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cltrat said:
Albert that line about Hi I'm from the Federal Government and I'm here to help comes to mind
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Well some on this thread and in other places have made it plain and clear that they don't care how long it takes as long as they don't run the risk of losing something in return. Essentially the line is we don't care at all about the other 70% of the total as long as IGM.

I'd like to hope if I was part of the benefitting 30% I'd be just a little more reasonable?
 
WeAAsles said:
Well some on this thread and in other places have made it plain and clear that they don't care how long it takes as long as they don't run the risk of losing something in return. Essentially the line is we don't care at all about the other 70% of the total as long as IGM.

I'd like to hope if I was part of the benefitting 30% I'd be just a little more reasonable?
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I could just imagine the crying ,holding ones breath till you're blue hissy fit if the shoe was on the other foot. You guys would look like the democrats on election night. I'll go as far as saying 75% of you would be walking around in pull-ups
 
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you don't hear me whining about how your CC's make .59 an hour more than I do even though that should have been pretty easy to change when this wage increase happen. It may not matter but I can tell you unless something else in the CBA changes my mind I will vote against anything that forces less insurance for more cost on me. esp for a company making billions and short changing us on profit sharing compared to UA and DL
 
cltrat said:
you don't hear me whining about how your CC's make .59 an hour more than I do even though that should have been pretty easy to change when this wage increase happen. It may not matter but I can tell you unless something else in the CBA changes my mind I will vote against anything that forces less insurance for more cost on me. esp for a company making billions and short changing us on profit sharing compared to UA and DL
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And ANOTHER reason why we need to get to a JCBA. At the end of the day being completely honest here it doesn't matter how either of us vote as long as the majority of the total members pass it.

This isn't supposed to be a battle between the two groups. This is supposed to be a joining in Unity.

And no vote will ever pass by 100% anyway.

But just so you know I highly doubt we will all go all the way down for your costs for medical. So you will have your voice counted I guess on that vote.
 
Albert said:
I could just imagine the crying ,holding ones breath till you're blue hissy fit if the shoe was on the other foot. You guys would look like the democrats on election night. I'll go as far as saying 75% of you would be walking around in pull-ups
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Irrelevant Al. This has to end at some point. And since the talk mostly concerns that medical item I personally would have girded myself for the worst case possibility out of the 50% worth of raises I've gotten over the last few years.

Roughly $10.00 per hour rise equals $1600.00 per month. Some of that rise your guys should have been socking away against the possibility of going with our Medical plans.

If many of your members decided to spend all of that raise on possibly some frivolous items, you're not going to get any sympathy from me.

And it's still my "guess" that you're not going to pay the cost we pay today but yes you're costs are going to rise and ours will come down a little? (Again just my guess)
 
NewHampshire Black Bears said:
Bob, '17' AA FSC stations ?

It's been a 'while' since i tried to do this, but please fill in the blank #'s if I can't get to 17. Thanx.

1. BOS
2. JFK
3. LGA
4. PHL
5. DCA
6. CLT
7. MCO
8. MIA
9. ORD
10.DFW
11. LAS
12. PHX
13. LAX
14. SFO
15. SEA

16. ?
17. ?
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I don't think CLT is TWU staffed. You are missing AUS SAT SJU and TPA I think. Not sure about SEA and PHL either.
 
CLT is not, and don't believe that it ever was TWU staffed. PHL was at one time, but was outsourced around the time of BK.
 
