Gay Marriage

[Ms Tree]

Yes libtards are really good at trying to reinvent things to sell lies.

 
What is being reinvented?  Civil marriage is a simple two person contract.  ANd what lie would that be?

 

[delldude]

How's that 14th doing tonite?
 

 
The judges in the majority argued that it wasn't their role to define marriage, saying that decision should rest with voters.

 

 
The judges decided that the will of voters concerning traditional marriage must be respected.

 
http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2014/11/06/michigan-gay-marriage-ruling-decision-quotes/18613841/

 

[Ms Tree]

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/07/us/appeals-court-upholds-same-sex-marriage-ban.html?_r=0
 
Looks like the 6th Circuit court just sealed the fate of the same sex marriage bans in the country.  This will send the case to the SCOTUS and the 6th is going to get reversed.  Thirty states now allow same sex marriage and I seriously doubt they are going to reverse the decisions from the other courts which were based on the SCOTUS argument from the DOMA decision.  
 
Seems to me that the SCOTUS allowed them selves to be backed into a corner so they could have some cover when they chit can the marriage bans.  Very weird way of doing business.

 

[delldude]

Read something during a previous 'successful' appeal mentioned a distinct possibility SCOTUS might take a similar stance and not define marriage.
 
Would be quite a day....
 

 
“As the Sixth Circuit rightly concluded, the Constitution does not demand that one irreversible view of marriage be judicially imposed on everyone.”

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

Glad to see you changed your sig, Dell!

 

[delldude]

Glad to see you changed your sig, Dell!

 
I had a moment....

 

[Ms Tree]

South Carolina bites the dust.  Lets see if the governor is going to appeal it.  SCOTUS ended the sat in Kansas.  The dominoes just keep falling. 

 

[AdAstraPerAspera]

Great news!

 

[delldude]

Most agree the marriage definition should be a states rights issue.
 
 

 
Since 1998 and across the early 2000s, millions of Americans voted at the state level to define marriage as the union of a man and woman and more than 38 states have such laws on their books today. Yet with state and district courts overturning those laws across the country and the Supreme Court punting on the issue earlier this fall, a number of questions increasingly come in to play:

•      Should the definition of marriage be decided state by state, and how does that then affect federal law dealing with marriage?
•      What happens if, as we’re seeing happen, the courts take the issue out of the hands of individual states and bans their right to define marriage in their state and also forces them to recognize the marriage laws of other states?
•      How do we protect the religious freedoms of business owners, churches and others who don’t want to participate in same-sex marriages–a problem we’re already encountering?

 
http://dailysignal.com/2014/11/14/words-2016-gop-hopefuls-marriage/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

None of the rest of it should even have to be said.
 
Since 1998 and across the early 2000s, millions of Americans voted at the state level to define marriage as the union of a man and woman and more than 38 states have such laws on their books today. Yet with state and district courts overturning those laws across the country and the Supreme Court punting on the issue earlier this fall, a number of questions increasingly come in to play:
 
The fact is Americans VOTED on this issue because that is what they wanted. The courts took it upon themselves to IMPOSE their will upon the people.
 
This is nothing more than an assault on American culture and values by the left.

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

None of the rest of it should even have to be said.
 
Since 1998 and across the early 2000s, millions of Americans voted at the state level to define marriage as the union of a man and woman and more than 38 states have such laws on their books today. Yet with state and district courts overturning those laws across the country and the Supreme Court punting on the issue earlier this fall, a number of questions increasingly come in to play:
 
The fact is Americans VOTED on this issue because that is what they wanted. The courts took it upon themselves to IMPOSE their will upon the people.
 
This is nothing more than an assault on American culture and values by the left.

Notice the cowards gave me a -2 but they didn't post anything.

 

[Ms Tree]

How can you be so clueless as not understand how this country works?  According to your POV, the blacks in this country still might not have equal rights had the courts not intervened.  Basic human rights do not get put up for a vote.  That is not how this country operates.  The majority of people do not get to dictate the rights of the minority.  Were a city to pass a law that banned the KKK it would be in violation of the COTUS.  To ban a segment of society from entering into a simple civil contract is a violation of the law.  The Supreme Court and all the lower courts (with the exception of the 6th) understand this.  

 

[Ms Tree]

Sixth circuit decision is appealed to the Supreme Court.  I would not be surprised if they some how figure out a way to deny the case and send it back for review some how.  No idea how they would do that but it seems that the court is doing everything it can not to take a case that would force them to reverse all the marriage equality bans that are left in the country.  
 
http://news.yahoo.com/same-sex-couples-file-supreme-court-appeal-180457157--politics.html
 
I'll bet pennies to dollars that if the court rules it will be more than a 5/4 split.  We all know Scalia and Thomas will be on the wrong side of history.  No surprise there.  I would not be surprised if Roberts and Alito decide to abandon their prejudice and go along with the majority.  I don't think they want to be known in the history books as the activist conservative judges who decided to deny equal rights to US citizens.  A decision like that would haunt them till their dying day.

 

[delldude]

Where is marriage guaranteed in the COTUS?

 

[La Li Lu Le Lo]

Where is marriage guaranteed in the COTUS?

It's not. He is making up lies to push his atheist agenda. 700UW and Ms Tree, the two biggest liars on this board.
 
Only a moron would compare the suppression of blacks in this country to a bunch of sexual deviants trying to force a cultural change.
 
Mark my words, if you offered gays a civil union that had all contractual rights of marriage the left would turn their noses up at it. This has nothing to do with marriage, this has to do with them trying to use the government to impose a cultural change on the citizens of the United States.
 
This is nothing more than widespread manipulation.