Hungary - new destination ?

[usfan]

Just saw in DOT dockets request from US AIRWAYS to start new services to Budapest Hungary ......
Hm-m expanding again ????

 

[flyingcat]

It is actually a renewal. Switzerland, Belgium, and Greece were approved a while before service was approved. It just makes it easier to add service if you want. Poland has been approved for a while but nothing has come out of it yet.

There are still more cities planned to be added besides Athens, Brussels, and Zurich. Unfortunately there are not until the summer 2008.

I am hopeful for Poland although if a merger were to go through this would strengthen the overall case for adding more cities, increase frequencies, or add service to other focus cities and hubs. Delta has served WAW in the past. Heck a new Delta could bring back BOS international flights. Just imagine the feed using both sides flights into BOS.

Its kind of sad that US carriers do not have many intl. flights out of BOS. 🙁

LH should be kissing US' feet for ending BOS-FRA so that that their second frequency would have less competition.

 

[FrugalFlyerv2.0]

Just saw in DOT dockets request from US AIRWAYS to start new services to Budapest Hungary ......
Hm-m expanding again ????

Interesting, but would Hungary not be better served via a *alliance code-share? Surely there has to be better markets in EU to serve than Hungary.

 

[flygirl74]

I am Hungrey. For a paycheck....my approval is TWO thumbs up.

 

[FlyUs]

It is actually a renewal. Switzerland, Belgium, and Greece were approved a while before service was approved. It just makes it easier to add service if you want. Poland has been approved for a while but nothing has come out of it yet.

There are still more cities planned to be added besides Athens, Brussels, and Zurich. Unfortunately there are not until the summer 2008.

I am hopeful for Poland although if a merger were to go through this would strengthen the overall case for adding more cities, increase frequencies, or add service to other focus cities and hubs. Delta has served WAW in the past. Heck a new Delta could bring back BOS international flights. Just imagine the feed using both sides flights into BOS.

Its kind of sad that US carriers do not have many intl. flights out of BOS. 🙁

LH should be kissing US' feet for ending BOS-FRA so that that their second frequency would have less competition.

Totally agree with you about Boston. If this merger goes through, Boston should become a secondary hub as opposed to a focus city. Of course the Sand Castle may decide to streamline the operation and cut point to point flights.. Florida, etc. Hope not..

 

[BoeingBoy]

Of course the Sand Castle may decide to streamline the operation and cut point to point flights.. Florida, etc. Hope not..

In the original merger proposal, that's exactly what they said they intend to do - reduce point-to-point flights.

Jim

 

[PA18]

Delta has served WAW in the past. Heck a new Delta could bring back BOS international flights. Just imagine the feed using both sides flights into BOS.

Its kind of sad that US carriers do not have many intl. flights out of BOS. 🙁

LH should be kissing US' feet for ending BOS-FRA so that that their second frequency would have less competition.

Unless you're referring to such major markets as BGR and HYA, there is no "feed" into BOS. The only cities served by mainline flights out of BOS are the hubs (CLT, PHL, PIT) and the Shuttle cities (LGA, DCA), with some minor service to the Caribbean, but only on weekends.

And even PHL, and especially PIT, are going more and more to RJ's.

Everything going south has to go through PHL. The spillover is then routed onto the Shuttle. So, during the Presidents Day vacation week, when the PHL flights are all oversold/cancelled/four hours late, etc., the $39 fare Griswolds headed for Walley World end up sitting next to the senator or businessperson who paid $800 for a Shuttle ticket.

In the meantime, JetBlue, Southwest, and Valujet are carrying boatloads of people to Florida non-stop (and getting them there the same day, with their bags).

Lufthansa was delighted when US Airways pulled down its BOS-FRA flight (which not only was full in the cabin every night, but regularly left cargo on the ramp after bulking out). The day after US stopped their flight, LH added a second one. For a while thereafter, they were operating both a 747 and an A340 daily on the route.

Of course, you'll never see any BOS-Florida flights now. The whole point these days is to show as little overlap as possible with Delta to try to fool the DOJ (while DL feversishly adds flights on US routes, like JFK-PHX, for the opposite reason).

Totally agree with you about Boston. If this merger goes through, Boston should become a secondary hub as opposed to a focus city. Of course the Sand Castle may decide to streamline the operation and cut point to point flights.. Florida, etc. Hope not..

As I said before, I wouldn't be surprised to see Tempe cut out all of Delta's point-to-point flying out of BOS. Even passengers flying from BOS to ATL will have to connect in PHL.

 

[flyingcat]

The only point to point that I have heard will be eliminated will be the RJ flights from MCO. Those are supposedly very unprofitable.

 

[FlyUs]

Unless you're referring to such major markets as BGR and HYA, there is no "feed" into BOS. The only cities served by mainline flights out of BOS are the hubs (CLT, PHL, PIT) and the Shuttle cities (LGA, DCA), with some minor service to the Caribbean, but only on weekends.

And even PHL, and especially PIT, are going more and more to RJ's.

Everything going south has to go through PHL. The spillover is then routed onto the Shuttle. So, during the Presidents Day vacation week, when the PHL flights are all oversold/cancelled/four hours late, etc., the $39 fare Griswolds headed for Walley World end up sitting next to the senator or businessperson who paid $800 for a Shuttle ticket.

In the meantime, JetBlue, Southwest, and Valujet are carrying boatloads of people to Florida non-stop (and getting them there the same day, with their bags).

Lufthansa was delighted when US Airways pulled down its BOS-FRA flight (which not only was full in the cabin every night, but regularly left cargo on the ramp after bulking out). The day after US stopped their flight, LH added a second one. For a while thereafter, they were operating both a 747 and an A340 daily on the route.

Of course, you'll never see any BOS-Florida flights now. The whole point these days is to show as little overlap as possible with Delta to try to fool the DOJ (while DL feversishly adds flights on US routes, like JFK-PHX, for the opposite reason).
As I said before, I wouldn't be surprised to see Tempe cut out all of Delta's point-to-point flying out of BOS. Even passengers flying from BOS to ATL will have to connect in PHL.

You're kidding, right? No non-stops to ATL? That will never happen... You also remember that we have flights to PHX and LAS. Also flights to SJU operate daily during the winter/spring. I bet the New Delta will also run flights to Florida. Maybe not as many but probably similar to operations at DCA.

 

[FCYTravis]

The "point-to-point flying" is all that RJ flying into Orlando and other Florida points. $59 Walley-World fares and 50-seat RJ economics are like oil and water. It was a desperate (and failing) attempt by DL management to find somewhere, anywhere to put their massive oversupply of 50-seat RJs.

 

[Boeing Boeing GONE]

Well in regards the transatlantic service at least the 757's are going to have Envoy next year.. Not sure what new services are year round. Envoy 757 seats coming from the A330

 

[BuffaloJoe]

Hungary seems like a good destination for a carrier from Hunger 😛 😀

I guess their first flight would be to TURKEY