[TABLE="class: brtb_item_table"][TBODY]
[TR][TD][/TD][TD][/TD][TD]TWU[/TD][TD]IAM[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] ATL [/TD][TD] 146 [/TD][TD] 88 [/TD][TD] 58 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] AUS [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] BDL [/TD][TD] 59 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 59 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] BOS [/TD][TD] 367 [/TD][TD] 174 [/TD][TD] 193 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] BWI [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] CLT [/TD][TD] 1587 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 1587 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] DCA [/TD][TD] 501 [/TD][TD] 128 [/TD][TD] 373 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] DEN [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] DFW [/TD][TD] 3387 [/TD][TD] 3224 [/TD][TD] 163 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] EWR [/TD][TD] 86 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 86 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] FLL [/TD][TD] 110 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 110 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] JAX [/TD][TD] 61 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 61 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] JFK [/TD][TD] 787 [/TD][TD] 766 [/TD][TD] 21 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] LAS [/TD][TD] 216 [/TD][TD] 93 [/TD][TD] 123 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] LAX [/TD][TD] 959 [/TD][TD] 824 [/TD][TD] 135 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] LGA [/TD][TD] 390 [/TD][TD] 212 [/TD][TD] 178 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] MCI [/TD][TD] 40 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 40 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] MCO [/TD][TD] 212 [/TD][TD] 110 [/TD][TD] 102 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] MIA [/TD][TD] 2660 [/TD][TD] 2568 [/TD][TD] 92 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] MSP [/TD][TD] 81 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 81 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] ONT [/TD][TD] 21 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 21 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] ORD [/TD][TD] 1344 [/TD][TD] 1239 [/TD][TD] 105 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PBI [/TD][TD] 46 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 46 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PDX [/TD][TD] 50 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 50 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PHL [/TD][TD] 1626 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 1626 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PHX [/TD][TD] 1101 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 1101 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PIT [/TD][TD] 109 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 109 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PVD [/TD][TD] 39 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 39 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] RDU [/TD][TD] 67 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 67 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] RNO [/TD][TD] 20 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 20 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SAN [/TD][TD] 46 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 46 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SAT [/TD][TD] 65 [/TD][TD] 65 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SEA [/TD][TD] 97 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 97 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SFO [/TD][TD] 209 [/TD][TD] 141 [/TD][TD] 68 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SJC [/TD][TD] 26 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 26 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SJU [/TD][TD] 114 [/TD][TD] 114 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SLC [/TD][TD] 37 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 37 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SMF [/TD][TD] 29 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 29 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] STL [/TD][TD] 153 [/TD][TD] 153 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] TPA [/TD][TD] 133 [/TD][TD] 59 [/TD][TD] 74 [/TD][/TR]
[/TBODY][/TABLE]
 
bob@las-AA said:
[TABLE="class: brtb_item_table"][TBODY][TR][TD]TWU[/TD][TD]IAM[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] ATL [/TD][TD] 146 [/TD][TD] 88 [/TD][TD] 58 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] AUS [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] BDL [/TD][TD] 59 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 59 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] BOS [/TD][TD] 367 [/TD][TD] 174 [/TD][TD] 193 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] BWI [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] CLT [/TD][TD] 1587 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 1587 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] DCA [/TD][TD] 501 [/TD][TD] 128 [/TD][TD] 373 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] DEN [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] DFW [/TD][TD] 3387 [/TD][TD] 3224 [/TD][TD] 163 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] EWR [/TD][TD] 86 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 86 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] FLL [/TD][TD] 110 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 110 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] JAX [/TD][TD] 61 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 61 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] JFK [/TD][TD] 787 [/TD][TD] 766 [/TD][TD] 21 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] LAS [/TD][TD] 216 [/TD][TD] 93 [/TD][TD] 123 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] LAX [/TD][TD] 959 [/TD][TD] 824 [/TD][TD] 135 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] LGA [/TD][TD] 390 [/TD][TD] 212 [/TD][TD] 178 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] MCI [/TD][TD] 40 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 40 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] MCO [/TD][TD] 212 [/TD][TD] 110 [/TD][TD] 102 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] MIA [/TD][TD] 2660 [/TD][TD] 2568 [/TD][TD] 92 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] MSP [/TD][TD] 81 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 81 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] ONT [/TD][TD] 21 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 21 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] ORD [/TD][TD] 1344 [/TD][TD] 1239 [/TD][TD] 105 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PBI [/TD][TD] 46 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 46 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PDX [/TD][TD] 50 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 50 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PHL [/TD][TD] 1626 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 1626 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PHX [/TD][TD] 1101 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 1101 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PIT [/TD][TD] 109 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 109 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PVD [/TD][TD] 39 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 39 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] RDU [/TD][TD] 67 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 67 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] RNO [/TD][TD] 20 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 20 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SAN [/TD][TD] 46 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 46 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SAT [/TD][TD] 65 [/TD][TD] 65 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SEA [/TD][TD] 97 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 97 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SFO [/TD][TD] 209 [/TD][TD] 141 [/TD][TD] 68 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SJC [/TD][TD] 26 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 26 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SJU [/TD][TD] 114 [/TD][TD] 114 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SLC [/TD][TD] 37 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 37 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SMF [/TD][TD] 29 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 29 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] STL [/TD][TD] 153 [/TD][TD] 153 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] TPA [/TD][TD] 133 [/TD][TD] 59 [/TD][TD] 74 [/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
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Tremendous 'breakdown' Bob !!

