That's because they're paid double time for working on holidays..........hmmm let me see.......
Double time or Turkey dinner..........yeah I'll need to think that one out.
Its Official....UsAirways makes formal 8.6 billion proposal
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That's because they're paid double time for working on holidays..........hmmm let me see.......
Double time or Turkey dinner..........yeah I'll need to think that one out.
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OK, so what's the over/under on a merger anouncement before year end?
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an E-190 captain told me last nite before he took his plane to phl at 630 that the rumor is that there would be an announcement by christmas now i have heard that only once otherwise its been in early january
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Because everyone knows there's an Airbus captain out there that is the true keeper of inside knowlege, just ask him! :ninja:
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Maybe US has a better townhouse out there!
From little bits of info gathered here and there .... it sounds to me like LCC will be merged into the new American Airlines. LCC stock holders & AMR Bond holders will be issued "new stock" in the "new" American Airlines. If so, it will mark the end of LCC as a company?
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
nycbusdriver
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I agree. AA management will need to come up with a plan that incorporates LCC in the mix, or they will lose what little leverage they have with the bankruptcy process. It is fairly obvious that the vast majority of the unionized employees favor the merger, and the UCC seems to be onboard with the combination. The AA management can get on board, or get left in the dust.
There are likely several glitches in that scenario. The one that is most obvious and being discussed is the east pilots' scope language. If AMR controls the outcome, there will need to be some REALLY good,, IRONCLAD incentives for the east pilots to give up scope. I am just a bit hesitant to trust the current USAPA leadership to get this done. Personally, I think the east pilots should pool resources and hire an outside law firm/analyst/merger specialist to closely examine anything the BPR comes up with. The east pilots have been boonswaggled enough by both company and union shenanigans. Granted, the worst of it came at the hands of ALPA, but it seems that USAPA is all too often ALPA REDUX. I can almost feel the "Let My Daddy Vote" placards being pulled out of various basements in CLT.
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There are all kinds of unanswered questions regarding this possible merger. Not the least of which is the scope issue--for BOTH sets of pilots. (Let's hope the US West pilots don't have a scope clause or change of control clause. Can you just imagine someone trying to sort out 3 different scope clauses? Three different pay scales? Three different sets of duty rigs?)
Assuming that APA is the surviving union, be aware that it will be a real shock to most of you from LCC. We have not copaired crews for a long time. The company stopped that because without copairing they can legally work the flight attendants longer each day than if they are copaired with a cockpit crew that the FAA has a few things to say about the length of their duty day.j I don't think LCC flight attendants are going to be happy about that.
Some people forget that the FAA duty limits for flight attendants consists of we can not be on duty seven days in a row. Other than that, as long as we are upright and our eyes are open, we are legal. I think our "contract" limits us to 16 or 17 hours on duty. It just went up again in the latest f/a screwover.
Assuming that APA is the surviving union, be aware that it will be a real shock to most of you from LCC. We have not copaired crews for a long time. The company stopped that because without copairing they can legally work the flight attendants longer each day than if they are copaired with a cockpit crew that the FAA has a few things to say about the length of their duty day.j I don't think LCC flight attendants are going to be happy about that.
Some people forget that the FAA duty limits for flight attendants consists of we can not be on duty seven days in a row. Other than that, as long as we are upright and our eyes are open, we are legal. I think our "contract" limits us to 16 or 17 hours on duty. It just went up again in the latest f/a screwover.
The two contracts that the LCC FAs rejected actually had some pretty good duty day protections built in- the earlier your check-in, and the more takeoffs, the shorter the duty day. It is my understanding that the AA FA's do not have that type of protection in their recently ratified LBFO, is that correct?
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Once a combined contract is signed, whatever end up there would govern. But both the east and west contracts cannot summarily be ignored by AA because the language proscribes the acquiring company to honor it.
