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Holocaust Time Again

The Holocaust started out much like this.

While the video is somewhat disturbing the Holocaust did not start out like this. Hitler and his brown shirts did not get thier start on university campuses. Overt discrimination against Jews was a matter of national policy in Nazi Germany before the first camps were even opened. They were stripped of their property, fired from their jobs and it was all perfectly leagal. None of which is going on here or up north in Canada.
 
While the video is somewhat disturbing the Holocaust did not start out like this. Hitler and his brown shirts did not get thier start on university campuses. Overt discrimination against Jews was a matter of national policy in Nazi Germany before the first camps were even opened. They were stripped of their property, fired from their jobs and it was all perfectly leagal. None of which is going on here or up north in Canada.

I believe it was in Die Bier stube BTW.
It all started by blaming societies ill's on the Jews just like is being done on campus' and OWS and Europe. Too many dismissed it as BS and it grew and grew and grew into what you mention. Hilter did not flip a switch.....they used spin tactics to blame the Jew.....and it worked quite well......what was that guys name from the Wilson administration Goebels liked so much?
 
The fact that there was massive inflation and the fact that the country felt eviscerated by the Treaty of Versailles may have contributed a bit.
 
The fact that there was massive inflation and the fact that the country felt eviscerated by the Treaty of Versailles may have contributed a bit.

You mean printing press money like now with Obama Lama Ding Dong and Ben "Quantitative Easing" Bernanke? Obama is setting the stage for the next Holocaust.
 
Uh oh.....popped a gasket........


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Naw, just ran out of time for a lenghty Reply(workie poo was calling).

Your First response about the Jews "RIGHT" to the land of Israel(by way of "I just found the deed" is ILLEGAL)
Why ? (Your NOT gonna' like this, because I KNOW you fairly well) Because ;

That History Book you quote from(some refer to it as a bible old/new), IS NOT the Supreme Authority on this huge Planet that we reside on ! Therefore The JEWS, British and Palestinians had/have no LEGAL right to the land.
(At least the Arabs who now are called Palestinians, Where living there)


Your blather about Indians/casino's/tax free cigarette's, well here's the TRUTH.

Even before the broken treaties(ALL were Broken), the European christians had NO LEGAL AUTHORITY to the land we call the America's ! dell, you don't believe in MANIFEST DESTINY, do you ? .......... or the DOCTRINE of DISCOVERY ?????????? (wait, lets "try this one on for size" dell), The NOT worth the Paper they were printed on............meaningless/worthless PAPAL BULLS, issued to the Spanish christians by some old pope, while sitting on his FAT ARSE on a THRONE, a zillion miles away in Rome Italy. You don't recognise them, do you dell ?????

Moving on; Casino's for every Indian Tribe ? If you dell, got " out more" from pennyslvainia area , you'd be aware that the Big 3 casino's in your (and mine, general NE area) were RARE to the vast Majority of tribes in this country.
1. Turning Stone in upstate NY (plus cigs)
2. Mohican Sun (the Mohegan's) in Connecticut (NO cigs.)
3. Foxwoods (Pequots) in Connecticut) No cigs.)

I've been to South Dakota. I've seen the Devistation there to the (Sioux) LAKOTA/DAKOTA/NAKOTA.

Ask the Navaho in NM/AZ. where thier BIG Casino is, they'd look at you like you were NUTS. THERE IS NONE.
or the Blackfeet in Montana, or the Shoshone in Idaho/Wyoming as Sparrow Hawk(who did a nice job pointed out in other posts within this topic) !

I could go on and on. The Bottom line, common thread that runs through this Israeli/America taking of land is Illegal Christian Interference, plain and simple !!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I could go on and on. The Bottom line, common thread that runs through this Israeli/America taking of land is Illegal Christian Interference, plain and simple !!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes you could. The treatment of the Indians in this country far surpasses the horror of the Holocaust 10 times over. Problem it was the US committing the atrocities AND it was way way out of the view of the news gatherings apparatus of the day. The Israeli's look like a boy scout troop compared to the actions of the US government.

 
Excellent "work" SparrowHawk,.... EXCELLENT WORK !
I especially like your point about "away from the media at that point in time" .
The VAST majority in this country to this day, have NO IDEA what went down badly to the Native population, NO IDEA WHATSOEVER !!

Folks like yourself in the Northern heartland have a much better Idea, because of your geographical location.

