Joe the Plumber's "ASSISTANT" Confronted by UNION Workers

[nuclearfission]

Priceless!!

 

[novaqt]

And Obama has what experience?

Now that's what I call funny, but true.

In light of his taking his Townhall meetings to Europe, but he found out they didn't buy his Kool Aid.

Michelle was a bigger hit than he was.

 

[cltrat]

Now that's what I call funny, but true.

In light of his taking his Townhall meetings to Europe, but he found out they didn't buy his Kool Aid.

Michelle was a bigger hit than he was.

the Euros have been around long enough to know a socialist when they see one the Messiahs blind disciples have not figured that out

 

[tech2101]

the Euros have been around long enough to know a socialist when they see one the Messiahs blind disciples have not figured that out

i do not know what you are saying but i am glad you are saying it because it makes me a better person knowing that i am a blind messiah disciple socialist and the euros know that i am and all that because i know better because i have figured it out... :blink:

 

[FA Mikey]

. Typical blather. Are you seriously still on the same warpath of the Bush lied mantra?

Sir/ Maddam, you have not a clue.

Pot, meet Kettle

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BUSH LIE: "Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.�

State of the Union Address 1/28/2003

TRUTH Zero Chemical Weapons Found
Not a drop of any chemical weapons has been found anywhere in Iraq

BUSH LIE: U.S. intelligence indicates that Saddam Hussein had upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents.

State of the Union Address 1/28/2003

TRUTH: Zero Munitions Found Not a single chemical weapon�s munition has been found anywhere in Iraq

BUSH LIE: We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas."

State of the Union Address 1/28/2003

TRUTH: Zero Aerial Vehicles Found Not a single aerial vehicle capable of dispersing chemical or biological weapons, has been found anywhere in Iraq.

BUSH LIE: "Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications and statements by people now in custody reveal that
Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaida."

State of the Union Address 1/28/2003

TRUTH: Zero Al Qaeda Connection

To date, not a shred of evidence connecting Hussein with Al Qaida or any other known terrorist organizations have been revealed.
(besides certain Palestinian groups who represent no direct threat to the US)

BUSH LIE: "Our intelligence sources tell us that he (Saddam) has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."

State of the Union Address 1/28/2003

TRUTH: The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) as well as dozens of leading scientists declared said tubes unsuitable for nuclear weapons production -- months before the war.

BUSH LIE: "Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at [past nuclear] sites."

Bush speech to the nation 10/7/2002

TRUTH: Two months of inspections at these former Iraqi nuclear sites found zero evidence of prohibited nuclear activities there

IAEA report to UN Security Council 1/27/2003

BUSH LIE: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

State of the Union Address 1/28/2003

TRUTH: The documents implied were known at the time by Bush to be forged and not credible.

BUSH ADMINISTRATION LIE: "We know he's been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons, and we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."

VP Dick Cheney Meet the Press 3/16/2003

TRUTH: The IAEA had found no evidence or plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapons program in Iraq.

IAEA report to UN Security Council � 3/7/2003

BUSH LIE: We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in."

Bush Press Conference 7/14/2003

TRUTH: UN inspectors went into Iraq to search for possible weapons violations from December 2002 into March 2003

 

[Garfield1966]

. Typical blather. Are you seriously still on the same warpath of the Bush lied mantra? Dude(or woman) what planet are you from, really? Did you not pay attention at the time when YOUR UN,(Remember UN inspectors) YOUR Oh so friendly, "pals" of Europe, and EVERYONE, including the much heralded former Clinton Admin, READ; HIS State Dept, CIA,JCS,NSA military Intell. All.....Every one....Said the same thing President Bush said. Oh, wait a minute......news flash, the Prez doesn't give his thoughts in an open speech until he gets info from all his intell agencies, (former and current employees I may add, some Department levels are "career", not appointed) Iraq was a threat. That was the Intell availiable at the time, and BEFORE MR Bush. Were things handled incorrectly after we got there?......You bet. That is another thread. But, if you still believe the "Bush lied" garbage, Sir/ Maddam, you have not a clue.

