Say what you will spin it however you want but IAM is a dues grubbing dinosaur and is one of the primary reasons web sites like Union Facts exist.

Watch it, Piney....I believe "Union Facts" is banned from this thread It may even get you a trip to the cornfield for just uttering it!!!

 

[700UW]

Union is stupid?

Since when did you become an expert on unions?

You don't know anything about unions excpet you hate them.

The IAM has more money then the ibt or twu and is financially strong.

It has a college level, award winning training center.

The IAM had no choice to push the issue, when the company violates the CBA, you have to fight it through the courts or grievance procedure.

Ok mr-know-it-all since you are not a union member, iam member, us employee or member of US labor relations, please explain to me how you can trust a company that after you just gave them two rounds of labor concessions then they go out and blantanly violate your contract with an outsourcing dispute?

The company wanted to basically eliminatet the mtc dept, that is all they wanted and wanted nothing else. The IAM gave the company a package worth the ask that preserved more jobs and the company rejected and they rejected it because it kept too many jobs and they did not want to manage the workforce.

Since you were not there nor involved I would not expect you to know this at all.

Like I said you have no idea or what transpired and you are no expert on labor relations.

Go ask Pitbull, she has posted it numerous times on exactly what happened with the IAM and US. She witnessed it right down the hall, if you don't believe me, I know you will believe her.

Time to put up bobby, lets see your infintate wisdom here.

Once again you prove you know nothing about unions.

 

[fanlube]

The IAM went to federal court and got an injuction and the MEMBERSHIP were the one who did not want to strike.

Don't let the facts get in your way.

Here are the facts, after months of tough talk by the IAM I'm sure you still have your HEY DAVE T-Shirt and all the we will strike if they farm out one Airbus and this will be a major dispute talk by the IAM there was NEVER preparations made by any local to strike, no permits, no phone trees, no strike committe, and not a single strike vote was taken! You come on this board and say ROACH visted some stations and the members told him they didn't want to strike, dude there wasn't even a slowdown when those planes left. The IAM has lost all credibility and the handling of the Airbus issue in my mind was where it started! The IAM was so scared that it might get fined by a judge if anything happened to disrupt the operation that they went out of their way to tell everyone to keep working! If ever there was a justification for a job action the Airbus issue was the time, that is why members pay dues, to pay fines and to fund strike funds, not so local lodge officers can go to retreats in Hawaii, and I won't even get into the issue of the companies final offer issue where the LEADERSHIP totally failed. You can blame members all you want that is what incompetent leaders do best!

 

[markkus757]

Apparently, I wasn't present during any the previously mentionad items either. I do know what eliminating the competition looks like and that's what those people were there to do. No AGC goes into the same room shortly before a major rumble starts and leaves shortly before it happens if it is not coordinated. If the TWU would've said the right things to that guy, he would not have sicked the pack of dogs on them. Go ahead and deflect that, I smell some dirty lavs at this point. :down:

 

[700UW]

In CLT we had the permits, phone tree, assignments of who called who, e-mail addresses and such.

The CLT local set up a strike committee, which I was part of.

After Roach's visit to PHL where the Mechanics told him to "go to hell" it was clear a strike would have not been succesful.

Once the Judge in PIT declared it a major dispute, which he did, the IAM would have been free to strike under the RLA with no fines imposed.

And even if we struck the company would have sought an injunction as the PHL appeals court ruled it a minor dispute.

I can't speak for other stations, but the leadership in CLT was prepared and ready to pull the trigger.

And yes I got my Dave Shirt.

 

[delldude]

The IAM has lost all credibility and the handling of the Airbus issue in my mind was where it started! The IAM was so scared that it might get fined by a judge if anything happened to disrupt the operation that they went out of their way to tell everyone to keep working! If ever there was a justification for a job action the Airbus issue was the time, that is why members pay dues, to pay fines and to fund strike funds, not so local lodge officers can go to retreats in Hawaii, and I won't even get into the issue of the companies final offer issue where the LEADERSHIP totally failed. You can blame members all you want that is what incompetent leaders do best!

and so vote in IBT and the masses will once again awaken?