(Looking at the "calendar" today), I'm obviously asked, Hey - - - - , what are you doing for the (3) upcoming holidays ? NOTHING I reply. WHY(they ask) ? "Because all 3 are FRAUDULENT" in there presentation" I reply. (they look at me like I've got 3 heads) :blink:

(so called) Thanksgiving feast "WITH" the wampanoag Indians who saved thier ARSE's.
(so called ) Christmas. Jesus was born in the spring of late summer !!!!!!!!!!!!
(so called) "NEW YEAR" The true New Year is around the beginning of spring, when the earth is re-born anew, and(a lot of) the animals give birth to thier new born's.

(Although I've recently learned about gift-giving, and possible decoration of a tree during the Winter Solstice, so an Evergreen quite possibly may be going up in the living-room this year after a 7 year absence. 2004 being the year I SMARTENED UP/Rejected a lot of things) !

The REAL TRUTH/HISTORY is a powerful/amazing thing Sparrow. But I get a good feeling you already know that !
 
The REAL TRUTH/HISTORY is a powerful/amazing thing Sparrow. But I get a good feeling you already know that !

There are 2 problems with history.

1. We almost never learn the lessons that history teaches us. Like oh say being bogged down in Afghanistan. There is a reason that country has never been fully conquered. Ask the Russians.

2. History is written by the victors, which often creates a accuracy problem

Christian Holidays were created to coincide with the pagan rituals of the day as the newly formed religion was in a battle for market share as surely CNN battles Fox. Christmas coincides with Saturnalia for example and Thanksgiving mirrors the solstice and harvest celebrations. You could look it up.

I started research on the indians in 1972 as my Senior project and I was in a word, stunned at what I found out.

The US Army trading blankets from the Small Pox ward for land. Nearly wiped out the entire tribe and Hitler is the bad guy? If so what does that make us? Drive through the Pine Ridge Rez and see what 120+ years of "Help" from the Great White Father in Washington! Check out these sobering numbers.

Unemployment: According to the Navajo Nation Division of Economic Development, unemployment on the Navajo Reservation was 43.3% in 1998. As reported in the 1990 Census, unemployment on the Navajo Reservation was 27.9%; in Arizona, the rate was 7.1%, and in New Mexico it was 7.9%. In Gallup, the unemployment rate for Indians was 12.0%; for all Gallup residents, it was 5.8%.

The annual survey done by the Oglala Sioux Tribe and the BIA reported that unemployment on the Pine Ridge Reservation in 1998 was 73%; in 1995, the BIA reported Pine Ridge Reservation unemployment at 46%, while the 1990 Census reported a 28.9% rate. The unemployment rate for all South Dakota residents was 4.1%. In Rapid City, the unemployment rate was 21.7%; for all Rapid City residents, it was 5.2%. By comparison, the 1990 Census reported that the unemployment rate for all Americans was 6.2%.

Employment Information

Recent reports vary but many point out that the median income on the Pine Ridge Reservation is approximately $2,600 to $3,500 per year.

The unemployment rate on Pine Ridge is said to be approximately 83-85% and can be higher during the winter months when travel is difficult or often impossible.

According to 2006 resources, about 97% of the population lives below Federal poverty levels.

There is little industry, technology, or commercial infrastructure on the Reservation to provide employment.

Rapid City, South Dakota is the nearest town of size (population approximately 57,700) for those who can travel to find work. It is located 120 miles from the Reservation. The nearest large city to Pine Ridge is Denver, Colorado located some 350 miles away.


Life Expectancy and Health Conditions

Some figures state that the life expectancy on the Reservation is 48 years old for men and 52 for women. Other reports state that the average life expectancy on the Reservation is 45 years old. These statistics are far from the 77.5 years of age life expectancy average found in the United States as a whole. According to current USDA Rural Development documents, the Lakota have the lowest life expectancy of any group in America.


Teenage suicide rate on the Pine Ridge Reservation is 150% higher than the U.S. national average for this age group.

The infant mortality rate is the highest on this continent and is about 300% higher than the U.S. national average.

More than half the Reservation's adults battle addiction and disease. Alcoholism, diabetes, heart disease, cancer, and malnutrition are pervasive.

The rate of diabetes on the Reservation is reported to be 800% higher than the U.S. national average.

Recent reports indicate that almost 50% of the adults on the Reservation over the age of 40 have diabetes.

As a result of the high rate of diabetes on the Reservation, diabetic-related blindness, amputations, and kidney failure are common.

