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Iran's peaceful intentions

The subject matter was/is 'Irans peaceful Intentions', The comparison as in (singular) was Illustrating how two religious fanatics think/thought they could hasten Armageddon and the 'End'!

BTW...Koresh was not a christian AT ALL, he may have proclaimed to be, but he also proclaimed he was 'The Lamb Of God' Jesus Christ himself.

Can't help it if you take it out of context and get all confused Snotty! 😛

Heres you a free history lesson... 😉
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Koresh

Local,

Good post :up:

Jim Jones was a nutcase and killed himself and his own flock.
It's the 'weak' in mind and “spiritâ€￾ that allow this, but that is who these nutcases hunt for.

Psychologists, psychopaths, child molesters and etc… use this or a similar methodology to weld power over their victims.

Keep The Faith!!! :up:

Take Care,
B) UT
 
The subject matter was/is 'Irans peaceful Intentions', The comparison as in (singular) was Illustrating how two religious fanatics think/thought they could hasten Armageddon and the 'End'!

BTW...Koresh was not a christian AT ALL, he may have proclaimed to be, but he also proclaimed he was 'The Lamb Of God' Jesus Christ himself.


Got to agree with you on this '12'. Koresh was obviously messed up and was not a "true" christian... even if he did proclaim himself as one.

I must ask though, why is it that everytime a self-proclaimed Christian commits a terrible act (i.e. koresh, clinic bomber) you brush them off as "FAKE" Christians? Now obviously, I AGREE with you that most of these self-proclaimed christians are not "TRUE" christains, but rather, they are CRAZY.

Yet, you do not extend an ounce of that courtesy to those of the Muslim faith. Rather, you assume that ALL MUSLIMS are out to get YOU! When a muslim committs a bad act, you automatically blame it on the ENTIRE muslim faith rather than the CRAZINESS of that self-proclaimed Muslim (a "FAKE" muslim).

It would not be prudent for Americans or the US to blame this on ALL those of muslim faith... rather WE MUST GO AFTER ONLY THOSE THOSE THAT ARE OUT TO GET US (regardless if they are muslim, christian, communist, or native americans).

In your view, ALL of muslim faith are out to get us... YOU ARE WRONG!
 
Got to agree with you on this '12'. Koresh was obviously messed up and was not a "true" christian... even if he did proclaim himself as one.

I must ask though, why is it that everytime a self-proclaimed Christian commits a terrible act (i.e. koresh, clinic bomber) you brush them off as "FAKE" Christians? Now obviously, I AGREE with you that most of these self-proclaimed christians are not "TRUE" christains, but rather, they are CRAZY.

Yet, you do not extend an ounce of that courtesy to those of the Muslim faith. Rather, you assume that ALL MUSLIMS are out to get YOU! When a muslim committs a bad act, you automatically blame it on the ENTIRE muslim faith rather than the CRAZINESS of that self-proclaimed Muslim (a "FAKE" muslim).

It would not be prudent for Americans or the US to blame this on ALL those of muslim faith... rather WE MUST GO AFTER ONLY THOSE THOSE THAT ARE OUT TO GET US (regardless if they are muslim, christian, communist, or native americans).

In your view, ALL of muslim faith are out to get us... YOU ARE WRONG!

Cuz Dumb,

Good start, bad finish.
Educate yourself before you run off.

Islam Watch

Also, get a Koran and read it!!!
Then there are the Hadith and Imam interptations.
Also add secular interpretations by the Moohlas.

Mohammed enters top boys' names (UK)

If you choose to 'digress' back to biblical times, then have at it!

Love,
Cuz Pain;
B) UT
 
Cuz Dumb,

Good start, bad finish.
Educate yourself before you run off.

Islam Watch

Also, get a Koran and read it!!!
Then there are the Hadith and Imam interptations.
Also add secular interpretations by the Moohlas.

Mohammed enters top boys' names (UK)

If you choose to 'digress' back to biblical times, then have at it!

Love,
Cuz Pain;
B) UT

Can't top that! :up:

BTW...Lily, Its the (Good) Muslims we better fear. 😉
 
So are you fellas saying that because ALL muslims are out to get you, we should declare war on ALL muslims?
 
So are you fellas saying that because ALL muslims are out to get you, we should declare war on ALL muslims?
That is pretty much it. Actually, even if they aren't Muslim, but are of middle eastern descent, it wouldn't be a bad idea to declare war on all of them...our friends in Saudi Arabia notwithstanding.
 
So are you fellas saying that because ALL muslims are out to get you, we should declare war on ALL muslims?



You are proposing a indefensible argument.

I think I have stated this before somewhere but, first lets get the white guy threat out of the way. Because when ever there is a terrorist argument the shining example that equates all terrorists is our own. Yes, we had Timothy Mc Vie(sp), but there is NOT a few thousand of him wanting to kill us. He was just one screw up.

Where as there are a few Million Muslims, with a certain percentage in that faith that want to kill us. That percentage needs to be rained in by their own. If they don't, how is the rest of the world going to decide who in that faith is going to act out in a way that is harmful to the rest of the Non-Muslim population of the world.

So NOT ALL Muslims are terrorists, BUT SOME Terrorists ARE Muslim, and should not be trusted. This is a legacy that the Muslim faith (no matter what country) is allowing to happen to it's own by being complacent.

Now who's fault is that?
 
You are proposing a indefensible argument.

I think I have stated this before somewhere but, first lets get the white guy threat out of the way. Because when ever there is a terrorist argument the shining example that equates all terrorists is our own. Yes, we had Timothy Mc Vie(sp), but there is NOT a few thousand of him wanting to kill us. He was just one screw up.

