LGA mechanics get jobs back

[Wretched Wrench]

Sleeping on the job is not all that unusual. I have seen management, all the way up to a regional manager asleep on the job. Even on day shift. One regional manager used to nap every day after his executive lunch. I have seen stews and pilots asleep on flights. Even one captain who left the cockpit to sleep in a seat reserved for him in First Class from Honolulu to Fiji on a 707. Every now and then we learn about a crew asleep and overshooting their destination, only to be awakened by Selcall. It happens more on freighters, as there are no stews to wake them up. Old timers will remember. And other departments, as well. I would venture to say that the naysayers have worked very little, if any, on graveyard. Everyone who has worked graveyard knows about it.

 

[Bob Owens]

Sleeping on the job is not all that unusual. I have seen management, all the way up to a regional manager asleep on the job. Even on day shift. One regional manager used to nap every day after his executive lunch. I have seen stews and pilots asleep on flights. Even one captain who left the cockpit to sleep in a seat reserved for him in First Class from Honolulu to Fiji on a 707. Every now and then we learn about a crew asleep and overshooting their destination, only to be awakened by Selcall. It happens more on freighters, as there are no stews to wake them up. Old timers will remember. And other departments, as well. I would venture to say that the naysayers have worked very little, if any, on graveyard. Everyone who has worked graveyard knows about it.

One of the things that people like Carmine Romano, who, according to the Local 562 President, refused to put a stop to this travesty, seem to forget, is what they did when they were on the floor at LGA and that some of the people who witnessed what they did are still working, and they remember. Now a few decades later they play this game, unjustly pull people out of service then in order to try and perpetuate that injustice try to force lower level managers to lie. If these managers tell the truth they are fired, if they lie they have to live with themselves and completely lose the respect of those they are supposed to manage. One has to wonder if sadism and sociopathy are required personality traits to advance to the upper echelons of AMR management.

 

[Ralph]

Sorry about the closing, guys. I was trying to watch the hurricane and the board at the same time. However, let's stick to the issues and the facts. Ruminations upon management state of mind or thinking process just take up space and waste bandwidth. Unless one of the involved manager's decides to write a book about it, we won't know what made them change their minds.

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

One of the B check mechanics was going to testify that on more than one occasion he would bed down with Carmine back in the day when he was a mechanic

 

[whatkindoffreshhell]

Why do you ask?

Answer the question. You presume to know the workload requirements of nurses and firemen -- I am curious as to your knowledge on the subject.

(remember they are union too)

C'mon Bob. Cough it up.

 

[TIME FOR CHANGE]

If it is that important, my friend at LGA ,night shift tech crew chief, was a Battalion chief in Manhattan. I can call him up for some specifics. Exactly what do you want to know.
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[TIME FOR CHANGE]

Another fine reason not to go into AA mgmt

On Friday September 12, 2008 general manager Evita Rodriguez fired manager Luis Gonzalez.

:down: :down:

 

[Hopeful]

Another fine reason not to go into AA mgmt

On Friday September 12, 2008 general manager Evita Rodriguez fired manager Luis Gonzalez.

:down: :down:

I understand he will be suing AA, and rightfully so.
I could picture it now, union people testifying against AA management on behalf of a manager.

Again, no one is saying sleeping is ok, but the travesty here is that AA management, especially at the local level, has allowed sleeping for the past forty years.
I can't wait until all these players have to swear on a bible and say they didn't know sleeping was going on.

 

[Bob Owens]

Answer the question. \

? Who do you think you are? Perry Mason?

You presume to know the workload requirements of nures and firemen -- I am curious as to your knowledge on the subject.

Seems like you presume as to what others presume.

(remember they are union too)

I think Ive made it clear that sleeping on nights is not a union issue. See my New York Air comment.

C'mon Bob. Cough it up.

Sure as soon as you answer my question.

 

[whatkindoffreshhell]

? Who do you think you are? Perry Mason?

Seems like you presume as to what others presume.

I think Ive made it clear that sleeping on nights is not a union issue. See my New York Air comment.

Sure as soon as you answer my question.

Again, I asked the question first Bob -- please tell me your qualifications for judging the workloads of nurses & firemen?

You are comparing them to airline mechanics earlier in this thread. I am curious to know your experience.

I answered your question. Now answer mine. And please do not make this personal.

 

[Ralph]

This thread has drifted off topic. The mechanics got their jobs back. If there are lawsuits filed (not talked about or supposed about--filed) or new facts come to light, a new topic can be started. This thread is closed.