The tuberculosis rate on the Pine Ridge Reservation is approximately 800% higher than the U.S. national average.

Cervical cancer is 500% higher than the U.S. national average.

It is reported that at least 60% of the homes on the Pine Ridge Reservation are infested with Black Mold, Stachybotrys. This infestation causes an often-fatal condition with infants, children, elderly, those with damaged immune systems, and those with lung and pulmonary conditions at the highest risk. Exposure to this mold can cause hemorrhaging of the lungs and brain as well as cancer.

A Federal Commodity Food Program is active but supplies mostly inappropriate foods (high in carbohydrate and/or sugar) for the largely diabetic population of the Reservation.

A small non-profit Food Co-op is in operation on the Reservation but is available only for those with funds to participate.


Health Care

Many Reservation residents live without health care due to vast travel distances involved in accessing that care. Additional factors include under-funded, under-staffed medical facilities and outdated or non-existent medical equipment.

Preventive healthcare programs are rare.

In most of the treaties between the U.S. Government and Indian Nations, the U.S. government agreed to provide adequate medical care for Indians in return for vast quantities of land. The Indian Health Services (IHS) was set up to administer the health care for Indians under these treaties and receives an appropriation each year to fund Indian health care. Unfortunately, the appropriation is very small compared to the need and there is little hope for increased funding from Congress. The IHS is understaffed and ill-equipped and can’t possibly address the needs of Indian communities. Nowhere is this more apparent than on the Pine Ridge Reservation.


Education Issues


School drop-out rate is over 70%.

According to a Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) report, the Pine Ridge Reservation schools are in the bottom 10% of school funding by U.S. Department of Education and the Bureau of Indian Affairs.

Teacher turnover is 800% that of the U.S. national average


Housing Conditions and Homelessness

The small BIA/Tribal Housing Authority homes on the Pine Ridge Reservation are overcrowded and scarce, resulting in many homeless families who often use tents or cars for shelter. Many families live in old cabins or dilapidated mobile homes and trailers.

According to a 2003 report from South Dakota State University, the majority of the current Tribal Housing Authority homes were built from 1970-1979. The report brings to light that a great percentage of that original construction by the BIA (Bureau of Indian Affairs) was “shoddy and substandard.” The report also states that 26% of the housing units on the Reservation are mobile homes, often purchased or obtained (through donations) as used, low-value units with negative-value equity.

Even though there is a large homeless population on the Reservation, most families never turn away a relative no matter how distant the blood relation. Consequently, many homes often have large numbers of people living in them.

In a recent case study, the Tribal Council estimated a need for at least 4,000 new homes in order to combat the homeless situation.

There is an estimated average of 17 people living in each family home (a home which may only have two to three rooms). Some larger homes, built for 6 to 8 people, have up to 30 people living in them.

Over-all, 59% of the Reservation homes are substandard.

Over 33% of the Reservation homes lack basic water and sewage systems as well as electricity.

Many residents must carry (often contaminated) water from the local rivers daily for their personal needs.

Some Reservation families are forced to sleep on dirt floors.

Without basic insulation or central heating in their homes, many residents on the Pine Ridge Reservation use their ovens to heat their homes.

Many Reservation homes lack adequate insulation. Even more homes lack central heating.

Periodically, Reservation residents are found dead from hypothermia (freezing).

It is reported that at least 60% of the homes on the Pine Ridge Reservation need to be burned to the ground and replaced with new housing due to infestation of the potentially-fatal Black Mold, Stachybotrys. There is no insurance or government program to assist families in replacing their homes.

39% of the homes on the Pine Ridge Reservation have no electricity.

The most common form of heating fuel is propane. Wood-burning is the second most common form of heating a home although wood supplies are often expensive or difficult to obtain.

Many Reservation homes lack basic furniture and appliances such as beds, refrigerators, and stoves.

60% of Reservation families have no land-line telephone. The Tribe has recently issued basic cell phones to the residents. However, these cell phones (commonly called commodity phones) do not operate off the Reservation at all and are often inoperable in the rural areas on the Reservation or during storms or wind.

Computers and internet connections are very rare.

Federal and tribal heat assistance programs (such as LLEAP) are limited by their funding. In the winter of 2005-2006, the average one-time only payment to a family was said to be approximately $250-$300 to cover the entire winter. For many, that amount did not even fill their propane heating tanks one time.