Cheney and Bush cherry picked the intel that they wanted to support their goal of invading Iraq. The intel that all the others read was in the intel that Cheney and Bush shared with them. The UN inspectors did not find anything because Sadam stone walled them. There was no proof found before the invasion to support the intel that Cheney and Bush had and there was nothing found after the invasion to support the lies that Cheney and Bush told the public.

They fact that others 'thought' Sadam had WMD is quite different from committing troops for an invasion.

Nearly every politician lies. The fact that Cheney and Bush lied is not unique or surprising. What is surprising is how few are willing to come out and tell the king he is wearing no clothes.

While not proof of anything, I do find it odd that the Colin Powell stepped down as Sec of State and voted for Obama. Personally, I find that quite telling in and of it's self.

 

[nuclearfission]

Pot, meet Kettle

BUSH LIE: "Our intelligence officials estimate that Saddam Hussein had the materials to produce as much as 500 tons of sarin, mustard and VX nerve agent.�

State of the Union Address 1/28/2003

TRUTH Zero Chemical Weapons Found
Not a drop of any chemical weapons has been found anywhere in Iraq

BUSH LIE: U.S. intelligence indicates that Saddam Hussein had upwards of 30,000 munitions capable of delivering chemical agents.

State of the Union Address 1/28/2003

TRUTH: Zero Munitions Found Not a single chemical weapon�s munition has been found anywhere in Iraq

BUSH LIE: We have also discovered through intelligence that Iraq has a growing fleet of manned and unmanned aerial vehicles that could be used to disperse chemical or biological weapons across broad areas."

State of the Union Address 1/28/2003

TRUTH: Zero Aerial Vehicles Found Not a single aerial vehicle capable of dispersing chemical or biological weapons, has been found anywhere in Iraq.

BUSH LIE: "Evidence from intelligence sources, secret communications and statements by people now in custody reveal that
Saddam Hussein aids and protects terrorists, including members of Al Qaida."

State of the Union Address 1/28/2003

TRUTH: Zero Al Qaeda Connection

To date, not a shred of evidence connecting Hussein with Al Qaida or any other known terrorist organizations have been revealed.
(besides certain Palestinian groups who represent no direct threat to the US)

BUSH LIE: "Our intelligence sources tell us that he (Saddam) has attempted to purchase high-strength aluminum tubes suitable for nuclear weapons production."

State of the Union Address 1/28/2003

TRUTH: The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) as well as dozens of leading scientists declared said tubes unsuitable for nuclear weapons production -- months before the war.

BUSH LIE: "Satellite photographs reveal that Iraq is rebuilding facilities at [past nuclear] sites."

Bush speech to the nation 10/7/2002

TRUTH: Two months of inspections at these former Iraqi nuclear sites found zero evidence of prohibited nuclear activities there

IAEA report to UN Security Council 1/27/2003

BUSH LIE: "The British government has learned that Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa."

State of the Union Address 1/28/2003

TRUTH: The documents implied were known at the time by Bush to be forged and not credible.

BUSH ADMINISTRATION LIE: "We know he's been absolutely devoted to trying to acquire nuclear weapons, and we believe he has, in fact, reconstituted nuclear weapons."

VP Dick Cheney Meet the Press 3/16/2003

TRUTH: The IAEA had found no evidence or plausible indication of the revival of a nuclear weapons program in Iraq.

IAEA report to UN Security Council � 3/7/2003

BUSH LIE: We gave him a chance to allow the inspectors in, and he wouldn't let them in."

Bush Press Conference 7/14/2003

TRUTH: UN inspectors went into Iraq to search for possible weapons violations from December 2002 into March 2003

Very good work Micky.......Dates, times, speeches......all good. Many of the "bullet" points you are showing are correct. You do know what a "bullet" point is I assume? But, once again, your missing the point, my friend. These were all obtained through Intell not only by the dreaded W Admin, but............ready?????.....prior to W taking office 😱 .........I did not mention a name, so, do not "accuse" me of anything.

