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Worldport said:
We agree its taking to long you say it's the company fault I think its a combination of both. Its going to be hard for you that I say this, so a few stupid morons is ok. I think the Association and 2 unions separately have more fence mending than the company at least with me. They got off on the wrong foot  not letting us vote
They got off on the wrong foot....... Yes
It's a combination of both........ Of course.
They have more fences to mend....... No.
They should have let us vote for the Association....... Yes.

Edit: No one I've spoken to seems to be a moron. And I really do know lots of them to be able to judge. And I'm sure there's no morons on the company side either.
 
Worldport said:
The dude does actually have a day job bro. But just to interrupt. If people talk to him like crap on here you really expect him to be nice, kind and gentle?

I ain't gonna be nice that's for sure. LMAO.
 
WeAAsles said:
They got off on the wrong foot....... Yes
It's a combination of both........ Of course.
They have more fences to mend....... No.
They should have let us vote for the Association....... Yes
I understand your "no" you were in bankruptcy that can leave you bitter for years. How would you feel if the TWU organized the people who took over your cabin service?
 
Worldport said:
We agree its taking to long you say it's the company fault I think its a combination of both. Its going to be hard for you that I say this, so a few stupid morons is ok. I think the Association and 2 unions separately have more fence mending than the company at least with me. They got off on the wrong foot  not letting us vote
Agree, enough blame to go around. But as for today's update and Holidays to be specific. I do think we all know the company will go with the 10 holidays based on what other work groups negotiated. The key word "negotiated". I would imagine AA is asking for something in return and to our negotiating committee's credit, they are not budging. Again, if AA is using carrots for concessions, no go! I'm still of the belief that if the two unions would be more specific in their updates, you may get a few more team players. To date, this thing called the Association is it's own worst enemy and that plays right into AA's hands.
 
Worldport said:
I understand your "no" you were in bankruptcy that can leave you bitter for years. How would you feel if the TWU organized the people who took over your cabin service?
I've NEVER been bitter. Others yes. Me no. If they did I would be fine with it if I thought they would try to get it integrated back to us.

They make more money in dues from me then a $12 per hour guy. (2 times your wage monthly goes for dues)
 
WeAAsles said:
The dude does actually have a day job bro. But just to interrupt. If people talk to him like crap on here you really expect him to be nice, kind and gentle?

I ain't gonna be nice that's for sure. LMAO.
Ive never started a conversation calling him clueless. He usually butts in and corrects I don't mind the butting in nobody likes to be corrected all the time. You are very loyal Weez I think I'm in the majority with this one so much so your standing alone with him
 
AANOTOK said:
Agree, enough blame to go around. But as for today's update and Holidays to be specific. I do think we all know the company will go with the 10 holidays based on what other work groups negotiated. The key word "negotiated". I would imagine AA is asking for something in return and to our negotiating committee's credit, they are not budging. Again, if AA is using carrots for concessions, no go! I'm still of the belief that if the two unions would be more specific in their updates, you may get a few more team players. To date, this thing called the Association is it's own worst enemy and that plays right into AA's hands.
I think if CB or Rez stops by you should ask them why they don't give full details of what's going on?

I think it's a valid question to ask.
 
Worldport said:
Ive never started a conversation calling him clueless. He usually butts in and corrects I don't mind the butting in nobody likes to be corrected all the time. You are very loyal Weez I think I'm in the majority with this one so much so your standing alone with him
I've been the odd man out much of my life. But I stand by my convictions anyway. Rather be a leader than a follower personally. And a leader doesn't need a title or a vote (hint hint)
 
You stand with a common liar.

If I'm attacked I will attack back.

You run with lies so you deserve what you get.

And go find the last time I called someone clueless.

Unlike you who posts lies that Tim does and I have posted news articles that show the truth yet you still post lies.

So get a life.
 
WeAAsles said:
I've NEVER been bitter. Others yes. Me no. If they did I would be fine with it if I thought they would try to get it integrated back to us.

They make more money in dues from me then a $12 per hour guy. (2 times your wage monthly goes for dues)
Weez  we disagree nine times out of ten when a job gets outsourced its gone for good. When the union goes for those jobs  it infuriates me. Just like us with the AMTS we took over dispatch do you think those jobs would have been given over to another union so easily, its a total conflict of interest
 
Worldport said:
Weez  we disagree nine times out of ten when a job gets outsourced its gone for good. When the union goes for those jobs  it infuriates me. Just like us with the AMTS we took over dispatch do you think those jobs would have been given over to another union so easily, its a total conflict of interest
I've had this conversation a thousand times now and honestly it's way too complicated and emotional a conversation to start again.

You ever want to talk one on one about it, you have my number.
 
WeAAsles said:
I think if CB or Rez stops by you should ask them why they don't give full details of what's going on?

I think it's a valid question to ask.
It was once explained to me in negotiations everything can change so they can't say we got you this or that and then change it.Actually it was explained to me much better but I just can't get it out
 
700UW said:
You stand with a common liar.

If I'm attacked I will attack back.

You run with lies so you deserve what you get.

And go find the last time I called someone clueless.

Unlike you who posts lies that Tim does and I have posted news articles that show the truth yet you still post lies.

So get a life.
How about posting on topic...today was "update" day!
 
700UW said:
You stand with a common liar.

If I'm attacked I will attack back.

You run with lies so you deserve what you get.

And go find the last time I called someone clueless.

Unlike you who posts lies that Tim does and I have posted news articles that show the truth yet you still post lies.

So get a life.
Better check that life thing  we are on a AA forum I'm a AA employee you not. I can't bother but it wouldn't take to find you calling someone cluless
 
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