Left vs Right - The Continuing Crisis
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Utter claptrap
One could switch every example and they would be equally untrue
All the things mentioned are individual traits, characteristics and behaviors.
Only a myopic uneducated fool or slave to the profit-driven yellow journalism of the right wing media would attribute any of it to one's political leanings.
Even the size of government argument. Regardless of what they say, those in the right do nothing to reduce or even constrain the size or reach of government,,and haven't since Lincoln. The only difference is who they are beholden to, and what parts of the government they grow, and how they choose to not pay for it.
One could switch every example and they would be equally untrue
All the things mentioned are individual traits, characteristics and behaviors.
Only a myopic uneducated fool or slave to the profit-driven yellow journalism of the right wing media would attribute any of it to one's political leanings.
Even the size of government argument. Regardless of what they say, those in the right do nothing to reduce or even constrain the size or reach of government,,and haven't since Lincoln. The only difference is who they are beholden to, and what parts of the government they grow, and how they choose to not pay for it.
I presume you personally know a fair number of people
Probably of a range of political beliefs and leanings
Are you going to maintain that the stereotypes and behaviors you post as some sort of Great Truth or Poignant Witty Point have any validity, based on the behavior of a cross-section of your family friends and acquaintances!
Simple observation gives lie to the "programming" you succombed to, and then spread.
Probably of a range of political beliefs and leanings
Are you going to maintain that the stereotypes and behaviors you post as some sort of Great Truth or Poignant Witty Point have any validity, based on the behavior of a cross-section of your family friends and acquaintances!
Simple observation gives lie to the "programming" you succombed to, and then spread.
delldude said:Didn't you previously claim to not be liberal or conservative?
My man in a full blown identity crisis?
Truth hurt?
That is exactly why I say that the behaviors you cite are individual, not (necessarily...) linked to political ideology.
No identity crisis, just no need to "identify" with any particular group.
Narrow minds have a difficult time understanding that.
Thanks again for the illustration.
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Not at all
My views are conservative and libertarian in some areas,a nd very liberal in others
Very generally, socially liberal, and libertarian to conservative in governance, with a huge dose of pragmatism and practicality.
My voting record is nearly entirely Republican. Primarily because like so many others, I sooo _wanted_ to believe their promises of fiscal responsibility and small uninteusive government. I wanted to believe that if they delivered in those areas then that maybe the influence of the religious right would not be too harmful to the peoples' rights and freedoms.
I was wrong, and they didn't just fail - they flat lied. They have no intention of delivering on the warm and fuzzy "conservative" promise they sell. That is a cynical and bald-faced lie intended to get the good working people of this country and the truly patriotic to sell their birthright for the enrichment of the GOP's benefactors.
Then along came W and his many colossal failures and blatant deception of the American public.
And a reasonable effort at learning something about the real history of our country and government and its progression and continual expansion. I dropped all but accidental viewing of tv news - especially the politically motivated and agenda-driven, and started reading, a lot of reading, from a lot of differing viewpoints.
That was the last straw for hoping or believing the "conservative" and "non-intrusive" governance lie.
So I support the 2nd, the 4th, individuals' rights and freedoms, and reason and logic over ideology or the need to "identify" with an ideology or group or party or anything else merely in order to "belong" or "feel good".
That line of thinking makes it very clear who the drones repeating the Ailes-inspired outrage of the day talking points are
My views are conservative and libertarian in some areas,a nd very liberal in others
Very generally, socially liberal, and libertarian to conservative in governance, with a huge dose of pragmatism and practicality.
My voting record is nearly entirely Republican. Primarily because like so many others, I sooo _wanted_ to believe their promises of fiscal responsibility and small uninteusive government. I wanted to believe that if they delivered in those areas then that maybe the influence of the religious right would not be too harmful to the peoples' rights and freedoms.
I was wrong, and they didn't just fail - they flat lied. They have no intention of delivering on the warm and fuzzy "conservative" promise they sell. That is a cynical and bald-faced lie intended to get the good working people of this country and the truly patriotic to sell their birthright for the enrichment of the GOP's benefactors.
Then along came W and his many colossal failures and blatant deception of the American public.
And a reasonable effort at learning something about the real history of our country and government and its progression and continual expansion. I dropped all but accidental viewing of tv news - especially the politically motivated and agenda-driven, and started reading, a lot of reading, from a lot of differing viewpoints.
That was the last straw for hoping or believing the "conservative" and "non-intrusive" governance lie.
So I support the 2nd, the 4th, individuals' rights and freedoms, and reason and logic over ideology or the need to "identify" with an ideology or group or party or anything else merely in order to "belong" or "feel good".
That line of thinking makes it very clear who the drones repeating the Ailes-inspired outrage of the day talking points are
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