Thanx !!!!!!!!
bob@las-AA said:
[TABLE="class: brtb_item_table"][TBODY][TR][TD]TWU[/TD][TD]IAM[/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] ATL [/TD][TD] 146 [/TD][TD] 88 [/TD][TD] 58 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] AUS [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] BDL [/TD][TD] 59 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 59 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] BOS [/TD][TD] 367 [/TD][TD] 174 [/TD][TD] 193 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] BWI [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] CLT [/TD][TD] 1587 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 1587 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] DCA [/TD][TD] 501 [/TD][TD] 128 [/TD][TD] 373 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] DEN [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 90 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] DFW [/TD][TD] 3387 [/TD][TD] 3224 [/TD][TD] 163 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] EWR [/TD][TD] 86 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 86 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] FLL [/TD][TD] 110 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 110 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] JAX [/TD][TD] 61 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 61 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] JFK [/TD][TD] 787 [/TD][TD] 766 [/TD][TD] 21 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] LAS [/TD][TD] 216 [/TD][TD] 93 [/TD][TD] 123 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] LAX [/TD][TD] 959 [/TD][TD] 824 [/TD][TD] 135 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] LGA [/TD][TD] 390 [/TD][TD] 212 [/TD][TD] 178 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] MCI [/TD][TD] 40 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 40 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] MCO [/TD][TD] 212 [/TD][TD] 110 [/TD][TD] 102 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] MIA [/TD][TD] 2660 [/TD][TD] 2568 [/TD][TD] 92 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] MSP [/TD][TD] 81 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 81 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] ONT [/TD][TD] 21 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 21 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] ORD [/TD][TD] 1344 [/TD][TD] 1239 [/TD][TD] 105 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PBI [/TD][TD] 46 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 46 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PDX [/TD][TD] 50 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 50 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PHL [/TD][TD] 1626 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 1626 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PHX [/TD][TD] 1101 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 1101 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PIT [/TD][TD] 109 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 109 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] PVD [/TD][TD] 39 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 39 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] RDU [/TD][TD] 67 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 67 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] RNO [/TD][TD] 20 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 20 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SAN [/TD][TD] 46 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 46 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SAT [/TD][TD] 65 [/TD][TD] 65 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SEA [/TD][TD] 97 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 97 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SFO [/TD][TD] 209 [/TD][TD] 141 [/TD][TD] 68 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SJC [/TD][TD] 26 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 26 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SJU [/TD][TD] 114 [/TD][TD] 114 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SLC [/TD][TD] 37 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 37 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] SMF [/TD][TD] 29 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][TD] 29 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] STL [/TD][TD] 153 [/TD][TD] 153 [/TD][TD] 0 [/TD][/TR]
[TR][TD] TPA [/TD][TD] 133 [/TD][TD] 59 [/TD][TD] 74 [/TD][/TR][/TBODY][/TABLE]
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One more question Bob, please.
Take a station like ONT, with a mere 21 IAM union people in it.
After the joint JCBA, what's the likely hood that ONT stays open as a Union station. Would I be wrong in thinking that, as a Giving of decent raises, AA would be looking for a few 'sacrificial lambs/stations' ??
 
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