ContUNITEus
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LCC fleet question: 319's
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ContUNITEus
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I had wondered about that. So you are saying that some of the IAE 321s really went east? I kinda remember something about that like a year ago and thinking about how that whole strategy muddies the water.
Gimme an example of one that is operating east.
Actually we have been flying them for around 2 years. I think it's 536 and above.
We received a few advanced A/C with CFM engines and then all further orders were for IAE.
Real tired
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-- A/C 555
-- 321
-- IAE's
-- East
In PIT now for pre-ops mod's, and Wi-Fi install.
You know PIT? The station everyone wants to "just let die". But the station the company sends any work they want to get done correctly to.
US is one airline. East-West only applies to work groups at this point. US has chosen to standardize on the IAE engines for the Airbus fleet going forward, regardless of which work group operates the aircraft.
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Not 100% ... According to the F/A Transition Agreement, the company cannot use an east crew to staff a pre-TA-signing west aircraft (basically all ending with AW) and vice-versa... To the best of my knowledge, the company permanently assigned aircraft that arrived after the TA pretty much based on engine type to either west or east ops, so most A321s after the merger went to the AWA side, while the three or four CFM ones that were still scheduled for delivery went to the east. Surely, as US decided to continue airbus deliveries with IAE engines only, they had to also assign some of those to the east.
Technically though, like you just mentioned, after glancing through the TA (transition agreement) the company can deploy any 'post-TA-signing' aircraft that was not originally on the list to any operation it wants on the whim and based on that day's needs....
If -say- an east crew was about to travel on N117US out of PHX and that aircraft broke down over there prior to departure, then the company could just quickly switch that crew over to N507AY, if it happened to be sitting in PHX as well. On the other hand, if an A321 such as N507AY carrying a west crew broke down in CLT, then they couldn't just put that west crew on N177US, because it is on the pre-merger list.
But then again, the company managers do whatever they want, and have the union just "grieve it later."
Technically though, like you just mentioned, after glancing through the TA (transition agreement) the company can deploy any 'post-TA-signing' aircraft that was not originally on the list to any operation it wants on the whim and based on that day's needs....
If -say- an east crew was about to travel on N117US out of PHX and that aircraft broke down over there prior to departure, then the company could just quickly switch that crew over to N507AY, if it happened to be sitting in PHX as well. On the other hand, if an A321 such as N507AY carrying a west crew broke down in CLT, then they couldn't just put that west crew on N177US, because it is on the pre-merger list.
But then again, the company managers do whatever they want, and have the union just "grieve it later."
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Of course another way to tell which planes are East or West crews is by the flight number. Anything above 699 is East and anything below is West.
Thank you. If the flight number is 1-699, will it be West equipment? Never flown the West 319/320 to my knowledge are they any different than East 319s that are on the Shuttle, PHL/CLT flights?
Josh
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josh flight number below 699 are west for example flight 81 phx bwi is america west 319 or 320 and the outbound is say 85 or say 457 the engines are iae type i do know we have a few 321s with the iae engines 536 is one i believe as is 547 anthr way to tell the west josh is that they have aw behind the tail numbers whereas the east has uw or us i may be missing some but i think its as close as itll get but i hope it helps