These are not third world statistics. They are right here in the US about ten hours drive from my house. BTW, I got an A+ on the project. Ir was the beginning of my Libertarian views as I studied the devastation government can do to a culture and way of life in the name of progress.

I was in Utah in 1974 pretty close to the rez and I saw a sifn I'll NEVER forget, Ir was on the door to what we;d call a convenience store today and it said "No Dogs or Indians Allowed"

Of course the feds are busy wagging the dog in Iraq, Libya, Yemen and Afghanistan distracting us from the legacy they're responsible for. I can't help but wonder who the State Department will choose as our new Hitler Du Jour. I'll Handicap it at:

Iran - mahmoud ahmadinejad 3:1
North Korea - Kim Jong-il - 5:1
Syrian President - Bashar al-Assad - 7:1
Venezuela - Hugo Chavez - 40:1

I'm sure I forgot someone, but rest assured if the traditional Cabal of Crony Capitalist Crooks retain the White House, The Republicrats will continue to empire build at our grandchildren's children's expense.

If the white man wants to live in peace with the Indian, he can live in peace.....Treat all men alike. Give them all the same law. Give them all an even chance to live and grow. All men were made by the same Great Spirit Chief. They are all brothers. The Earth is the mother of all people, and all people should have equal rights upon it.......Let me be a free man, free to travel, free to stop, free to work, free to trade....where I choose my own teachers, free to follow the religion of my fathers, free to think and talk and act for myself, and I will obey every law, or submit to the penalty.
— Chief Joseph (1840 – 1904), Nez Pierce Chief
 
Naw, just ran out of time for a lenghty Reply(workie poo was calling).

Your First response about the Jews "RIGHT" to the land of Israel(by way of "I just found the deed" is ILLEGAL)
Why ? (Your NOT gonna' like this, because I KNOW you fairly well) Because ;

That History Book you quote from(some refer to it as a bible old/new), IS NOT the Supreme Authority on this huge Planet that we reside on ! Therefore The JEWS, British and Palestinians had/have no LEGAL right to the land.
(At least the Arabs who now are called Palestinians, Where living there)

Screw the Indians......file a grievance with Yahweh.....this thread is about Jews.
 
FY dude......thread about Jews.....start your own Indian thread.....I got no issue there.


WHOA...."down boy" !!!!!!!!!!!

dell, what part of my lengthy reply....that dealt with Britian or the JEWS not having LEGAL right to (today's) Israel did you misunderstand ? Simply quoting passages from the bible, Which is NOT the SUPREME LAW BOOK of the World doesn't cut it !!!!!!!!!!!!

OK, your turn !!


SparrowHawk, MORE good stuff in your last posts !!!!

Hinmahtooyahlatkekt/Thunder rolling down the mountain/Chief Joseph said many notable things. One of which I will take to my cremation;.............. "NO ONE Owns the land. There is More than enough land for the White Man and Indian to live on. (but) WHY did YOU have to TAKE IT ALL " !!!!!
(and to that I say..GOD DAM the United States Government FOREVER) !!
 
Excellent "work" SparrowHawk,.... EXCELLENT WORK !
I especially like your point about "away from the media at that point in time" .
The VAST majority in this country to this day, have NO IDEA what went down badly to the Native population, NO IDEA WHATSOEVER !!

Folks like yourself in the Northern heartland have a much better Idea, because of your geographical location.

(Looking at the "calendar" today), I'm obviously asked, Hey - - - - , what are you doing for the (3) upcoming holidays ? NOTHING I reply. WHY(they ask) ? "Because all 3 are FRAUDULENT" in there presentation" I reply. (they look at me like I've got 3 heads) :blink:

(so called) Thanksgiving feast "WITH" the wampanoag Indians who saved thier ARSE's.
(so called ) Christmas. Jesus was born in the spring of late summer !!!!!!!!!!!!
(so called) "NEW YEAR" The true New Year is around the beginning of spring, when the earth is re-born anew, and(a lot of) the animals give birth to thier new born's.

(Although I've recently learned about gift-giving, and possible decoration of a tree during the Winter Solstice, so an Evergreen quite possibly may be going up in the living-room this year after a 7 year absence. 2004 being the year I SMARTENED UP/Rejected a lot of things) !

The REAL TRUTH/HISTORY is a powerful/amazing thing Sparrow. But I get a good feeling you already know that !

The Cambodian killing fields atheists killed 1.7 to 2.5 million souls in 5 years.
So what is your point?
B) xUT
 
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