Holocaust Time Again

[delldude]

Now the lie is the truth.

Where do you fit in?




I'm sure it's all BS.

1939?

 

[andrew56]

There is genocide happening right now. Genocide happens all the time, just not always to the scale of the Holocaust... Genocide can happen anytime and anywhere that ignorance and discrimination become acceptable... What made the Holocaust worse is that Hitler had convinced people that "purification" would solve problems - he took advantage of the peoples' weak morale... But whenever discrimination becomes the norm and it goes unpunished, genocide can happen



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[delldude]

There is genocide happening right now. Genocide happens all the time, just not always to the scale of the Holocaust... Genocide can happen anytime and anywhere that ignorance and discrimination become acceptable... What made the Holocaust worse is that Hitler had convinced people that "purification" would solve problems - he took advantage of the peoples' weak morale... But whenever discrimination becomes the norm and it goes unpunished, genocide can happen



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The Holocaust started out much like this.

 

[tom barry]

Now the lie is the truth.

Where do you fit in?




I'm sure it's all BS.

1939?

Well dell, since you ask "where do I fit in" ?

FACT # 1,

European Christians illegally, and by force stole land from the Indians of the America's !
That fact can Never be disputed !

Fact # 2,

The Nation of Israel was created from land stolen from the Palestinians( with Britian's help)(hmmm, there's those European Christians at work again)
"That" fact can never be disputed.

Fact # 3,
I , in NO way support any group like Hamas !
"That" fact can never be disputed !

How do you like "those apples" dell ?

 

[southwind]

Well dell, since you ask "where do I fit in" ?

FACT # 1,

European Christians illegally, and by force stole land from the Indians of the America's !
That fact can Never be disputed !

Fact # 2,

The Nation of Israel was created from land stolen from the Palestinians( with Britian's help)(hmmm, there's those European Christians at work again)
"That" fact can never be disputed.

Fact # 3,
I , in NO way support any group like Hamas !
"That" fact can never be disputed !

How do you like "those apples" dell ?

I'd say , if your so unhappy about living on land that was taken from the native americans, which you seem to be, leave the country...........................please ! :blink:

 

[delldude]

Well dell, since you ask "where do I fit in" ?

FACT # 1,

European Christians illegally, and by force stole land from the Indians of the America's !
That fact can Never be disputed !

Fact # 2,

The Nation of Israel was created from land stolen from the Palestinians( with Britian's help)(hmmm, there's those European Christians at work again)
"That" fact can never be disputed.

Fact # 3,
I , in NO way support any group like Hamas !
"That" fact can never be disputed !

How do you like "those apples" dell ?

Fact 1

The Indians had all that land, and they had to act like a bunch of Chooches....but they got nice Casino's and tax free cigarettes out of the deal.

Fact 2

I found the deed to the Land of Israel......

Genesis 15:18In the same day the LORD made a covenant with Abram, saying, Unto thy seed have I given this land, from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates:

Genesis 17:8 And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an everlasting possession; and I will be their God.

(1000 BC not 1948 AD)

According to the Biblical Old Testament, King David of Israel first established it as the capital of the united Kingdom of Israel in c. 1000 BCE, and his son Solomon commissioned the building of the First Temple in the city.

Fact 3

You support Hezbollah then?


So tell me about these squatters you mention?

How's the applesauce Pal?

 

[eolesen]

Fact # 2,

The Nation of Israel was created from land stolen from the Palestinians( with Britian's help)(hmmm, there's those European Christians at work again)
"That" fact can never be disputed.

Considering Christianity pre-dates Islam by some 700 years, and Judaism predates Christianity by an unknown number of years, who exactly stole from whom?

 

[SparrowHawk]

Well dell, since you ask "where do I fit in" ?

FACT # 1,

European Christians illegally, and by force stole land from the Indians of the America's !
That fact can Never be disputed !

Oh yeah? Well fact is the white settlers won all of the wars over land owned by the Indians. Fact refuted. Since there was no International Law at the time the actions could not be illegal. Immoral? Perhaps but not illegal. Fact refuted!

Fact # 2,

The Nation of Israel was created from land stolen from the Palestinians( with Britian's help)(hmmm, there's those European Christians at work again)
"That" fact can never be disputed.

You're about to be 0 for 2! Yes, Britain drew the lines. Now ask yourself why and how that could be? Could it be that until relatively recently Palestinians didn't exist as a ethic group? There can be no argument that British Imperialism set the stage for many of the worlds problems. Think Northern Ireland for one. Don't you find it odd that before Israel was carved out of the desert, there is little mention of the "Palistinian People". in 1948 the "Palestinians" such as they were fought a war with Israel and got their assets handed to them. When you lose the war you lose your land pure and simple thems the breaks. No land was stolen, like Freedom and Liberty here, the state of Israel was won and preserved at the end of a gun barrel. Using your logic the founding fathers stole this country from England.