Where as there are a few Million Muslims, with a certain percentage in that faith that want to kill us. That percentage needs to be rained in by their own. If they don't, how is the rest of the world going to decide who in that faith is going to act out in a way that is harmful to the rest of the Non-Muslim population of the world.

So NOT ALL Muslims are terrorists, BUT SOME Terrorists ARE Muslim, and should not be trusted. This is a legacy that the Muslim faith (no matter what country) is allowing to happen to it's own by being complacent.

Now who's fault is that?

Bubble,

I am mostly in agreement with you. My question was mostly proposed to Local 12 (and in a lesser degree to UAL Tech)... 12 paints with a very broad brush.
 
So are you fellas saying that because ALL muslims are out to get you, we should declare war on ALL muslims?

Nah... They're all good and just want to share the gospel with the rest of the world using the dull edge of a knife... One Head At A Time! :up:
 
That is pretty much it. Actually, even if they aren't Muslim, but are of middle eastern descent, it wouldn't be a bad idea to declare war on all of them...our friends in Saudi Arabia notwithstanding.


By looking at 12's response... I am starting to think that you might actually be correct.

Heck, "12" might even be proposing that we build ghettos for all the muslims. Perhaps he will create new uniforms for them with a 'black rock' sewn onto the sleeve.
 
So are you fellas saying that because ALL muslims are out to get you, we should declare war on ALL muslims?

'NO ONE' is declaring war on Muslims.

Islam has declared war on 'ANYONE/EVERYONE' not Muslim.
The 'Jihad' is built into the core of the Islamic belief system and cannot be ignored. (Did you read the Koran?)

Did you miss this part? :stupid:

We can all quote misdeeds / misconceptions /political influence(s)/etc... from 'any' religion by it's fanatical factions.

The 'Jihad' is built into the core of the Islamic belief system and cannot be ignored.
Some factions chose to ignore it while others feed upon it.
The 'Islamic' theology would take us back to the 14th Century.

Are you comfortable with that?

My conception:
Jesus 'IS' the New Testament.
To be a Christian, the 'New Testament' is your base.
The rest of the Bible is a Historical reference that many Christians use to justify their actions but have little to do with the 'WORD OF JESUS' and being a Christian.

Am I perfect? Not hardly... 😛

Flame away... :up:

JMHO,
Cuz Pain;
B) UT
 
The 'Jihad' is built into the core of the Islamic belief system and cannot be ignored.
Some factions chose to ignore it while others feed upon it.

you contradict yourself. which is it? can it not be ignored? or can it? get your story straight before you sprout your mouth!

Jesus 'IS' the New Testament.
To be a Christian, the 'New Testament' is your base.
The rest of the Bible is a Historical reference that many Christians use to justify their actions but have little to do with the 'WORD OF JESUS' and being a Christian.

again. do your homework first. have you ever read the bible. without the old testament, jesus is nothing. jesus came to fullfill the law. that is the law that is written about in the old testament. without that law, jesus would not have been neccesary. he also fullfilled prophesies from the old testament prophesies that prove he was the messiah. guess you should ducttape that part of the bible back to your beloved new testament.
 
you contradict yourself. which is it? can it not be ignored? or can it? get your story straight before you sprout your mouth!
again. do your homework first. have you ever read the bible. without the old testament, jesus is nothing. jesus came to fullfill the law. that is the law that is written about in the old testament. without that law, jesus would not have been neccesary. he also fullfilled prophesies from the old testament prophesies that prove he was the messiah. guess you should ducttape that part of the bible back to your beloved new testament.

Smitty,

I apologize for not giving a number by number play sheet as most do not require it.

Also, I'm not going to give you my 'Teach Yourself' speech, but give you a chance to read what you posted.

I have stated my beliefs and before you lambaste me, you might want to do the same.

Yes, I have read the 'Bible' several times, You?
Yes, I have read the Koran, You?
No, I have not read all the Koran Hadiths, You?

Are you Jewish and my post Pi$$ed you off?
Other than an uncertain anger, what is your point?

B) UT
 
You are proposing a indefensible argument.

I think I have stated this before somewhere but, first lets get the white guy threat out of the way. Because when ever there is a terrorist argument the shining example that equates all terrorists is our own. Yes, we had Timothy Mc Vie(sp), but there is NOT a few thousand of him wanting to kill us. He was just one screw up.


i suppose these baptist christian terrorists dont count.

baptist terrorists

The backing of the Baptist church right from the beginning has enabled this organisation to spread its base. Due to its terrorist activities, the organisation was banned by the government in 1997 but it continued its operations from across the Bangladesh border.

The priests of the Baptist church supply arms and ammunitions to these terrorist rebels.

It is now apparent that the pattern of forced conversions at gunpoint are irrefutably linked to the Baptist Church in Tripura.

It won only a few thousand converts until 1980 when a mass scale ethnic riot was engineered by the Church in which systematic ethnic cleansing of Hindu and Buddhist tribals was initiated. Thousands of women were raped and kidnapped and forced to convert to Christianity. The terrorists receive military aid from extremist Christian groups in Australia and New Zealand. They also have ongoing exchanges with Islamic terrorist and ISI who push in arms from the Bangladeshi border.

In the year 2001, there were 826 terrorist attacks in Tripura in which 405 persons were killed and 481 cases of kidnapping by the rebels.


oh wait. thats right. these people are just the occasional screw up.
 
Smitty,

If you do not want to reply and state your position, I understand.

I think you are a coward, but I still understand.

Take Care,
B) UT
 
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