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As bad as I personally feel the IAM is, I KNOW the ibt is 100% worse. In saying that, GO I.A.M.
As a UAL Mechanic, I agree 100%. Don't get roped into the ibt BS. I could tell you horror stories about my experience with the ibt. I recommend you visit CAL-UALMechanics.com and visit the forum for more info. GT
As bad as I personally feel the IAM is, I KNOW the ibt is 100% worse. In saying that, GO I.A.M.
Sorry, I'm no longer impressed by the IAM. They used to be pretty good. But they started the ball rolling in 2002 by convincing their members at USAIR to give concessions outside of bankruptcy, even accepted money from USAIR to conduct the campaign, only to just sit there as USAIR went BK anyways and took away more. They went from one of the highest to one of the lowest paid mechanics in the industry. They also scewed over the mechanics at UAL around the same time and lets not forget how they helped NWA screw over the Mechanics there, they put their injured ego above unionism.
With the recent TA at UPS, where the IBT got their mechanics over $50/hr and fully paid medical I think the UAL/CAL guys should be demanding that they deliver the same at UAL. If they start citing profits ask them if IBT reps get paid different scales depending on how much revenue the members they represent generate. Put their feet to the flame and demand answers as to why passenger carriers should get a discount on A&P labor. Ask them what type of arrangement they have as far as officers of the union flying on Airline passes. UAL may claim they need new aircraft, and expect the employees to pay for them but the average age at FedEx is 23 years and they make money and pay their workers. UALs fleet age is only about a year older than UPS and UAL has around 150 more aircraft.
Good luck!
******************************************************************************************************As a UAL Mechanic who has experienced the ibt I must say they are as bad as it gets. Below is an accounting of a recent union meeting out of LAX. Please don't make the same mistake many of us have made. Listen to those who have been and are there and most of all, "DON'T BELIEVE THE IBT SALES PITCH." They will say anything to make a sale.
Attended the monthly 986 meeting last night.
What a joke!
Just union paid thugs standing around staring at the 18 of us from UAL Laxmm.
The meeting lasted a whole 10 minutes.
Pledge to the flag.
They read last months minutes and approved them.
Then some phony trustee reported about spending money, which they approved.
Then, no old business and no new business.
Meeting adjourned ten minutes after it started.
Unbelievable!!!!
Our guys were shocked and left with their mouths open.
Some had not yet even arrived.
Took over an hour for most to get there
I'm sure they pull this crap every month and the mafia thugs just stood and stared at us.
I'm sure all but us are on the payroll.
Then we talked (vented) to our business agent and secretary treasurer for about forty five minutes.
No drinks, no food, no business agent reports, NOTHING!
Clacy Griswold was a no show!
I did give his brother, Chris the Secretary Treasurer a copy of the PEB ruling Yo give to Clacy.
What a waste of time!
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My Man Clacy G. Promises MUCH action but actually Does NOT MUCH. The United SAMC controllers applied for Union membership almost 10 years ago in 2001 thru 3 unions, IAM, AMFA and Now IBT. When the IBT wanted In they made all manner of "procliamations" about what they would and Could do. And because of what they said I voted for them in 2007-2008 . Well NOW when it comes time to Deliver?? Clacy is nowhere to be found. Told US it's because we weren't paying Dues. Well?? When they CAME to us wanting to represent US? they said We don't Need your Dues until we get you a contract. That lasted for 14 Months. Now all of a sudden they want to "Flip the SCRIPT" To tell us they're Not going to DO anythng UNTIL we pay dues. Where upon We replied When we SEE you DOING Something we'll reconsider paying Dues since we have your NAME on a document that said we Didn't need to pay dues Until we had a Contract. We hear ALL KINDS of stupid rumors WHY they weren't going to do anything but I belive after the LAST meeting we had with them it's because They couldn't Bully us! They Certainly can't Bully Me because I Had to remind them of what they Promised and told them flat UP! If you CAN'T do or your Unwilling to Do what you said you Could and Would do then just be MAN enough to say so and we'll no longer waste our Time waiting on you.
Well, Clacy hasn't done anything and Isn't even MAN ENOUGH to say so.. And if HE's the top airline man in the IBT?? Then the IBT is nothing more than a Trash Hauler's Union and Airline guys have no place IN it!! He did admit however that UPS Local 2727A Call ALL their OWN shots and is TOTALLY controlled IN HOUSE. (Autonomous) The National up to and INLUDING James Hoffa. The National dictates NOTHING to them. Now THAT's what We need at United! Either Man up or Shut up!