Fact # 3,
I , in NO way support any group like Hamas !
"That" fact can never be disputed !

How do you like "those apples" dell ?

One could and i would argue that by accusing Europeans of stealing land to create Israel you are providing tacit support of the Palestinians and by default Hamas and the rest. I wonder which Arab country is in for the next ass whipin' Israel is going to put on them? I love those savage Jews and the way they defend their homeland. I hope Iran F*cks with them and gets a taste of what that tiny well armed nation surrounded by hate can and will do to defend itself. Think Israel will nuke Tehran?

 

[Ms Tree]

I'd say , if your so unhappy about living on land that was taken from the native americans, which you seem to be, leave the country...........................please ! :blink:

What if it ends up that his ancestors were here first?

Fact 1

The Indians had all that land, and they had to act like a bunch of Chooches....but they got nice Casino's and tax free cigarettes out of the deal.

Well, it was their land to do with as they chose. I doubt you will find many natives who believe the end result was worth it.

Oh yeah? Well fact is the white settlers won all of the wars over land owned by the Indians. Fact refuted. Since there was no International Law at the time the actions could not be illegal. Immoral? Perhaps but not illegal. Fact refuted!

Putting aside the wars for a moment, there is the question of the treaties between the US and the various tribes and the fact that IIRC, every single one was was broken by the US.

 

[tom barry]

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[delldude]

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Uh oh.....popped a gasket........

 

[SparrowHawk]

As far as we know in the year 1492 the first "Holocaust" began against a race of people that were on this land for millenniums. The American Indian are still discriminated against in unbelievable ways. Treaties made in good faith, are not honored, and still being broken. Indian land and sacred ground, including burial grounds, are still being desecrated and taken away at the discretion of the American Government. The Yucca Mountains, are going to be a nuclear waste site dump, under Senate Joint Resolution 34. On July 9th, 2002 the Senate voted 60-39 to overturn Nevada's veto of the proposed high-level radioactive waste dump at Yucca Mountain, capitulating to the nuclear industry's well-financed lobby despite broad-based opposition from environmental and public interest organizations! The Yucca Mountains site lay on an earthquake fault. On June 15, 2002 there were earthquake tremors! The fact that this ground is considered sacred to the Shoshone and the Pauite never came under consideration. Yucca Mountain is located within the Western Shoshone Nation; the mountain and the surrounding area were NEVER deeded to the U.S. government. In fact, most of the area now used by the U.S. military for nuclear weapons testing and waste storage was explicitly recognized as Shoshone land. And who is the American Government....WE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE! The American Indian doesn't have the rights that any other minority race in this country is afforded. I hope this makes you stop and think!

 

[delldude]

As far as we know in the year 1492 the first "Holocaust" began against a race of people that were on this land for millenniums. The American Indian are still discriminated against in unbelievable ways. Treaties made in good faith, are not honored, and still being broken. Indian land and sacred ground, including burial grounds, are still being desecrated and taken away at the discretion of the American Government. The Yucca Mountains, are going to be a nuclear waste site dump, under Senate Joint Resolution 34. On July 9th, 2002 the Senate voted 60-39 to overturn Nevada's veto of the proposed high-level radioactive waste dump at Yucca Mountain, capitulating to the nuclear industry's well-financed lobby despite broad-based opposition from environmental and public interest organizations! The Yucca Mountains site lay on an earthquake fault. On June 15, 2002 there were earthquake tremors! The fact that this ground is considered sacred to the Shoshone and the Pauite never came under consideration. Yucca Mountain is located within the Western Shoshone Nation; the mountain and the surrounding area were NEVER deeded to the U.S. government. In fact, most of the area now used by the U.S. military for nuclear weapons testing and waste storage was explicitly recognized as Shoshone land. And who is the American Government....WE ARE SUPPOSE TO BE! The American Indian doesn't have the rights that any other minority race in this country is afforded. I hope this makes you stop and think!

You best rethink your holocaust reference....Tonto was quite adept at wiping out his own kind all across the fruited plains.

 

[Veritas]

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[SparrowHawk]

You best rethink your holocaust reference....Tonto was quite adept at wiping out his own kind all across the fruited plains.

Now that I'm living on those fruited plains I'm going to forgive you for your momentary lapse of common sense.