Jumpseat Policy
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flyboeing737
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I believe it is only pilots and dispatchers for the jump seat.
TSA killed that.
Thats BS bro... SWA AMT's have never lost it even after the so called sterile cp in 2001.
But AA will make an exception if your on a field trip to fix one of their jets..
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IIRC, the EOW standard is to assume one cabin and one cockpit jumpseat being occupied.
My friend works for Alaska airlines and the AMT's have cockpit seat privileges. Its in their company policy. So that TSA line is crap. Pilots in general do not want AMT's in the cockpit. Other airline pilots are welcome for commuting. If a AMT was allowed then he would bump other airline pilots from commuting home or to work. The Pilots want the same favors in return so that keeps us out. I found this out after the 2003 concessions when I was asked to look into getting the cockpit seat privileges back.
We were told its the FAA, TSA, 911 security reasons and so on. It was the flight department that wanted us out of the flight deck. I say flight department in general.
There is a list of eligible persons that can ride FDJ seat but I can not access from my home computer in the Flight Manual under section 15. If memory serves me right a board member can ride FDJ if need be. Don't know why they would they can bump revenue in F/C.
We were told its the FAA, TSA, 911 security reasons and so on. It was the flight department that wanted us out of the flight deck. I say flight department in general.
There is a list of eligible persons that can ride FDJ seat but I can not access from my home computer in the Flight Manual under section 15. If memory serves me right a board member can ride FDJ if need be. Don't know why they would they can bump revenue in F/C.
I did, I personally discussed the procedure to change the jump seat policy with Phat Don... It was never on his agenda.. Mainly because a change in policy doesn't equate to producing revenue for the TWU..
Anyway... In fact, It's actually a APA policy.. Not TSA, Not TWU, Not AA..
The new bread of computer program flying pilots do not want maintenance in the cockpit..
Unless of course, it's to repair an aircraft in an out station with stranded flight crews and passengers..
Imagine That..
I'll take the aviators from the 72 and DC10 days back anytime..
Why shouldn't a guy with more knowledge on the systems of that aircraft be denied the seat when some 2 year degreed dispatcher or marketing flunky gets in..
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Not at USAIRWAYS
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Is it better if everyone or just the senior pilot can plan their commute to work?
Dispatchers are required to ride in the cockpit on observation in accordance with the FAR's once a year. The courtesy has been extended to those airmen in addition to that. It's great you know about systems, but if a fuel pump or hydraulic pump failed in flight while you were in the cockpit, what will you do?
A dispatcher has a different knowledge base then you do. Different job, different authority, different responsibility, but all important just as all your skill, authority and responsibilities are.
AA doesn't plan that in the EOW.
[font=Helvetica"]They don’t have to get a two year degree, They have to go to a tech school for 200 Hours only.[/font]
http://www.airlinedi...archive/faq.htm
I’ll tell you, you keep quiet and let the flight crew follow their alternate procedures manual, you or me have no authority in the air, only the flight crew.
That’s the point, been in the cockpit on a real flight and seeing all the systems working together will help us troubleshooting. I for one have always turn down the jump seats when offered for test a flight, due to this one sided policy.