Dude....You are showing that you are new to this as i can tell you......2003, most of the Intell gathered at the time was from W's and the previous Administration. All agencies involved. I mentioned in a previous thread that some of these positions are "career", and not appointed. I write this as a reminder to some, I know not you, who understand where I am going. I do not claim to know the "inner workings" of Government. But, I may have more of an "inside knowledge" than most.

Take it for what it's worth, but, you really need to do juuuussttt do a little more homework!

 

[nuclearfission]

Cheney and Bush cherry picked the intel that they wanted to support their goal of invading Iraq. The intel that all the others read was in the intel that Cheney and Bush shared with them. The UN inspectors did not find anything because Sadam stone walled them. There was no proof found before the invasion to support the intel that Cheney and Bush had and there was nothing found after the invasion to support the lies that Cheney and Bush told the public.

They fact that others 'thought' Sadam had WMD is quite different from committing troops for an invasion.

Nearly every politician lies. The fact that Cheney and Bush lied is not unique or surprising. What is surprising is how few are willing to come out and tell the king he is wearing no clothes.

While not proof of anything, I do find it odd that the Colin Powell stepped down as Sec of State and voted for Obama. Personally, I find that quite telling in and of it's self.

First and foremost, Colin Powell stepped down, and voted for Obama because he was the first black man to run for the office,(besides himself) and have a serious chance at winning(which he did convincingly), and, because he knew he had no chance in the Repub party as a serious candidate.......TO BE THE FIRST< BLACK< GENERAL< TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE USA.

#2 every politician lies....Blah....blah.....blah....

Bush and Cheney "cherry picked" intell.......Yea, Gar...OutField, they cherry picked intel to suit their desire to send marines and Army personell to the desert......ummmm.....to die........and....um....put us in financial straights 6 years from the time they were thinking of just fattening their pockets with cash....you know.....all that oil money....Halliburton....all that stuff....right??.....OK, I think I got it all <_< <_<

 

[freedom]

First and foremost, Colin Powell stepped down, and voted for Obama because he was the first black man to run for the office,(besides himself) and have a serious chance at winning(which he did convincingly), and, because he knew he had no chance in the Repub party as a serious candidate.......TO BE THE FIRST< BLACK< GENERAL< TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE USA.

{so on and so forth )

you don't like facts do you ?

my , what a simplistic argument .... it's so one sided that it cannot be refuted because your not basing your argument off of logic .

 

[FA Mikey]

Very good work Micky.......Dates, times, speeches......all good. Many of the "bullet" points you are showing are correct.

They are all correct and all of them correspond to the BUSH lies at the time. There was no smoking gun, in fact there was no gun. Bush has also admitted there was NO connection between Iraq and the terrorist attacks.

Dude....You are showing that you are new to this as i can tell you......2003, most of the Intell gathered at the time was from W's and the previous Administration.

I think we all understand it was not coming from the future.

All agencies involved. I mentioned in a previous thread that some of these positions are "career", and not appointed.

So since someone wasnt appointed, like Brownie to FEMA they are no up to the task?

Take it for what it's worth, but, you really need to do juuuussttt do a little more homework!

Why is that? Because all the info was factual and debunked the bull you are spewing about terror,Iraq, 911 and GW's lies to the American people.

 

[Garfield1966]

First and foremost, Colin Powell stepped down, and voted for Obama because he was the first black man to run for the office,(besides himself) and have a serious chance at winning(which he did convincingly), and, because he knew he had no chance in the Repub party as a serious candidate.......TO BE THE FIRST< BLACK< GENERAL< TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE USA.

That is incredibly insulting to the intelligence and integrity of Powell. I suspect were you to tell him that face to face, you might learn a thing or two.

#2 every politician lies....Blah....blah.....blah....

Bush and Cheney "cherry picked" intell.......Yea, Gar...OutField, they cherry picked intel to suit their desire to send marines and Army personell to the desert......ummmm.....to die........and....um....put us in financial straights 6 years from the time they were thinking of just fattening their pockets with cash....you know.....all that oil money....Halliburton....all that stuff....right??.....OK, I think I got it all <_< <_<

Yep, that about sums it up.

