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http://www.9news.com/rss/story.aspx?storyid=244005

Angeline O'Grady's husband died last October after a brief bout with cancer. She wanted to take his remains back to England where she could scatter his ashes.

 

[Dont call me Shirley]

"TSA agents told her the urn would have to go to into her checked luggage. When she landed and opened her bag, the urn was gone."


What the f*^#; what reason would TSA have for making her check it? It's not like it is a cupcake, for crying out loud.

 

[Al Legheny]

However I lost a relative a few years back and cremation was the requested method of disposal of remains. When we were going thru the process and paperwork we were asked it we wanted a sealed container or non-sealed. The non sealed type are often used for those who want to be able to spread the ashes in a place that meets the request of the deceased. The sealed units are often used for those who want to keep the remains in a moseloum or other arrangement.

I think the TSA might be very wary of a sealed aluminum or metal container that is welded shut. It there was no supporting documentation thay might pull an item like that out of scanned and checked bagage. If the urn was metal, and the ones for permanent storage of remains often are, then they might have pulled it.

I am just gussing here. We had an openable container and did not put it on an airplane.

 

[SparrowHawk]

Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. - Ben Franklin

This is what happens when you elect people with no respect for Individual Liberty. The incompetence of the TSA makes us less safe and less free.

 

[ChockJockey]

This is what happens when you elect people with no respect for Individual Liberty. The incompetence of the TSA makes us less safe and less free.

I know, look at all the terror attacks the TSA has allowed to happen to air travel since 9/11. If the TSA were any less competent they'd be deployed to Afghanistan. 🙄

Why would even care about anything like this while Scott Kirby remains free to terrorize the skies? I really have to question your commitment to justice...

I think you should with haste contact your representatives about this. The right to retaining a dead relative as a carry-on item is one hallowed and sacred through the centuries in our civilization. I think I smell the 28th Amendment... :wacko:

Anyways, the TSA didn't lose the urn, US did, nobody seems to be able to find it, and nobody knows how hard anybody is really trying, and I think that sucks. This is almost as bad as the time PHL cargo (which is outsourced) sent that dead body to a pet store... 🙁

 

[Dog Wonder]

Anyways, the TSA didn't lose the urn, US did, nobody seems to be able to find it, and nobody knows how hard anybody is really trying, and I think that sucks. This is almost as bad as the time PHL cargo (which is outsourced) sent that dead body to a pet store...

I thought it was a flower shop.

That vendor has been replaced.

 

[SparrowHawk]

I know, look at all the terror attacks the TSA has allowed to happen to air travel since 9/11. If the TSA were any less competent they'd be deployed to Afghanistan. 🙄

Why would even care about anything like this while Scott Kirby remains free to terrorize the skies? I really have to question your commitment to justice...

I think you should with haste contact your representatives about this. The right to retaining a dead relative as a carry-on item is one hallowed and sacred through the centuries in our civilization. I think I smell the 28th Amendment... :wacko:

Anyways, the TSA didn't lose the urn, US did, nobody seems to be able to find it, and nobody knows how hard anybody is really trying, and I think that sucks. This is almost as bad as the time PHL cargo (which is outsourced) sent that dead body to a pet store... 🙁

To Date, the TSA has not caught ONE terrorist at an airport security checkpoint. Since its inception it has searched millions of people, trampling their civil liberties in the process.

Further you have no proof who has said urn, who lost it or where it is. Airlines and the TSA spend millions pointing fingers at each other failing to respond to consumers and passing the buck. The number of unrexolved claims where one party blames the other now number in the thousands.

The TSA is a scar upon not only the land but to Liberty itself.

While the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) may have successfully sold the molestation of airline passengers as a “necessary inconvenience” on the road to national security, it is not so easy to explain away theft. Thus far, 200 current TSA officers have been formally accused of stealing from passengers’ luggage. Over 500 TSA officers have been fired or suspended for theft since the agency was established in 2001.

