Here today gone tomorrow?

[Garfield1966]

Maybe your next scab action will be at WN helping to break their union.

I bet SWA would pay him double time for that service.

 

[Bagbelt]

I bet you're just so precious and smarter than everyone.

 

[Garfield1966]

I bet you're just so precious and smarter than everyone.

Not sure about that but I know I am smart enough not to join a union.

 

[FlyUs]

Please explain Southwest Airlines to me, The most unionized airline in the country, and also the most profitable... :blink:

Because they outsource a lot of their work.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

Because they outsource a lot of their work.

And due to the substandard work of some of their OSV's they've brought some of that work back in house.

 

[PlayTheOdds]

What happens to NWA stock if they merge with another company?

 

[proAMT]

You eat the loss SCAB! hahahahahahahahhahahahahahaha

Only about 1/3 of the poll participents expect NW to be around this time next year?

Yeah I want part of that.



Seriously Scab,

TWA merged with American and there are many former TWA personnel who read this bb. Why not ask them what they got for their TWA stock?

 

[Dea Certe]

What happens to NWA stock if they merge with another company?

I have to wonder who would merge with NWA at this time? Old airplanes, a very disgruntled workforce and a on-going strike. Some great routes in Asia but very stiff competition from foreign carriers who can "do it better" than any US airline.

Something else is afoot here and I doubt it bodes well for the employees.

Dea

 

[CSAR GYRENE]

And due to the substandard work of some of their OSV's they've brought some of that work back in house.

Out sourcing can be a double edged sword...while it definately saves a huge amount in labor, particularly if its non-union, the quality can be second rate. I have left 3 different repair facilities because they have asked me to either do substandard work, or partake in questionable billing procedures. On the other hand, repair stations hold no monopoly in people willing to do half ass maintenence. I'm sure every one reading this can think of individuals they know who cut serious corners or performed substandard work, either due to pressure from higher up, from laziness, complacency, or from knowing that as a uniom member, they will be held unaccountable for thier actions. Even the most die hard unionist here must admit that that about 20 percent of thier members meet this description, just as about 20 percent of contractors are total flakes.
The key to returning outsourced work is to convince mgt. that we can do it better AND cheaper. To do this, we HAVE to be more efficient, to make up for the higher hourly cost in labor. In other words, if we get paid double what the vendors charge, than we must be able to do the check in half the time, without sacrificing quality. You cannot do this when you are only performing 4 hours of real "wrench time" for every 8 hours on the clock. 20 years experience aint worth a bucket of warm spit if your work ethics suck! All I ask of my crew is that they give me either 100 percent effort 80 percent of the time, or 80 percent effort 100 percent of the time.
Like all things in this industry, I believe this current trend in outsourcing is cyclical. In a few years, some bean counter is gonna wonder why we spend 30,000 dollars to ship a jt-9 to Isreal, when we can do the work for the same amount, with better oversight, right here in house...but then again, I'm just a dumb Jarhead with a high school education...what the hell do I know?

 

[local 12 proud]

I'm just a dumb Jarhead with a high school education...what the hell do I know?

... you took the words right outta my mouth 😛

 

[CSAR GYRENE]

... you took the words right outta my mouth 😛

Finally more lightheartedness!!! This world would be a pretty sad place if we couldnt laugh at ourselves!!!LOL
(just as afterthought, was there something SUBSTANTIVE you disagreed with me on, or were ya just funnin' me?

 

[robbedagain]

PTO: even in a merger, the old NWA stock is worthless. how many times does that have to told to you. sell whatever you got now because down the road you will regret it if you dont act now.
USAIR merged with HP and yet the new stock was issued, old stock not even worth the crap

 

[eolesen]

I have to wonder who would merge with NWA at this time? Old airplanes, a very disgruntled workforce and a on-going strike. Some great routes in Asia but very stiff competition from foreign carriers who can "do it better" than any US airline.

Well, for what it's worth, I said the same things about TWA and USAir... yet they managed to find dance partners.

Something else is afoot here and I doubt it bodes well for the employees.

Agree.

This is one case where I'd look for an asset sale rather than a full blown merger, and the only assets worth money to any of the US carriers are the Pacific routes. And even there, the routes could easily be sold without any aircraft or domestic employees attached to the sale.

 

[ThirdSeatHero]

This is one case where I'd look for an asset sale rather than a full blown merger, and the only assets worth money to any of the US carriers are the Pacific routes. And even there, the routes could easily be sold without any aircraft or domestic employees attached to the sale.

Thats just what signaled the start of Pan Am's demise, the sale of their Pacific routes to UAL.

(although UAL did get some planes/people too)