 

[nuclearfission]

That is incredibly insulting to the intelligence and integrity of Powell. I suspect were you to tell him that face to face, you might learn a thing or two.
Yep, that about sums it up.

You may laugh now.......I have met Colin Powell.....Nuff said

Your a blind bat, and that sums it up outfield

 

[FA Mikey]

First and foremost, Colin Powell stepped down, and voted for Obama because he was the first black man to run for the office,(besides himself) and have a serious chance at winning(which he did convincingly), and, because he knew he had no chance in the Repub party as a serious candidate.......TO BE THE FIRST< BLACK< GENERAL< TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE USA.

Thats the reasons not when he said, he had watched both Obama and his Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, for many months and thought “either one of them would be a good president.†But he said McCain’s choices in the last few weeks — especially his selection of Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska as his vice presidential running mate, had raised questions in his mind about McCain’s judgment.

“I don’t believe Gov. Palin is ready to be president of the United States,†Powell said flatly. By contrast, Obama’s running mate, Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, “is ready to be president on day one.â€

How about when he said; a major part of his decision to turn his back on his own party was his conclusion that Obama was the better option to repair frayed U.S. relations with allies overseas.

“This is the time for outreach,†Powell said, saying the next president would have to “reach out and show the world there is a new administration that is willing to reach out.â€

In particular, he said, he welcomed Obama’s president to “talk to people we haven’t talked to,†a reference to Obama’s controversial statement that he would be open to direct diplomacy with Iranian leaders.


Maybe when he said; McCain would be a good president, but Obama is “a transformational figure†who would be an “exceptional†leader.

“I truly believe that at this point in America’s history we need a president who will not just continue ... basically the policies we have followed in recent yearsâ€. “We need a president with transformational qualities.â€

#2 every politician lies....Blah....blah.....blah....

Bush and Cheney "cherry picked" intell.......Yea, Gar...OutField, they cherry picked intel to suit their desire to send marines and Army personell to the desert......ummmm.....to die........and....um....put us in financial straights 6 years from the time they were thinking of just fattening their pockets with cash....you know.....all that oil money....Halliburton....all that stuff....right??.....OK, I think I got it all <_< <_<

If not see the BUSH LIES I posted earlier. He really didnt cherry pick He flat out lied! and he sent A trillion dollars down a hole and some of our best and brightest off to die, for a LIE.

 

[FA Mikey]

....I have met Colin Powell.....Nuff said

Ok a Dollar to anyone who can tell us all how that statement has ANY weight or bearing on the thread. It could only be stranger if it had started with "One time at band camp".

 

[nuclearfission]

Thats the reasons not when he said, he had watched both Obama and his Republican opponent, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, for many months and thought “either one of them would be a good president.†But he said McCain’s choices in the last few weeks — especially his selection of Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska as his vice presidential running mate, had raised questions in his mind about McCain’s judgment.

“I don’t believe Gov. Palin is ready to be president of the United States,†Powell said flatly. By contrast, Obama’s running mate, Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, “is ready to be president on day one.â€

How about when he said; a major part of his decision to turn his back on his own party was his conclusion that Obama was the better option to repair frayed U.S. relations with allies overseas.

“This is the time for outreach,†Powell said, saying the next president would have to “reach out and show the world there is a new administration that is willing to reach out.â€

In particular, he said, he welcomed Obama’s president to “talk to people we haven’t talked to,†a reference to Obama’s controversial statement that he would be open to direct diplomacy with Iranian leaders.


Maybe when he said; McCain would be a good president, but Obama is “a transformational figure†who would be an “exceptional†leader.

“I truly believe that at this point in America’s history we need a president who will not just continue ... basically the policies we have followed in recent yearsâ€. “We need a president with transformational qualities.â€

If not see the BUSH LIES I posted earlier. He really didnt cherry pick He flat out lied! and he sent A trillion dollars down a hole and some of our best and brightest off to die, for a LIE.

OK, Micky........your right.....I was wrong....calm down, and go get some sleepy now...

You did not comprehend one thing I have said.......I will not change your mind, nor was I trying to. But, you obviously do not even try to "debate".....You just want to "disagree", and thats cool.