“We’re not saying that the thefts are acceptable,” said Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. “They’re not. But in the grand scheme of things, the risk of losing something from your luggage must be weighed against the need to provide a safer travel environment. We should consider the thefts collateral damage.”

The opportunity for Americans to experience collateral damage will be expanding. Napolitano announced that up to 8,000 surprise raids by TSA agents will be taking place at a variety of locations over the next year. Working in cooperation with immigration and drug-enforcement personnel, the TSA will be conducting SWAT operations to thwart terrorists and smugglers.

A prime objective of the planned raids, according to the Secretary, will be “to seize the large sums of cash used by these public enemies. There is no good reason for law-abiding citizens to carry around large sums of cash. Possession of such sums is, by itself, prima facie evidence of illegal intent. Confiscation of this money will both hinder criminal activities and help fund future operations of the TSA.”

Note the bolded quote from the head thug at DHS above. Bin Laden may be fish food but to date he has won.

 

[ChockJockey]

To Date, the TSA has not caught ONE terrorist at an airport security checkpoint. Since its inception it has searched millions of people, trampling their civil liberties in the process.

Further you have no proof who has said urn, who lost it or where it is. Airlines and the TSA spend millions pointing fingers at each other failing to respond to consumers and passing the buck. The number of unrexolved claims where one party blames the other now number in the thousands.

The TSA is a scar upon not only the land but to Liberty itself.



Note the bolded quote from the head thug at DHS above. Bin Laden may be fish food but to date he has won.

So let me get this straight. The mere fact that the acronym "TSA" appears in a post is all it takes to set you off about it, regardless of what the story is?

 

[FWAAA]

Anyways, the TSA didn't lose the urn, US did, nobody seems to be able to find it, and nobody knows how hard anybody is really trying, and I think that sucks. This is almost as bad as the time PHL cargo (which is outsourced) sent that dead body to a pet store... 🙁

I'm not sure how you reached the conclusion above (bolded portion). The TSA has been known to search checked bags and then fail to replace items following the search. There have been news reports of travelers who have had someone else's items placed in their checked bag, along with the "we searched your bag" note from the TSA. I'm not saying that the TSA lost the urn, only that we have no evidence from the linked story to exclude the TSA from blame. Could have been a screener's mistake or it could have been US. We'll probably never know.

 

[SparrowHawk]

So let me get this straight. The mere fact that the acronym "TSA" appears in a post is all it takes to set you off about it, regardless of what the story is?

Rge TSA is a SCAR upon Liberty and on the United States and is absolutely useless. Face it, Bin Laden won. 11 year after 9/11 and we're still afraid of the Bogeyman.

We're less free and less safe which were his goals. Doesn't matter the specific incident as in a free society an abomination like TSA shouldn't even exist.

 

[N965VJ]

I know, look at all the terror attacks the TSA has allowed to happen to air travel since 9/11.

In August 2002 a firearm slipped through the checkpoint and on to an aircraft in ATL. The screener that allowed this to happen was fired.

Last week a firearm slipped through the checkpoint and on to an aircraft in DFW. The TSA stated "No review of procedures was needed and that standard operating procedures were followed."

We've "Federalized", so I guess we have to wait another ten years for the "Professionalize" part to kick in.

 

[exramper]

As someone who was thrown out to the street Jan 9 by a subcontract group I can only say you get what you pay for. Just found out today Doug made 14 million with stocks and bonuses last year...maybe he can hire CSI to find the ladies husband

 

[UPNAWAY]

The item was not lost but stolen and most likely by TSA agents. I have never had anything removed from my bags in 20+ years of travel before the TSA. I now have neat or unique (not expensive) items stolen on a semi regular basis since the advent of the TSA.

It makes since, going through a bag is time consuming, seeing neat stuff to pilfer off a video screen is much easier.

 

[Dog Wonder]

The item was not lost but stolen and most likely by TSA agents.

Sure, the TSA stole it.


'Look Maw, what I got you for Christmas. Its Mr O'Grady's ashes. Just what you always wanted.'

 

[N965VJ]

Maybe the screener thought they found a Pimp Cup. :blink: